Why Are Thin People Not Fat? BBC documentary
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I watched this last night and found it interesting. Instead of trying to make fat people thin, they worked to make naturally thin people fat, or at least a bit fatter in a 4 week period where the subjects had to double their normal caloric intake while limiting their activity levels to under 5000 steps.
Most were able to do it (eat their calories), most resorted to eating sugary (chocolate) foods because it was easier to overeat on those foods, and many used calorie laden drinks.
The largest gain was about 6kg and the smallest was under 2kg. Some gained lots of fat, one gained a few pounds of muscle, and some gained smaller amounts of fat. Some had their body shape change drastically, and others did not change noticeably. Some had their BMR increase, and others did not.
It's a few years old but here it is for anyone interested
https://youtu.be/dAQr77QMJiw
Most were able to do it (eat their calories), most resorted to eating sugary (chocolate) foods because it was easier to overeat on those foods, and many used calorie laden drinks.
The largest gain was about 6kg and the smallest was under 2kg. Some gained lots of fat, one gained a few pounds of muscle, and some gained smaller amounts of fat. Some had their body shape change drastically, and others did not change noticeably. Some had their BMR increase, and others did not.
It's a few years old but here it is for anyone interested
https://youtu.be/dAQr77QMJiw 0
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This is a really good watch. But only on a day your tummy is full and you aren't questioning yourself even a little bit about your decision to lose weight or maintain a lower body weight than your body wants to maintain.
Otherwise, talk about triggering! I watched this a year or so back, promptly went to the grocery store, passed out late that night with a cookie in one hand and the melted remains of 1/2 gallon of ice cream in the other, and woke up next day covered in regret.
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I don't have time to watch this documentary, but I know thsee two things:
1. It's nothing new that those thin people will gain weight because they ate at a calorie surplus.
2. You don't gain muscle just from overeating, and if you did it would be smalk eniugh that it would go unnoticed.
I'm interested in seeing other replies.
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.This is a really good watch. But only on a day your tummy is full and you aren't questioning yourself even a little bit about your decision to lose weight or maintain a lower body weight than your body wants to maintain.
Otherwise, talk about triggering! I watched this a year or so back, promptly went to the grocery store, passed out late that night with a cookie in one hand and the melted remains of 1/2 gallon of ice cream in the other, and woke up next day covered in regret.
LOL True. One "expert" does actually say that losing weight requires constant hunger, and so does mainatining at a lower weight, so if one wants that they must be prepared for constant hunger for life. LOL He also said just losing 10% of your body weight is helpful and implied that fat people can be satisfied with that.... I took those parts with a grain of salt since I have found it to be wrong in my case1. It's nothing new that those thin people will gain weight because they ate at a calorie surplus.
2. You don't gain muscle just from overeating, and if you did it would be smalk eniugh that it would go unnoticed.
I'm interested in seeing other replies.
The muscle gains appeared to have happend though. It wasn't a great deal, just a few pounds, but it appears to have happened. His BMR increased too.0 -
LOL True. One "expert" does actually say that losing weight requires constant hunger, and so does mainatining at a lower weight, so if one wants that they must be prepared for constant hunger for life. LOL He also said just losing 10% of your body weight is helpful and implied that fat people can be satisfied with that.... I took those parts with a grain of salt since I have found it to be wrong in my case.
I wouldn't bother with 10%, the 'experts' can label that a success all they want, I don't care. If I hadn't learned about low carb, I'd also have given up long ago. Being hungry all the time isn't worth being thin, or even not-obese. Life isn't even worth living that way, imo, and I'd rather be fat, happy, and die early.
Except of course I wasn't happy. But neither am I happy always hungry.0 -
Actually, #2 can and does happen. It isn't a large amount, but just going up in weight will eventually cause lean body mass gain. I don't think it happened to such an extant that someone would normally gained a pound in 4 weeks without some kind of resistance training though. Most like the muscle gain is measured wrong, the person did some kind of increase in activity (probably resistance), or they were severely underweight to begin with.I don't have time to watch this documentary, but I know thsee two things:
1. It's nothing new that those thin people will gain weight because they ate at a calorie surplus.
2. You don't gain muscle just from overeating, and if you did it would be smalk eniugh that it would go unnoticed.
I'm interested in seeing other replies.0 -
.This is a really good watch. But only on a day your tummy is full and you aren't questioning yourself even a little bit about your decision to lose weight or maintain a lower body weight than your body wants to maintain.
Otherwise, talk about triggering! I watched this a year or so back, promptly went to the grocery store, passed out late that night with a cookie in one hand and the melted remains of 1/2 gallon of ice cream in the other, and woke up next day covered in regret.
LOL True. One "expert" does actually say that losing weight requires constant hunger, and so does mainatining at a lower weight, so if one wants that they must be prepared for constant hunger for life. LOL He also said just losing 10% of your body weight is helpful and implied that fat people can be satisfied with that.... I took those parts with a grain of salt since I have found it to be wrong in my case1. It's nothing new that those thin people will gain weight because they ate at a calorie surplus.
2. You don't gain muscle just from overeating, and if you did it would be smalk eniugh that it would go unnoticed.
I'm interested in seeing other replies.
The muscle gains appeared to have happend though. It wasn't a great deal, just a few pounds, but it appears to have happened.
To be honest, part of me wonders if he sneaked off and worked out for hours every night in his room or something, though.
Or in someone's room. He was a little cutie as I recall. No cougar! Way too young for me.0 -
LOL True. One "expert" does actually say that losing weight requires constant hunger, and so does mainatining at a lower weight, so if one wants that they must be prepared for constant hunger for life. LOL He also said just losing 10% of your body weight is helpful and implied that fat people can be satisfied with that.... I took those parts with a grain of salt since I have found it to be wrong in my case.
I wouldn't bother with 10%, the 'experts' can label that a success all they want, I don't care. If I hadn't learned about low carb, I'd also have given up long ago. Being hungry all the time isn't worth being thin, or even not-obese. Life isn't even worth living that way, imo, and I'd rather be fat, happy, and die early.
Except of course I wasn't happy. But neither am I happy always hungry.
Low carb is the only way I have been able to lose for more than a few weeks too. 10% wasn't good enugh for me either but I couldn't do it without the appetite suppression of a LCHF diet. But that's just my experience.0 -
LOL True. One "expert" does actually say that losing weight requires constant hunger, and so does mainatining at a lower weight, so if one wants that they must be prepared for constant hunger for life. LOL He also said just losing 10% of your body weight is helpful and implied that fat people can be satisfied with that.... I took those parts with a grain of salt since I have found it to be wrong in my case.
I wouldn't bother with 10%, the 'experts' can label that a success all they want, I don't care. If I hadn't learned about low carb, I'd also have given up long ago. Being hungry all the time isn't worth being thin, or even not-obese. Life isn't even worth living that way, imo, and I'd rather be fat, happy, and die early.
Except of course I wasn't happy. But neither am I happy always hungry.
Low carb is the only way I have been able to lose for more than a few weeks too. 10% wasn't good enugh for me either but I couldn't do it without the appetite suppression of a LCHF diet. But that's just my experience.
Yep, I do envy the people who don't have to limit their food choices as much as I do, but we all must do what works best for us.0 -
.This is a really good watch. But only on a day your tummy is full and you aren't questioning yourself even a little bit about your decision to lose weight or maintain a lower body weight than your body wants to maintain.
Otherwise, talk about triggering! I watched this a year or so back, promptly went to the grocery store, passed out late that night with a cookie in one hand and the melted remains of 1/2 gallon of ice cream in the other, and woke up next day covered in regret.
LOL True. One "expert" does actually say that losing weight requires constant hunger, and so does mainatining at a lower weight, so if one wants that they must be prepared for constant hunger for life. LOL He also said just losing 10% of your body weight is helpful and implied that fat people can be satisfied with that.... I took those parts with a grain of salt since I have found it to be wrong in my case1. It's nothing new that those thin people will gain weight because they ate at a calorie surplus.
2. You don't gain muscle just from overeating, and if you did it would be smalk eniugh that it would go unnoticed.
I'm interested in seeing other replies.
The muscle gains appeared to have happend though. It wasn't a great deal, just a few pounds, but it appears to have happened.
To be honest, part of me wonders if he sneaked off and worked out for hours every night in his room or something, though.
Or in someone's room. He was a little cutie as I recall. No cougar! Way too young for me.
I wondered that too. It's possible0 -
Actually, #2 can and does happen. It isn't a large amount, but just going up in weight will eventually cause lean body mass gain. I don't think it happened to such an extant that someone would normally gained a pound in 4 weeks without some kind of resistance training though. Most like the muscle gain is measured wrong, the person did some kind of increase in activity (probably resistance), or they were severely underweight to begin with.I don't have time to watch this documentary, but I know thsee two things:
1. It's nothing new that those thin people will gain weight because they ate at a calorie surplus.
2. You don't gain muscle just from overeating, and if you did it would be smalk eniugh that it would go unnoticed.
I'm interested in seeing other replies.
Thank you, something new learned today.0 -
I wouldn't bother with 10%, the 'experts' can label that a success all they want, I don't care.
Especially since losing 10% you are still obese (or in my case I would still be anyway). THEN they say you should lose 10% and then you should lose 10%... Come on. Might as well gain and THEN lose and I can always claim that I've lost 10% from my highest.
I can bear being a little bit hungry actually, just as I like the slight soreness (not pain) you feel after a good workout
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.This is a really good watch. But only on a day your tummy is full and you aren't questioning yourself even a little bit about your decision to lose weight or maintain a lower body weight than your body wants to maintain.
Otherwise, talk about triggering! I watched this a year or so back, promptly went to the grocery store, passed out late that night with a cookie in one hand and the melted remains of 1/2 gallon of ice cream in the other, and woke up next day covered in regret.
LOL True. One "expert" does actually say that losing weight requires constant hunger, and so does mainatining at a lower weight, so if one wants that they must be prepared for constant hunger for life. LOL He also said just losing 10% of your body weight is helpful and implied that fat people can be satisfied with that.... I took those parts with a grain of salt since I have found it to be wrong in my case1. It's nothing new that those thin people will gain weight because they ate at a calorie surplus.
2. You don't gain muscle just from overeating, and if you did it would be smalk eniugh that it would go unnoticed.
I'm interested in seeing other replies.
The muscle gains appeared to have happend though. It wasn't a great deal, just a few pounds, but it appears to have happened. His BMR increased too.
What? That expert isn't worth the paper "expertness" is printed on.
I'm not constantly hungry, and I've lost way more than 10% of my original weight. And I don't low carb.
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PeachyCarol wrote: ».This is a really good watch. But only on a day your tummy is full and you aren't questioning yourself even a little bit about your decision to lose weight or maintain a lower body weight than your body wants to maintain.
Otherwise, talk about triggering! I watched this a year or so back, promptly went to the grocery store, passed out late that night with a cookie in one hand and the melted remains of 1/2 gallon of ice cream in the other, and woke up next day covered in regret.
LOL True. One "expert" does actually say that losing weight requires constant hunger, and so does mainatining at a lower weight, so if one wants that they must be prepared for constant hunger for life. LOL He also said just losing 10% of your body weight is helpful and implied that fat people can be satisfied with that.... I took those parts with a grain of salt since I have found it to be wrong in my case1. It's nothing new that those thin people will gain weight because they ate at a calorie surplus.
2. You don't gain muscle just from overeating, and if you did it would be smalk eniugh that it would go unnoticed.
I'm interested in seeing other replies.
The muscle gains appeared to have happend though. It wasn't a great deal, just a few pounds, but it appears to have happened. His BMR increased too.
What? That expert isn't worth the paper "expertness" is printed on.
I'm not constantly hungry, and I've lost way more than 10% of my original weight. And I don't low carb.
I agree. It may be true for some that a 10% loss is all they will get to (perhaps if they don't find a WOE that works for them), but not for all - thank goodness.0 -
Thanks for posting this! I'll definitely be watching after work
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