MACROS OR COUNTING CALORIES???

ymarq84
ymarq84 Posts: 16 Member
edited November 25 in Food and Nutrition
Question to all MFP friends do you guys track your food based on calories or macros? Also have any of you purchased the upgraded version or thinking of upgrading?

-How do you figure out how many grams of each to eat? Any help is helpful, thank you!

Replies

  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    edited October 2015
    Yes - I track for calories AND macros.

    Without tracking calories....I won't lose weight. Tracking macros for me is about staying full, fueling existing lean muscle, and meeting nutritional needs for bodily functions.

    It takes some time, tweaking meals and snacks to get me in my preferred macro ranges.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    edited October 2015
    B1cySWACEAEak2R.jpg

    I went with basing my protein and fat MINIMUMS on my weight (0.35-0.45g fat per lb goal body weight and 0.6-0.8g protein per pound goal body weight). Then, fill in with carbs as appropriate for your personal needs (energy levels, medical concerns, satiety preference, etc.).

    ETA: And I don't pay for premium. I just messed around with my percentages until I got close to the gram levels I'd calculated.
  • maillemaker
    maillemaker Posts: 1,253 Member
    If you care about weight loss, it's all about the calories. The fitness people worry about macros.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    If you care about weight loss, it's all about the calories. The fitness people worry about macros.

    I don't know that that is true. Many people have problems with satiety. In fact, I believe you have posted many times about it. One of the ways to improve satiety is to experiment with various macro levels to find a way of eating that provides enough volume of food and keeps you feeling full longer. It is not only for "fitness people".
  • autumnblade75
    autumnblade75 Posts: 1,661 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    If you care about weight loss, it's all about the calories. The fitness people worry about macros.

    I don't know that that is true. Many people have problems with satiety. In fact, I believe you have posted many times about it. One of the ways to improve satiety is to experiment with various macro levels to find a way of eating that provides enough volume of food and keeps you feeling full longer. It is not only for "fitness people".

    I dunno. I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to be one of those "fitness people" anyway. They've got the muscle definition thing going for them, instead of that skinny fat physique.

    Calories are more important for weight loss, that's true - start there.
  • LaceyBirds
    LaceyBirds Posts: 451 Member
    If you care about weight loss, it's all about the calories. The fitness people worry about macros.

    I care about weight loss, and I don't exercise - I did a couple of months walking a half-hour a day, but stopped a month ago. I've lost 55 pounds so far, 34 since starting MFP in mid-April, and have 40 to go.

    At first, it was all about the calories, but, as I have continued logging (190 days today), it has become equally important for me to hit my macros and micros. At 1200 calories, that is hard to do, and I have to plan and juggle things constantly, but I am able to make most of them every day, and not go over the ones I need to keep lower too, like sodium. The only one I have trouble going over is sugar, and that is mostly from included sugars, like in milk, and occasionally carbs. But I make sure to make or exceed my protein, fiber, calcium and vitamins every day.

  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    LaceyBirds wrote: »
    If you care about weight loss, it's all about the calories. The fitness people worry about macros.

    I care about weight loss, and I don't exercise - I did a couple of months walking a half-hour a day, but stopped a month ago. I've lost 55 pounds so far, 34 since starting MFP in mid-April, and have 40 to go.

    At first, it was all about the calories, but, as I have continued logging (190 days today), it has become equally important for me to hit my macros and micros. At 1200 calories, that is hard to do, and I have to plan and juggle things constantly, but I am able to make most of them every day, and not go over the ones I need to keep lower too, like sodium. The only one I have trouble going over is sugar, and that is mostly from included sugars, like in milk, and occasionally carbs. But I make sure to make or exceed my protein, fiber, calcium and vitamins every day.

    I actually stopped tracking sugar because the "limit" is based off of added sugars, but there is no distinction in the database for added vs. "natural" sugar. So, it's pretty irrelevant.
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    Calories=weight loss, macros=nutrition. Play around to find a ratio that works for you. I'm fine with the standard 50/30/20 (though I might switch a bit of the carbs to protein). Others find their success by going low carb or low fat.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited October 2015
    If you care about weight loss, it's all about the calories. The fitness people worry about macros.

    LOL...really?

    Macros (and micro-nutrients) make up calories and help determine the type of weight loss, cell repair, health through nutritional balance and RDA , energy and satiety

    I'm not sure that's a fitness proposition, it's a sustainable health proposition though
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    LaceyBirds wrote: »
    If you care about weight loss, it's all about the calories. The fitness people worry about macros.

    I care about weight loss, and I don't exercise - I did a couple of months walking a half-hour a day, but stopped a month ago. I've lost 55 pounds so far, 34 since starting MFP in mid-April, and have 40 to go.

    At first, it was all about the calories, but, as I have continued logging (190 days today), it has become equally important for me to hit my macros and micros. At 1200 calories, that is hard to do, and I have to plan and juggle things constantly, but I am able to make most of them every day, and not go over the ones I need to keep lower too, like sodium. The only one I have trouble going over is sugar, and that is mostly from included sugars, like in milk, and occasionally carbs. But I make sure to make or exceed my protein, fiber, calcium and vitamins every day.

    I swapped out sugar tracking for fibre - far more important and useful
  • LaceyBirds
    LaceyBirds Posts: 451 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    I actually stopped tracking sugar because the "limit" is based off of added sugars, but there is no distinction in the database for added vs. "natural" sugar. So, it's pretty irrelevant.
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I swapped out sugar tracking for fibre - far more important and useful

    Yes, I forgot to mention that I'm pre-diabetic, so I have to limit my sugars and carbs. I'm also on cholesterol and blood pressure meds, so I'm limiting . . . aaaaaagggghhhh, basically all the good stuff. :(:)

  • Yi5hedr3
    Yi5hedr3 Posts: 2,696 Member
    Both. You ll have to decide if you want to be a sugar burner or a fat burner. Standard or low carb diet.
  • Yi5hedr3
    Yi5hedr3 Posts: 2,696 Member
    LaceyBirds wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    I actually stopped tracking sugar because the "limit" is based off of added sugars, but there is no distinction in the database for added vs. "natural" sugar. So, it's pretty irrelevant.
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I swapped out sugar tracking for fibre - far more important and useful

    Yes, I forgot to mention that I'm pre-diabetic, so I have to limit my sugars and carbs. I'm also on cholesterol and blood pressure meds, so I'm limiting . . . aaaaaagggghhhh, basically all the good stuff. :(:)

    Ketogenic diet for you, no brainer!
  • KourtneyChristine
    KourtneyChristine Posts: 33 Member
    I track both!
  • Michael190lbs
    Michael190lbs Posts: 1,510 Member
    edited October 2015
    Calories to lose weight yes but Macros to lose weight efficiently. Sure anyone can drop their calories and lose weight but what will they look, feel and be once they hit that goal weight. My 2 cents

    If you don't get the needed protein and fats your body isn't working as efficiently as it possibly could which means your losing more muscle (muscle burns more calories) than you have to and your hair and nails look unhealthy..

    Take a 180lb man
    he should eat 144 grams of protein= 576 calories
    He should eat 72 grams of fat==== 648 calories

    Combined these two are 1224 calories 276 calories short of what most men should be eating a day minimum (1500). Take the 276 divide by 4 you get 69 calories of carbs which is the perfect low carb diet. Throw in another 250 calories earned from walking exercise etc just to be safe and you get to eat 138 grams of carbs for a non low carb diet

    assuming the person is working out.




  • CasperNaegle
    CasperNaegle Posts: 936 Member
    Yes I track macros.. but they all add up to calories. I want to manage my protein to a certain level, know how much fats I'm taking in and filling the rest with carbs to meet a calorie goal.
  • CasperNaegle
    CasperNaegle Posts: 936 Member
    Calories to lose weight yes but Macros to lose weight efficiently. Sure anyone can drop their calories and lose weight but what will they look, feel and be once they hit that goal weight. My 2 cents

    If you don't get the needed protein and fats your body isn't working as efficiently as it possibly could which means your losing more muscle (muscle burns more calories) than you have to and your hair and nails look unhealthy..

    Take a 180lb man
    he should eat 144 grams of protein= 576 calories
    He should eat 72 grams of fat==== 648 calories

    Combined these two are 1224 calories 276 calories short of what most men should be eating a day minimum (1500). Take the 276 divide by 4 you get 69 calories of carbs which is the perfect low carb diet. Throw in another 250 calories earned from walking exercise etc just to be safe and you get to eat 138 grams of carbs for a non low carb diet

    assuming the person is working out.




    I'm 195 and I do, I don't however believe in a low carb diet
    234 grams protein
    195 grams carbs
    40 grams fat
    ~2000 calories a day.. I'm usually getting to about 1700.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    If you care about weight loss, it's all about the calories. The fitness people worry about macros.

    I don't know that that is true. Many people have problems with satiety. In fact, I believe you have posted many times about it. One of the ways to improve satiety is to experiment with various macro levels to find a way of eating that provides enough volume of food and keeps you feeling full longer. It is not only for "fitness people".

    Yeah, this.

    I also care about maintaining as much muscle as possible (maybe that makes me a fitness person?) and being healthy, and watch macros based on those goals too.
  • ymarq84
    ymarq84 Posts: 16 Member
    edited October 2015
    Thank you all for this information, I was following the 1200 calories on MFP and I have hit a plateau and I am always hungry. I work out Mon-Fri 30-40 Min cardio (either Interval running or Stairmaster) I do strength training as well 4 times a week with Wed being my cardio only day. I need to lose at least 30 more lbs and I am having a hard time tweaking my food intake (calories vs. macros). I have gone online and I get different numbers for my macros which confuses me even more.

    185lbs 5'3 online BMR is 1614.85 I have an office job so am in front of a computer all day, I walk on my breaks. I did pay the premium for MFP this month but am confused as to what macros values to enter since I get different numbers online. Can anyone help me? Thank you! :smiley:
  • BoxerBrawler
    BoxerBrawler Posts: 2,032 Member
    I track both calories and macro's.
  • futuremilf2015
    futuremilf2015 Posts: 31 Member
    Well I count both my calories AND macros. I haven't lost as much weight as others but that is mainly because of a slow metabolism due to yo yo dieting.
    ymarq84 wrote: »
    Question to all MFP friends do you guys track your food based on calories or macros? Also have any of you purchased the upgraded version or thinking of upgrading?

    -How do you figure out how many grams of each to eat? Any help is helpful, thank you!

  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited October 2015
    ymarq84 wrote: »
    Thank you all for this information, I was following the 1200 calories on MFP and I have hit a plateau and I am always hungry. I work out Mon-Fri 30-40 Min cardio (either Interval running or Stairmaster) I do strength training as well 4 times a week with Wed being my cardio only day. I need to lose at least 30 more lbs and I am having a hard time tweaking my food intake (calories vs. macros). I have gone online and I get different numbers for my macros which confuses me even more.

    185lbs 5'3 online BMR is 1614.85 I have an office job so am in front of a computer all day, I walk on my breaks. I did pay the premium for MFP this month but am confused as to what macros values to enter since I get different numbers online. Can anyone help me? Thank you! :smiley:

    Macros are personal preference, so it's more about experimenting to see what works best for you.

    I personally find that protein at every meal is more filling for me, and also I have been convinced that eating at least .8 g of protein per lb at goal weight (as a rough proxy for someone who does not know LBM) is a good idea if you are exercising and want to preserve muscle mass while losing, so I aim for at least 96 grams of protein (5'3, goal weight around 120, I usually round the 96 g up to 100). That's about 400 calories from protein.

    If I were you I'd probably decide on a protein number and just aim to hit that and see how my calories fell when trying to eat a diet that was healthy and felt enjoyable to me and then evaluate what my fat and carbs were and whether I was feeling hungry or satisfied or if it varied day to day.

    From experimenting I find that 100 g protein, 50 g fat, and the rest carbs, depending on my calorie limit, how much exercise I'm doing, etc., tends to work well for me, although I don't worry if I have a weird day here or there.

    Are you eating back your exercise? At 1200 you should be.
  • ymarq84
    ymarq84 Posts: 16 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    ymarq84 wrote: »
    Thank you all for this information, I was following the 1200 calories on MFP and I have hit a plateau and I am always hungry. I work out Mon-Fri 30-40 Min cardio (either Interval running or Stairmaster) I do strength training as well 4 times a week with Wed being my cardio only day. I need to lose at least 30 more lbs and I am having a hard time tweaking my food intake (calories vs. macros). I have gone online and I get different numbers for my macros which confuses me even more.

    185lbs 5'3 online BMR is 1614.85 I have an office job so am in front of a computer all day, I walk on my breaks. I did pay the premium for MFP this month but am confused as to what macros values to enter since I get different numbers online. Can anyone help me? Thank you! :smiley:

    Macros are personal preference, so it's more about experimenting to see what works best for you.

    I personally find that protein at every meal is more filling for me, and also I have been convinced that eating at least .8 g of protein per lb at goal weight (as a rough proxy for someone who does not know LBM) is a good idea if you are exercising and want to preserve muscle mass while losing, so I aim for at least 96 grams of protein (5'3, goal weight around 120, I usually round the 96 g up to 100). That's about 400 calories from protein.

    If I were you I'd probably decide on a protein number and just aim to hit that and see how my calories fell when trying to eat a diet that was healthy and felt enjoyable to me and then evaluate what my fat and carbs were and whether I was feeling hungry or satisfied or if it varied day to day.

    From experimenting I find that 100 g protein, 50 g fat, and the rest carbs, depending on my calorie limit, how much exercise I'm doing, etc., tends to work well for me, although I don't worry if I have a weird day here or there.

    Are you eating back your exercise? At 1200 you should be.


    No, I usually don't. I wear a Polar HR monitor so I have dont know the exact amount of calories I burn while doing cardio only. Should I be eating all calories burned while working out, including the streght training?
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    Technically, you could do it either way because the calories would work out.

    I track calories. I don't want to eat to certain numbers of protein.

    I began tracking elsewhere because I wanted micros before MFP had them. I'm not switching back because I already paid someone else and because the MFP database and entries are much more complicated. What I'm using now is much easier.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    ymarq84 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    ymarq84 wrote: »
    Thank you all for this information, I was following the 1200 calories on MFP and I have hit a plateau and I am always hungry. I work out Mon-Fri 30-40 Min cardio (either Interval running or Stairmaster) I do strength training as well 4 times a week with Wed being my cardio only day. I need to lose at least 30 more lbs and I am having a hard time tweaking my food intake (calories vs. macros). I have gone online and I get different numbers for my macros which confuses me even more.

    185lbs 5'3 online BMR is 1614.85 I have an office job so am in front of a computer all day, I walk on my breaks. I did pay the premium for MFP this month but am confused as to what macros values to enter since I get different numbers online. Can anyone help me? Thank you! :smiley:

    Macros are personal preference, so it's more about experimenting to see what works best for you.

    I personally find that protein at every meal is more filling for me, and also I have been convinced that eating at least .8 g of protein per lb at goal weight (as a rough proxy for someone who does not know LBM) is a good idea if you are exercising and want to preserve muscle mass while losing, so I aim for at least 96 grams of protein (5'3, goal weight around 120, I usually round the 96 g up to 100). That's about 400 calories from protein.

    If I were you I'd probably decide on a protein number and just aim to hit that and see how my calories fell when trying to eat a diet that was healthy and felt enjoyable to me and then evaluate what my fat and carbs were and whether I was feeling hungry or satisfied or if it varied day to day.

    From experimenting I find that 100 g protein, 50 g fat, and the rest carbs, depending on my calorie limit, how much exercise I'm doing, etc., tends to work well for me, although I don't worry if I have a weird day here or there.

    Are you eating back your exercise? At 1200 you should be.


    No, I usually don't. I wear a Polar HR monitor so I have dont know the exact amount of calories I burn while doing cardio only. Should I be eating all calories burned while working out, including the streght training?

    I would eat back some, at least. Maybe 75% to start -- I don't think MFP gives a huge calorie amount for strength training anyway.
  • ymarq84
    ymarq84 Posts: 16 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    ymarq84 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    ymarq84 wrote: »
    Thank you all for this information, I was following the 1200 calories on MFP and I have hit a plateau and I am always hungry. I work out Mon-Fri 30-40 Min cardio (either Interval running or Stairmaster) I do strength training as well 4 times a week with Wed being my cardio only day. I need to lose at least 30 more lbs and I am having a hard time tweaking my food intake (calories vs. macros). I have gone online and I get different numbers for my macros which confuses me even more.

    185lbs 5'3 online BMR is 1614.85 I have an office job so am in front of a computer all day, I walk on my breaks. I did pay the premium for MFP this month but am confused as to what macros values to enter since I get different numbers online. Can anyone help me? Thank you! :smiley:

    Macros are personal preference, so it's more about experimenting to see what works best for you.

    I personally find that protein at every meal is more filling for me, and also I have been convinced that eating at least .8 g of protein per lb at goal weight (as a rough proxy for someone who does not know LBM) is a good idea if you are exercising and want to preserve muscle mass while losing, so I aim for at least 96 grams of protein (5'3, goal weight around 120, I usually round the 96 g up to 100). That's about 400 calories from protein.

    If I were you I'd probably decide on a protein number and just aim to hit that and see how my calories fell when trying to eat a diet that was healthy and felt enjoyable to me and then evaluate what my fat and carbs were and whether I was feeling hungry or satisfied or if it varied day to day.

    From experimenting I find that 100 g protein, 50 g fat, and the rest carbs, depending on my calorie limit, how much exercise I'm doing, etc., tends to work well for me, although I don't worry if I have a weird day here or there.

    Are you eating back your exercise? At 1200 you should be.


    No, I usually don't. I wear a Polar HR monitor so I have dont know the exact amount of calories I burn while doing cardio only. Should I be eating all calories burned while working out, including the streght training?

    I would eat back some, at least. Maybe 75% to start -- I don't think MFP gives a huge calorie amount for strength training anyway.

    From what I have seen it doesn't give you any calories back at all for streght training. I will start eating back some, is it normal to feel guilty that you are eating them back when you are suppose to be burning them for a reason?? lol
  • Michael190lbs
    Michael190lbs Posts: 1,510 Member
    It gives back aprox 250 calories for strength training-
This discussion has been closed.