Fruits?? HELP!!
RoseBlossom29
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Is it okay not to log fruits on to my food diary on MFP
Do the calories in fruit count?( i'm talking oranges, apples, bananas etc here)
Will eating fruits decrease my weight loss because they are making me go over my calories limits??
Do the calories in fruit count?( i'm talking oranges, apples, bananas etc here)
Will eating fruits decrease my weight loss because they are making me go over my calories limits??
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Of course they count, unless you know a 0 calorie fruit I'm not aware of.0
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No it s not ok
you ate them
they are calories0 -
Why would fruit calories not count?0
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Log them for sure - they're still calorific. But ignore the fact that they'll take you over your sugar level... it's a different kind of sugar to the white stuff people are heaping into their teas and desserts
I eat 2 - 4 portions of fruit a day... I log them and end up 2 times (or more) over my sugar level... but I've not gained a pound yet so I figure it must be okay
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Plus, they are full of sugar! I love fruit and need to cut back because of their sugar content.0
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Log them for their calories, they sure DO count. Ignore them for your sugars unless you are diabetic.0
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unless you have a medical condition the sugar in fruit is fine. It's processed sugar you need to avoidPlus, they are full of sugar! I love fruit and need to cut back because of their sugar content.
Anything that has calories log its as simple as that. Calories counting will only work if you count all the calories0 -
Every calorie counts. Your body will keep an accurate record of each even if you don't. And then you'll wonder why you're not losing. If you eat it, log it.
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Anything with calories counts towards your calorie goal. Unless you have a diagnosed medical need to track your sugar intake, don't worry about tracking the sugar content of fruit. They are ridiculously good sources of macro and micronutrients. Eat them, but like everything else, watch your total calorie intake, and your rate of loss should be fine.0
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http://www.livestrong.com/article/369750-fruit-sugar-weight-loss/
At least three of the references are peer reviewed journals.0 -
Do the calories in fruit count?
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Fruits are food. Food goes in your food diary. Period.
Like everyone else said, the sugars in fruits are not the processed sugar that is in candy and cookies so it's not something to be avoided. Also, fruits contain a variety of vitamins so they are a wonderful addition to a day's intake. And they also contain a good bit of fiber... fiber that is necessary for proper digestion. Good stuff, fruit. Eat it, log it, know you're doing something good for your body.0 -
Yep. Calories count if you're counting calories.
ETA: Even if you're not counting, they still count. It's really not debatable.0 -
To those confused by the question, I believe it is because Weight Watchers allows unlimited fruit and veggies. (That's what I hear anyways...)0
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Thanks. that really helped (:0
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Don't mix and match programs -- WW makes up for not tracking fruits in other places.0
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http://www.livestrong.com/article/369750-fruit-sugar-weight-loss/
At least three of the references are peer reviewed journals.
Reference 1: Fitness website.
Reference 2: Doctor's website.
Reference 3: Has nothing to do with diet, deals solely with the chemical differences. Also not a peer-reviewed publication.
Reference 4: Is a study on the progression of chronic kidney disease on a diet of 60% fructose. So yeah, it might be a good idea not to eat 60% fructose.
Reference 5: Also not a peer-reviewed paper. It's a press release that doesn't give links to the original studies, but what it was studying was rats given water sweetened with HFCS or sucrose.
Please note that neither of the two that ARE papers showed issues with eating fruit. They showed issues specifically with a high-fructose diet (good luck hitting 60% fructose unless you live solely on soda) where the fructose was given in liquid form. The amount of fruit needed to hit the quantities of fructose those poor rats got would be unreal.0 -
i've not read all replies so sorry if i repeat.
DO TAKE NOTE OF THE SUGARS!!! fructose is the sugar naturally found in fruit, which is great, however, it is still a sugar and should be treated with respect.
eat a hole punnet of grapes for instance thats around 1500 calories, mostly from sugar. you should have 6 grapes maximum.
everything has a portion, it's worth knowing what that portion is so that you don't overeat. Fruits should be eaten in as many varieties as possible but small portions of each, so child or snack sized bananas (as they're being marketed as now) are great.
Don't stop eating them, just don't overeat them thinking they're not going to affect your calorie count as much as a small slice of cake.
it's worth looking online for the nutritional data on your favourite fruits and veg and working them into your diet in proper portions (and by diet i mean what you eat on a daily basis for the rest of your life, not the once i've lost the weight i'll start eating junk again variation of the term).
you should up your veg content rather than your fruit content, keep fruit to one or two portions a day and research the veg you eat and find out if there are better alternatives, i.e. celeriac, squash or swede instead of potatoes (potatoes aren't the nutritionally dense and not that tasty unless roasted, or cauliflower instead of rice, courgette instead of pasta. There's loads you can substitute that you will barely notice the difference in prep, cooking, taste and texture.
the good thing about being on a diet, is researching all the different foods and checking out different ways of eating, vegetarian, low carb, diabetic diets for new ideas on old favourites. most don't take any more time to prep and taste just as good and are better for you 9 times out of 10.0 -
i've not read all replies so sorry if i repeat.
DO TAKE NOTE OF THE SUGARS!!! fructose is the sugar naturally found in fruit, which is great, however, it is still a sugar and should be treated with respect.
eat a hole punnet of grapes for instance thats around 1500 calories, mostly from sugar. you should have 6 grapes maximum.
Unless you have a medical reason to do so, sugar doesn't really matter in terms of weight loss. There are some people that have a medical reason to keep their sugars at a certain amount... everyone else doesn't need to freak out for being over.
I don't understand why one should only have 6 grapes max. Provided you are under your TDEE, eat as much fruit as you want (of course assuming you are also getting other required nutrients).
OP, count fruit. Anything that has calories should be counted. Fruit can make you fat if you eat 3000 calories of it a day when your TDEE is only 2000 for example. Fruit is incredibly healthy and should be consumed... it should also be counted in your calories. I regularly consume around 600 calories worth of fruit a day... that would stop me from losing if I didn't account for it.0 -
eat a hole punnet of grapes for instance thats around 1500 calories, mostly from sugar. you should have 6 grapes maximum.
Wut?
I think there are more grapes than that in a once ounce serving of grape jelly, and way more than that in my glass of wine.
OP, fruit is good for you. Make it fit into your daily goals. Log it and move on. The sugar in fruit is not bad for you if you are a normal healthy person. Eating the whole fruit is best, not juices (which are concentrates and don't give you the added benefit of the fiber in whole fruit.)
Unless wine.
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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/01/02/highfructose-corn-syrup-alters-human-metabolism.aspx
it's a sugar, it's converted into glucose like any other simple sugar and what you don't use is stored.
Fruit jelly (or jam as us brits call it) is the fruit, with all it's sugar, with ADDED fructose.
6 grapes is a sensible portion of grapes, like a whole apple is a portion. If you don't believe me about the calorie content of a punnet of grapes look it up.
As i said, fruit is good for you in proper portion control, simple sugars are absorbed quickly by your body and if not used by your body as energy are stored for later. So Sugar in any form, should be kept to a good healthy amount while trying to lose weight, don't cut fruit out, just be smart about your portions, and try and eat a wide variety of fruit over the week so you can get as many good nutrients from them as possible.0 -
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/01/02/highfructose-corn-syrup-alters-human-metabolism.aspx
it's a sugar, it's converted into glucose like any other simple sugar and what you don't use is stored.
Fruit jelly (or jam as us brits call it) is the fruit, with all it's sugar, with ADDED fructose.
6 grapes is a sensible portion of grapes, like a whole apple is a portion. If you don't believe me about the calorie content of a punnet of grapes look it up.
As i said, fruit is good for you in proper portion control, simple sugars are absorbed quickly by your body and if not used by your body as energy are stored for later. So Sugar in any form, should be kept to a good healthy amount while trying to lose weight, don't cut fruit out, just be smart about your portions, and try and eat a wide variety of fruit over the week so you can get as many good nutrients from them as possible.
Oh, mercola. Well that explains your panic :laugh:
You want to talk about HFCS? Start your own thread for that - we were talking about fruit.
You go on then with your six grapes. I'd rather just count them and track them.
You'll find mercola doesn't carry much weight around here - or anywhere that people are capable of rational thought.
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I'm struggling with my glucose levels. I don't eat processed sugars but as soon as I have fruit, I'm way over my allowance for the day -- not to mention the sugars in milk, bread, cereal, etc. I look for whole grain, low sugar cereals but overall how do I keep my sugar levels within the boundaries given? 6oz. of oj has 30g of sugar!!!
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MFP's levels are wonky -- if you need to watch sugars (I'm guessing you may, since you referred to glucose levels), ask your doctor for a recommendation.
ETA: That being said, you'd be better off eating an orange than the oj.0 -
http://www.livestrong.com/article/369750-fruit-sugar-weight-loss/
At least three of the references are peer reviewed journals.
high fructose corn syrup =/= fruit.0 -
To OP. Fruit contains calories. Every calorie counts. You should log them all.0
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^This. Particularly since they're making a mint off of their 'health website'. A quick wiki search even mentions this place is full of "pseudoscience based on conspiracy theories". All this and more from Wikipedia:http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/01/02/highfructose-corn-syrup-alters-human-metabolism.aspx
it's a sugar, it's converted into glucose like any other simple sugar and what you don't use is stored.
Fruit jelly (or jam as us brits call it) is the fruit, with all it's sugar, with ADDED fructose.
6 grapes is a sensible portion of grapes, like a whole apple is a portion. If you don't believe me about the calorie content of a punnet of grapes look it up.
As i said, fruit is good for you in proper portion control, simple sugars are absorbed quickly by your body and if not used by your body as energy are stored for later. So Sugar in any form, should be kept to a good healthy amount while trying to lose weight, don't cut fruit out, just be smart about your portions, and try and eat a wide variety of fruit over the week so you can get as many good nutrients from them as possible.
Oh, mercola. Well that explains your panic :laugh:
You want to talk about HFCS? Start your own thread for that - we were talking about fruit.
You go on then with your six grapes. I'd rather just count them and track them.
You'll find mercola doesn't carry much weight around here - or anywhere that people are capable of rational thought.
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"Phyllis Entis, a microbiologist and food safety expert, highlighted Mercola.com as an example of websites "likely to mislead consumers by offering one-sided, incomplete, inaccurate, or misleading information."" - Entis, P (2007). Food safety: old habits, new perspectives. Wiley-Blackwell. pp. 300. ISBN 1-55581-417-4.
"The Better Business Bureau, responding to complaints including allegations that Mercola did not honor an advertised money-back guarantee, gave the website a grade of 'F'." - http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/February-2012/Dr-Joseph-Mercola-Visionary-or-Quack/index.php
Mercola has also received three warning letters from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for violations of U.S. marketing laws:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/EnforcementActivitiesbyFDA/CyberLetters/ucm059189.pdf
making false and misleading claims regarding the marketing of several natural supplemental products, which violated the Federal Food Drug and Cosmetic Act
http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html
http://www.casewatch.org/fdawarning/prod/2011/mercola.shtml
Mr Mercola also thinks HIV isn't the cause of aids, aids is caused by stress...I don't think I need to go on.0 -
MFP's levels are wonky -- if you need to watch sugars (I'm guessing you may, since you referred to glucose levels), ask your doctor for a recommendation.
ETA: That being said, you'd be better off eating an orange than the oj.
Agreed. Check with your doctor if you need to monitor sugar levels and go by what he/she says on it, not necesarily MFP standards. Track the fruit you eat, but realize that the sugar in fruit is far different from the other sugars in other foods. Still important, but not as bad as eating candy bars, ya know? 0 -
And MercoLOLa =/= science.high fructose corn syrup =/= fruit.0
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