Altshift diet
Candicem99
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has anyone tried this? Written by Jason Sieb. Just trying to find something that may work for me. Exercising and not losing
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Personally, I use the ctrl+alt+del diet.0
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Personally, I use the ctrl+alt+del diet.
why did you bother responding?
OP never heard of the altshift diet so cant respond about that.
I would try this instead, but up to you.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/819925/the-basics-dont-complicate-it/p10 -
I have no idea what that is, but no matter what type of "style" of eating you use, the only important thing is that you eat less than you burn. Use MFP, count all the calories and be patient. Exercising is great for the health, but almost irrelevant for the weight loss (if you don't count the calories you eat).0
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I have to disagree with Artemiris...unless you're looking for something that is not sustainable. I have been doing AltShift for 4 cycles now and LOVE IT!!!!!! Easiest and most satisfying "diet" ever.0
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Unfortunately you have to buy the program to get the specifics of the diet so I can't comment on that. That being said, the information they do provide points to a focus on what time of day you eat. This is pure BS. When you eat is of sooooooo little importance compared to how many calories a day you consume. To echo what Artemiris said, all the exercise in the world won't help if you eat too many calories. Exercise helps by increasing how many calories you burn each day, but unless it's paired with a controlled diet, it will do you no good as far as weight loss is concerned. I would not pay any money for a diet. Everything you need is available here for free. Rather than restricting what or when you eat, I believe it would be far simpler to eat what/when you want as long as you can maintain your calorie deficit.0
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Personally, I use the ctrl+alt+del diet.
I was thinking exactly this. I guess you have to be old enough and/or technical enough to get it.I have no idea what that is, but no matter what type of "style" of eating you use, the only important thing is that you eat less than you burn. Use MFP, count all the calories and be patient. Exercising is great for the health, but almost irrelevant for the weight loss (if you don't count the calories you eat).
OP, this pretty much sums up everything you need to know about any diet that requires you to buy anything other than food from the grocery store.0 -
I have to disagree with Artemiris...unless you're looking for something that is not sustainable. I have been doing AltShift for 4 cycles now and LOVE IT!!!!!! Easiest and most satisfying "diet" ever.
I suspect the reason this diet (whatever it is) has been so great for you is because you are--wait for it--eating at a deficit.....and you can do that without paying for it.0 -
What exactly is the altshift diet? You have to pay to get details, so I have no idea what to say about it. Can you elaborate on it?0
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This.I have no idea what that is, but no matter what type of "style" of eating you use, the only important thing is that you eat less than you burn. Use MFP, count all the calories and be patient. Exercising is great for the health, but almost irrelevant for the weight loss (if you don't count the calories you eat).
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So many words, so little info:
http://everydaypaleo.com/introducing-jason-seibs-life-changing-new-plan-altshift/
http://revaret.com/altshift-review-jason-seibs/0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
But the person who wrote the intro was Paleo before it was cool!0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
A few gems of wisdom from that absurd article:
"We checked her calories to make sure they were high enough to keep her body from panicking and hoarding fat while simultaneously dumping muscle" This statement makes science sad
"You know the routine. You start a shiny new diet and some weight is lost on the front end, maybe even quickly, but then you hit a wall. You persist for a while, but nobody can keep pushing for results that aren’t coming."
Except for those of us whose shiny new diet is a calorie deficit. It doesn't come to a halt so long as the deficit is maintained
The worst part is that you do not receive any details beyond vague inferences as to what you are actually paying for. I would not pay a single cent for this. The bits and pieces they do give you are not scientifically sound, and they shroud the rest in mystery until you pay. No thank you...0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
A few gems of wisdom from that absurd article:
"We checked her calories to make sure they were high enough to keep her body from panicking and hoarding fat while simultaneously dumping muscle" This statement makes science sad
"You know the routine. You start a shiny new diet and some weight is lost on the front end, maybe even quickly, but then you hit a wall. You persist for a while, but nobody can keep pushing for results that aren’t coming."
Except for those of us whose shiny new diet is a calorie deficit. It doesn't come to a halt so long as the deficit is maintained
The worst part is that you do not receive any details beyond vague inferences as to what you are actually paying for. I would not pay a single cent for this. The bits and pieces they do give you are not scientifically sound, and they shroud the rest in mystery until you pay. No thank you...
All of this.
The altshift diet sounds like a ridiculous gimmick trying to make money off of book sales. I wouldn't buy into it.
A calorie deficit is absolutely sustainable. Find an eating style that you enjoy that helps you achieve a deficit and run with it. I personally eat what I like within my calorie and macro goals and it works for me.0 -
Maybe @BodyGlory can share the secrets they won't divulge until you sign up...I have to disagree with Artemiris...unless you're looking for something that is not sustainable. I have been doing AltShift for 4 cycles now and LOVE IT!!!!!! Easiest and most satisfying "diet" ever.
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I am in the second cycle of AltShift and so far I like it a lot. It's a mix of paleo diet, perfect health diet and keto diet (and, probably, a bit of IIFYM, though food quality is way way more important). The "when to eat" part of the diet is not about the time of day, it's about two shifts (hence AltShift - alternating between two shifts, alternating amount of kcal, carbs and fats). Sounds complicated, I know, but it really is not, especially for folks coming from paleo diet.
I suppose, if you're okay with your current diet (whatever it would be), why bother trying smth new. I am guessing people who bought Jason's book first had been his fans/followers way before and now we have a second wave of people joining AltShift who have seen the results of the first group and want the same effect as well.
And yes, 30 USD for a pdf book is a lot. You have to have some basic knowledge of paleo/perfect health diet nutrition to be able to follow the diet (main principle is eating wholesome food) as the book does not provide a lot of information on that part.
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I absolutely will not pay anyone but my doctor and dietitian for their ideas on what I should be eating. Nobody else is qualified to give me the info!
So, sorry, I will not be buying your book/plan/whatever you're selling.0 -
Who's selling what?So, sorry, I will not be buying your book/plan/whatever you're selling.
People were wondering what the AltShift plan was so I provided info that I myself paid for. Nobody's selling you anything and I am glad your doctor and dietitian are qualified to provide you with advice.
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Why is eating less than you burn not sustainable? Given that that's the only way to lose weight, you're saying there's no sustainable way to lose weight.I have to disagree with Artemiris...unless you're looking for something that is not sustainable. I have been doing AltShift for 4 cycles now and LOVE IT!!!!!! Easiest and most satisfying "diet" ever.
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kshama2001 wrote: »
A few gems of wisdom from that absurd article:
"We checked her calories to make sure they were high enough to keep her body from panicking and hoarding fat while simultaneously dumping muscle" This statement makes science sad
"You know the routine. You start a shiny new diet and some weight is lost on the front end, maybe even quickly, but then you hit a wall. You persist for a while, but nobody can keep pushing for results that aren’t coming."
Except for those of us whose shiny new diet is a calorie deficit. It doesn't come to a halt so long as the deficit is maintained
The worst part is that you do not receive any details beyond vague inferences as to what you are actually paying for. I would not pay a single cent for this. The bits and pieces they do give you are not scientifically sound, and they shroud the rest in mystery until you pay. No thank you...
So much this. How did anyone's ancestors survive a paleolithic era if their body favored burning muscles (expensive to produce, return low amounts of energy when burned, have many uses outside of a fuel source) over burning fat (calorie cheap to produce, returns high energy per pound when burned, intended to act as energy reserve to be used)? How would they survive any era? Why are diets claiming a basis on evolutionary principle making statements that make no evolutionary sense, nor comply with the known facts of nutrition or even thermodynamics?0 -
christinev297 wrote: »Maybe @BodyGlory can share the secrets they won't divulge until you sign up...I have to disagree with Artemiris...unless you're looking for something that is not sustainable. I have been doing AltShift for 4 cycles now and LOVE IT!!!!!! Easiest and most satisfying "diet" ever.
And maybe not! If you want to know the details of the plan buy it! If you do not want to follow the plan, just rip it to shreds then don't. I have tried almost every plan going and regardless of in/out calories I have had little sustained success! Altshift is working, whatever science may say! The whole low fat diet industry is based on science that we now know to be grossly flawed, Jason Seib may not be a scientis but he has come up with something new which so far does not seem to be grossly flawed at all!0 -
ummm why would anyone pay money for something they don't know the exact details of? ?0
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Any diet plan that a) has a calorie deficit and b) you stick to is going to work.
If this helps you stick to the diet better, sure, go for it. I personally do better on diets with virtually zero rules (my only "rule" is calorie count, I prefer to hit my protein macro, I ignore everything else). I tend to naturally have some days that are lower or higher carb just because I eat different things on different days.0 -
LOL. Nooooope, sorry.I have to disagree with Artemiris...unless you're looking for something that is not sustainable. I have been doing AltShift for 4 cycles now and LOVE IT!!!!!! Easiest and most satisfying "diet" ever.
Eating at a caloric deficit IS the weight loss key... Eat less that your total daily energy expenditure (maintenance) and you lose weight, eat at TDEE you maintain, eat above TDEE and you gain. It makes total sense. Why over complicate something that seems so daunting to some in the beginning, anyway?
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I am in the second cycle of AltShift and so far I like it a lot. It's a mix of paleo diet, perfect health diet and keto diet (and, probably, a bit of IIFYM, though food quality is way way more important). The "when to eat" part of the diet is not about the time of day, it's about two shifts (hence AltShift - alternating between two shifts, alternating amount of kcal, carbs and fats). Sounds complicated, I know, but it really is not, especially for folks coming from paleo diet.
I suppose, if you're okay with your current diet (whatever it would be), why bother trying smth new. I am guessing people who bought Jason's book first had been his fans/followers way before and now we have a second wave of people joining AltShift who have seen the results of the first group and want the same effect as well.
And yes, 30 USD for a pdf book is a lot. You have to have some basic knowledge of paleo/perfect health diet nutrition to be able to follow the diet (main principle is eating wholesome food) as the book does not provide a lot of information on that part.
Then what the hell are you paying for, exactly?0 -
Apparently the first rule of Altshift is that you don't talk about Altshift. I don't think that anyone is sworn to secrecy before they make the purchase but it does seem like the particulars are very hush-hush. I can tell you what information I've gleaned by listening to the podcast and reading other forums. You eat low carb (<30 grams) for 5 days and then low fat (<40 grams) for 3. The calorie differential between the two "shifts" should be at least 300 calories. For instance, if your low carb days are 1500 calories your low fat days should be 1200 at most. They do recommend at least 1800 for women on the low carb days. That's pretty much the gist of it so if you were remotely interested in buying the book - I've just saved you $25.00 (current price).0
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