Phentermine Doesn't Work

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choppie70

crabulous1 wrote: »

choppie70 wrote: »

If you are not weighing your food how are you sure you are eating under 1,350 calories a day? You cannot rely on package labeling as they are allowed a standard of error, so that package of whatever that says 210 calories may be 250 or so calories. Also, just measuring your food with measuring cups has a pretty big standard of error as well. If you are not weighing and accounting for every gram of food you eat there is really no way to really know you are eating under 1,350 calories a day.

My sister is an Endocrinologists nightmare. She has premature ovarian failure (think menopause at 23!), she has a thyroid issue and she also has pre diabetes. She has lost weight and has kept it off with no problems by simply lowering her carbs and weighing her food so she stays near 1200 calories a day. She is able to lose the weight also, because (I am sorry if this is blunt, no disrespect intended) she does not use her diagnosis as an excuse , she uses it as a motivator.

As I replied to the other commenter, I did keep a food log for many months for my nutritionist, and I was overestimating my calories at the time. It's possible I underestimate them now- but some days I don't count any calories- that's not a crime, I don't need to know how many calories are in a lettuce wrap or a banana or a bowl of green beans to know it's healthier than what I would have otherwise had. 1350 is the number of calories I need to maintain. To lose weight, she suggested I go for 1000 calories. But, that is off-topic.

I've not used my diagnosis as an excuse, I'm not sure why that's even been brought up (off-topic, again), as this thread was about Phentermine. Do you have any input about the original post?

I don't think my reply was off topic. Obviously your medical history has a role in your weight loss. I was giving an anecdotal experience to illustrate a point. I do not know why people get testy when someone either doesn't say what they want them to or add anecdotes, that is the way conversation works. Also, weight loss is about a calorie deficit, some people need help of a drug supplement to help them maintain that deficit, me asking about weighing your food was indeed related as if the pill was not working, you may not have been at a calorie deficit. The pill does nothing to make you lose weight, the pill is supposed to help you not feel hungry so you can eat at a deficit.

To answer your original question, yes, I did try Phentermine and it did not work for me, it made me more hungry and more aware of my hunger so I actually gained a few pounds while I was trying it. I was not eating at a calorie deficit , hence no weight loss.

And, your reply does not answer my question about weighing your food. I have kept food logs, where I wrote down what I ate, but as I said, I was eating more calories than I thought because I was using measuring cups not weighing my food.

You seemed frustrated that you were not losing weight and posted on a weight loss board. I offered some suggestions, and again I apologize if I did not say what you wanted me to say.

To reiterate my answer to the original post - YES, I have tried Phentermine and NO it did not work for me.

Mary_Anastasia

choppie70 wrote: »

crabulous1 wrote: »

choppie70 wrote: »

If you are not weighing your food how are you sure you are eating under 1,350 calories a day? You cannot rely on package labeling as they are allowed a standard of error, so that package of whatever that says 210 calories may be 250 or so calories. Also, just measuring your food with measuring cups has a pretty big standard of error as well. If you are not weighing and accounting for every gram of food you eat there is really no way to really know you are eating under 1,350 calories a day.

My sister is an Endocrinologists nightmare. She has premature ovarian failure (think menopause at 23!), she has a thyroid issue and she also has pre diabetes. She has lost weight and has kept it off with no problems by simply lowering her carbs and weighing her food so she stays near 1200 calories a day. She is able to lose the weight also, because (I am sorry if this is blunt, no disrespect intended) she does not use her diagnosis as an excuse , she uses it as a motivator.

As I replied to the other commenter, I did keep a food log for many months for my nutritionist, and I was overestimating my calories at the time. It's possible I underestimate them now- but some days I don't count any calories- that's not a crime, I don't need to know how many calories are in a lettuce wrap or a banana or a bowl of green beans to know it's healthier than what I would have otherwise had. 1350 is the number of calories I need to maintain. To lose weight, she suggested I go for 1000 calories. But, that is off-topic.

I've not used my diagnosis as an excuse, I'm not sure why that's even been brought up (off-topic, again), as this thread was about Phentermine. Do you have any input about the original post?

I don't think my reply was off topic. Obviously your medical history has a role in your weight loss. I was giving an anecdotal experience to illustrate a point. I do not know why people get testy when someone either doesn't say what they want them to or add anecdotes, that is the way conversation works. Also, weight loss is about a calorie deficit, some people need help of a drug supplement to help them maintain that deficit, me asking about weighing your food was indeed related as if the pill was not working, you may not have been at a calorie deficit. The pill does nothing to make you lose weight, the pill is supposed to help you not feel hungry so you can eat at a deficit.

To answer your original question, yes, I did try Phentermine and it did not work for me, it made me more hungry and more aware of my hunger so I actually gained a few pounds while I was trying it. I was not eating at a calorie deficit , hence no weight loss.

And, your reply does not answer my question about weighing your food. I have kept food logs, where I wrote down what I ate, but as I said, I was eating more calories than I thought because I was using measuring cups not weighing my food.

You seemed frustrated that you were not losing weight and posted on a weight loss board. I offered some suggestions, and again I apologize if I did not say what you wanted me to say.

To reiterate my answer to the original post - YES, I have tried Phentermine and NO it did not work for me.

Sorry if I got testy-- the other poster has been, IMO, trolling this thread and as soon as I finished answering her questions got yours (same/similar) right after.

I wasn't frustrated that I wasn't losing weight, I was just wondering why an amphetamine would have no affect, to where it even helps me to sleep. I've never tried a Rx weight loss drug before and the negative side effects were SUPER hyped up to me, so I'm really just confused as to why nothing happened at all. I didn't gain or lose on it, just-- no effect whatsoever, not even dry mouth o_o I couldn't find anybody else this happened to. I wasn't using a scale at the time, but I have used one in the past.

choppie70

I do have one other thought... I have AD/HD and a stimulant actually calms me down, is there any chance you could have undiagnosed AD/HD or ADD? I can have 2 cups of coffee right before bed and fall right to sleep. My Dr. actually told me to drink some before bed if I am having trouble sleeping.

RMCottonRPh

I'm a pharmacist, and I must iterate that there is virtually NO good reason to use this drug. Lose the weight on your own. Studies have shown 5-8 lb greater weight loss than placebo over 6 months. That is only about a 1 lb advantage per month that you could get just by cutting out a soda per day. For slightly more than 1 extra pound per month, you are risking a lot. This drug can be addictive and can cause psychological and cardiac side effects. To truly make lasting change, you have to do the work.

Mary_Anastasia

choppie70 wrote: »

I do have one other thought... I have AD/HD and a stimulant actually calms me down, is there any chance you could have undiagnosed AD/HD or ADD? I can have 2 cups of coffee right before bed and fall right to sleep. My Dr. actually told me to drink some before bed if I am having trouble sleeping.

I've never been checked into for any kind of thing like that, but caffeine never has kept me up at night. I too can fall right asleep also with a coffee or diet coke interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Mary_Anastasia

RMCottonRPh wrote: »

I'm a pharmacist, and I must iterate that there is virtually NO good reason to use this drug. Lose the weight on your own. Studies have shown 5-8 lb greater weight loss than placebo over 6 months. That is only about a 1 lb advantage per month that you could get just by cutting out a soda per day. For slightly more than 1 extra pound per month, you are risking a lot. This drug can be addictive and can cause psychological and cardiac side effects. To truly make lasting change, you have to do the work.

Thanks. That's one of the things I was worried about, everyone hyped up the negative side effects to me, but the entire time I was on it I felt fine, just reeaaallly tired, moreso than usual. I've lost weight before, 55 lbs in four months with diet and exercise (and my thyroid medication), but the same regimen didn't work when I tried again

ericGold15

crabulous1 wrote: »

ericGold15 wrote: »

Hypothyroidism would blunt the clinical effects of any sympathomimetic drug.
In the case of a person with Grave's disease the first order of business should be to take enough exogenous thyroid to be clinically euthyroid.

I do have hypothyroidism from my Hashimoto's - it's untreated because medication made my symptoms worse (I've been prescribed 4 different treatments, synthetic and natural, all made me way worse)- and I keep healthy enough to keep my antibodies low. This is another reason my GP doesn't want to deal with me and my "too weird" endocrine system I wouldn't think that would completely null the effect of an amphetamine though. So are you saying if I found a thyroid medication that actually worked, it would help Phentermine work in tandem?

Embarrassing -- I wrote Grave's but I meant Hashimoto.

To answer your question, I think all the amphetamine like diet pills are an awful idea, so I will leave my earlier comment unadorned. I do however strongly endorse your thought to treat significant hypothyroidism.