The most annoying things said...
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That I don't need to lose any more weight otherwise I'll look ill
It's being said because no one in my family has seen me this slim to them I probably do look too thin but really I still have a jiggly belly and thighs that need to go 0 -
Once again, context. This has nothing to do with what I said given context....HOLDING CALORIES & MACROS CONSTANT.0 -
Yeah, because it can't work in reverse. Eating carbs which is highly recommended on these forums in a bulk or a cut after a work out is real irrelevant information, which is food timing. Or a person can just eat 2k calories worth of Poptarts because a" calorie is just a calorie" and see what happens.
Besides, if you go to my first post, it was about sodium and sugar as well, not just the saying a calorie is a calorie. To get big you have to eat, but not all food is equal as macros like carbs, fats, proteins and what they do, people just cherry picked what I wrote for their own reasons.
nice straw man argument about eating pop tarts all day. No one is advocating that. Everyone in this thread said get adequate nutrition, hit macros, and fill in calories as needed from there.
most on these forums stress the important of carbs over protein when bulking, and then protein over carbs when cutting.
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Yeah, because it can't work in reverse. Eating carbs which is highly recommended on these forums in a bulk or a cut after a work out is real irrelevant information, which is food timing. Or a person can just eat 2k calories worth of Poptarts because a" calorie is just a calorie" and see what happens.
Besides, if you go to my first post, it was about sodium and sugar as well, not just the saying a calorie is a calorie. To get big you have to eat, but not all food is equal as macros like carbs, fats, proteins and what they do, people just cherry picked what I wrote for their own reasons.
nice straw man argument about eating pop tarts all day. No one is advocating that. Everyone in this thread said get adequate nutrition, hit macros, and fill in calories as needed from there.
most on these forums stress the important of carbs over protein when bulking, and then protein over carbs when cutting.
To add to the bold.. the reason why carbs are stressed during a bulk is because its very easy to hit . 8 to 1g of protein per lb of lean body mass. Heck i do it all the time while on a cut.0 -
patcheslee wrote: »What are some of the most annoying thing people say to you about your weight? I've had my doctor give the advice "eat more food" when I asked what would help me gain. It seems a little ridiculous that a doctor would blow off giving advice.
Most doctors will provide generic advice because most of them have never had a nutrition class in their life. And unless they specialize in a field that would address nutrtion, they dont know what to say. Keep in mind that nutrition is very specialized.0 -
Yeah, because it can't work in reverse. Eating carbs which is highly recommended on these forums in a bulk or a cut after a work out is real irrelevant information, which is food timing. Or a person can just eat 2k calories worth of Poptarts because a" calorie is just a calorie" and see what happens.
Besides, if you go to my first post, it was about sodium and sugar as well, not just the saying a calorie is a calorie. To get big you have to eat, but not all food is equal as macros like carbs, fats, proteins and what they do, people just cherry picked what I wrote for their own reasons.
nice straw man argument about eating pop tarts all day. No one is advocating that. Everyone in this thread said get adequate nutrition, hit macros, and fill in calories as needed from there.
most on these forums stress the important of carbs over protein when bulking, and then protein over carbs when cutting.
To add to the bold.. the reason why carbs are stressed during a bulk is because its very easy to hit . 8 to 1g of protein per lb of lean body mass. Heck i do it all the time while on a cut.
agree, I never have a hard time hitting my protein macro …actually, I am constantly over….0 -
Yeah, because it can't work in reverse. Eating carbs which is highly recommended on these forums in a bulk or a cut after a work out is real irrelevant information, which is food timing. Or a person can just eat 2k calories worth of Poptarts because a" calorie is just a calorie" and see what happens.
Besides, if you go to my first post, it was about sodium and sugar as well, not just the saying a calorie is a calorie. To get big you have to eat, but not all food is equal as macros like carbs, fats, proteins and what they do, people just cherry picked what I wrote for their own reasons.
nice straw man argument about eating pop tarts all day. No one is advocating that. Everyone in this thread said get adequate nutrition, hit macros, and fill in calories as needed from there.
most on these forums stress the important of carbs over protein when bulking, and then protein over carbs when cutting.
Straw man argument?
One could say you're arguing to argue. My original statement:
"I think the most annoying thing I often see with gaining weight ( or anything with fitness.) People that state " sugar and sodium amounts do not matter, a calorie is just a calorie." Pretty annoying statements and really bad advice."
You have not debunked what I wrote, or proved anything wrong. I have left many examples of why I wrote what I wrote. You'll cherry pick a sentence or thought and run with it instead of some real reason why I am wrong, and keep telling me it's wrong.
If proteins fats and carbs are effected metabolically different in the body I am right. If I am wrong why can I go to other post you have talked about timing and when to eat carbs, proteins. Obviously because they they have a different effect when consumed. My statement was broad regardless It can't by wrong only for argumentative purposes or when it fits an agenda, it doesn't work like that.0 -
Yeah, because it can't work in reverse. Eating carbs which is highly recommended on these forums in a bulk or a cut after a work out is real irrelevant information, which is food timing. Or a person can just eat 2k calories worth of Poptarts because a" calorie is just a calorie" and see what happens.
Besides, if you go to my first post, it was about sodium and sugar as well, not just the saying a calorie is a calorie. To get big you have to eat, but not all food is equal as macros like carbs, fats, proteins and what they do, people just cherry picked what I wrote for their own reasons.
nice straw man argument about eating pop tarts all day. No one is advocating that. Everyone in this thread said get adequate nutrition, hit macros, and fill in calories as needed from there.
most on these forums stress the important of carbs over protein when bulking, and then protein over carbs when cutting.
Straw man argument?
One could say you're arguing to argue. My original statement:
"I think the most annoying thing I often see with gaining weight ( or anything with fitness.) People that state " sugar and sodium amounts do not matter, a calorie is just a calorie." Pretty annoying statements and really bad advice."
You have not debunked what I wrote, or proved anything wrong. I have left many examples of why I wrote what I wrote. You'll cherry pick a sentence or thought and run with it instead of some real reason why I am wrong, and keep telling me it's wrong.
If proteins fats and carbs are effected metabolically different in the body I am right. If I am wrong why can I go to other post you have talked about timing and when to eat carbs, proteins. Obviously because they they have a different effect when consumed. My statement was broad regardless It can't by wrong only for argumentative purposes or when it fits an agenda, it doesn't work like that.
what you said has been debunked several times. What everyone has already pointed out, and you choose to ignore, is that all calories are the same from an energy standpoint; however, they are not all nutritionally the same.
you then went on to make a straw man argument about eating 2000 calories of pop tarts, which no one in this thread has advocated. What we are saying is that one shout get adequate nutrition, hit macros, and then fill in with whatever calories one wants, as you don't get extra credit for additional micros and macros beyond what is required in ones day.
so to repeat…
1000 calories of pop tarts = 1000 calories of carrots from an energy standpoint; however, they are not nutritionally the same, and no is advocating a diet of strictly one or the other.
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Yeah, because it can't work in reverse. Eating carbs which is highly recommended on these forums in a bulk or a cut after a work out is real irrelevant information, which is food timing. Or a person can just eat 2k calories worth of Poptarts because a" calorie is just a calorie" and see what happens.
Besides, if you go to my first post, it was about sodium and sugar as well, not just the saying a calorie is a calorie. To get big you have to eat, but not all food is equal as macros like carbs, fats, proteins and what they do, people just cherry picked what I wrote for their own reasons.
nice straw man argument about eating pop tarts all day. No one is advocating that. Everyone in this thread said get adequate nutrition, hit macros, and fill in calories as needed from there.
most on these forums stress the important of carbs over protein when bulking, and then protein over carbs when cutting.
Straw man argument?
One could say you're arguing to argue. My original statement:
"I think the most annoying thing I often see with gaining weight ( or anything with fitness.) People that state " sugar and sodium amounts do not matter, a calorie is just a calorie." Pretty annoying statements and really bad advice."
You have not debunked what I wrote, or proved anything wrong. I have left many examples of why I wrote what I wrote. You'll cherry pick a sentence or thought and run with it instead of some real reason why I am wrong, and keep telling me it's wrong.
If proteins fats and carbs are effected metabolically different in the body I am right. If I am wrong why can I go to other post you have talked about timing and when to eat carbs, proteins. Obviously because they they have a different effect when consumed. My statement was broad regardless It can't by wrong only for argumentative purposes or when it fits an agenda, it doesn't work like that.
what you said has been debunked several times. What everyone has already pointed out, and you choose to ignore, is that all calories are the same from an energy standpoint; however, they are not all nutritionally the same.
you then went on to make a straw man argument about eating 2000 calories of pop tarts, which no one in this thread has advocated. What we are saying is that one shout get adequate nutrition, hit macros, and then fill in with whatever calories one wants, as you don't get extra credit for additional micros and macros beyond what is required in ones day.
so to repeat…
1000 calories of pop tarts = 1000 calories of carrots from an energy standpoint; however, they are not nutritionally the same, and no is advocating a diet of strictly one or the other.
What you're saying is very untrue about 1000 calories of carrots being equal to a 1000 calories of Poptarts as a energy standpoint! The main reason is nutritional value, but the second reason how the energy is broken(absorbed) insulin spikes and other factors when being used in the body.
The vast amounts of sugar/calories from the Poptarts is burned quicker than the calories from the carrots, and because the carrot has fiber it slows down the process further. Stop stating what you think you know and go with what actual happens and some research. This is why you give bad advice.
Can you still have a Poptart over a carrot? Yes, but there is no DT who is going to agree with your statement. You're hanging too much on the energy aspect you complete miss the process of consumption. Yes, they both create energy but it's not even close to the same amount because of how the body absorbs it. And if it's not the same the effect it makes a calorie not just a calorie.
The argument of filling calories is also flawed, because the effect will still be the same no matter how many calories you are consuming. Insulin spikes aren't bias it's not like the body is going to go (well I already ate 1500 calories today, no more spikes for me). The body doesn't know your goal of gaining or losing weight, it just reacts to foods, aka calories you eat. The reaction can burn more calories or less. ( like working out)
Need another example, there was a recent study of soda and the effect it has on the body metabolically , go research it and you will see Milk will have no way have the same effect. 200 calories of soda is not =to 200 calories of Milk, thus not all energy is the same even though the calories are. So, a calorie is not just a calorie!
You can't debunk if there is facts.
So to repeat again, nothing debunked, just an opinion trying to counter facts.0 -
A calorie is a unit of measurement.
I don't understand what you don't understand about this.0 -
Guys, if you want to start the debate on a calorie vs a calorie, please do it in another thread. We don't need to go down this rabbit hole again.0
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Nevermind, I don't even care.
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Sticking to the original subject. An example of annoying thing said....My brother made a comment to me about my weight loss awhile back....asking me if I had cancer because I lost so much weight. lol I looked at him and said...Hows your fat gut and stick legs coming along?
Brothers...... 0 -
annoying things said to me "you're thick- that's ALL you can squat"
"don't lose any more weight"0 -
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A trainer at my gym approached me with a comment about my bench press (not a problem with form or anything) and then asked me a few questions about my workout. When I told him the lifts I do (I follow SL 5x5) he said:
"Aren't you worried you'll hurt yourself?" And "you could do calisthenics, that won't let you get bulky"
I wanted to smack him with a 25lb plate...I was thoroughly annoyed.0 -
"Have you been eating a lot of fried food [again]?" My doctor.0
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What is annoying is when I go trick or treating and I get a box of raisins. They say, "I only give out healthy treats!" WTF!0
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mattyc772014 wrote: »What is annoying is when I go trick or treating and I get a box of raisins. They say, "I only give out healthy treats!" WTF!
HAHAHA0 -
I have some favorites..
In the weight gaining section, everyone has a fast metabolism
In the losing weight section, everyone has a slow metabolism.
But when you figure out how they are tracking calorie, its not true..
Oh love me some somatotypes.0 -
I either hear "Your so lucky. I wish I had your problem"...uhhh no you don't. Or "Your so skinny. Why don't you just eat?"...deep down I want to reply "Why don't you stop stuffing your face?!" but the grownup in me says to not even bother arguing about it. They'll never understand.....0
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While trying to justify eating 2500 calories a day (after I increased my activity level), and family members think I'm so obsessed about eating more food. Similarly, or that 300g of carbs a day is definitely way too many for me, even though that would be just under 50% of my total calorie intake. (Without measuring blood sugar levels after eating there's no conclusive evidence that my body's carb threshold is not that high). Mind you, I'm a 21 year old male with a BMI of 19.3, and I also do a little bit of strength training. My waist size is smaller than most women out there, and they know it. I just don't get it.0
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I have had people say it to me yes... mostly out of 'love' if you will- they know I work hard- and they respect me. But it's still annoying.0 -
Since trying to gain..."I'm not normal"0
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5'3, 119 lbs... most annoying thing said is when people tell me to eat more! I take in 2000 calories a day, how much more do you want me to take in? Or, when friends say "Yeah you can eat whatever, you're skinny." Not fair. I still watch what I eat, and I still workout like mad to maintain the way I look! Sorry!0
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lbaxandall wrote: »5'3, 119 lbs... most annoying thing said is when people tell me to eat more! I take in 2000 calories a day, how much more do you want me to take in? Or, when friends say "Yeah you can eat whatever, you're skinny." Not fair. I still watch what I eat, and I still workout like mad to maintain the way I look! Sorry!
To be fair, if you're trying to gain weight and you aren't gaining at your current intake, that is the answer. While it may seem like a ton of food to you, if you are burning a large number of calories, you aren't going to gain until you up your intake.
If you feel like the volume of food you eat is too much, try swapping out low calorie foods with higher calorie options.0 -
Not about my weight, but a friend said he wanted to tone muscle. He didn't want to gain any or at least much. I told him there's not really any such thing as toning muscle, but only building muscle or losing fat to make muscle more defined. He's at, I estimate, 30% BF, so I told him he'd be better off losing fat because, if he wanted muscle definition, he'd see it most at about 10% BF. He said he wasn't fat and he'd just work out to get the muscle. I told him to measure what he eats re: calories. He said, I kid you not, "I can't be bothered to calculate my calories." Good luck then. Either he'd have to lose 20% BF to see any muscle definition or he'd have to gain a ton of muscle that he loses the 20% BF, which he told me he doesn't want to do. And not track calories? Pfff. He wanted to wing it to success when tons of people wrack their brains for months or years trying to get there.0
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