Calorie goal too high !?
cdmaso01
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I punched in my weight and height (yes accurately) and my activity level as active and they are telling me I can eat 1800 calories to lose weight. That seems like wayyyyy to much to loose weight no? I'm 5 2 and weight 210 pounds, but I'm not obese or anything like that. Most people would guess I'm like 160. I also exercise frequently play hockey twice a week soccer once a week and do lots of hikes. Should I try for 1800 calories and if I don't see results lower it? How to I even lower the caloric goal?
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210 is obese. Unless ure pure steroid muscle0
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Yep. I eat on average in the 1800-2000 calorie range for weight loss. It's completely possible to lose weight at that calorie level. I only recently came to the conclusion that I might need to eat a bit less. I'm 126 lbs now, but I started around 218 lbs on MFP (my highest weight was 260 lbs, but I didn't start tracking calories until around 218 lbs).
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30 Day Average Intake: 2010
Scale Loss in that time: 1 lb
When I was heavier, I lost faster at this amount. Now that I'm lighter it's slow, so slow.0 -
What do you do all day that you would put your activity level at active? That would be the starting point to see if it is set up correctly.
At 210lbs it could be right.0 -
1800 doesn't seem like much. You have to change your attitude. We've been brainwashed into thinking 1200 calories is a starting point to lose weight when many of us require much much more.0
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I've found the BMR and activity calculaors to be good tools. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/tools/bmr-calculator gives a pretty accurate number for how many calories just to survive on the couch. Others like this one http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/health/bmr-calculator.php give you a number based on overall activity - easier than figuring the value of each exercise. Calculate your own, but you should lose at 1800, and any less your on field performance would suffer.0
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »What do you do all day that you would put your activity level at active? That would be the starting point to see if it is set up correctly.
At 210lbs it could be right.
I am a nurse so we run around alot on our shifts and fo alot of heavy lifting of patients
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I lose weight just fine on 1800 on non-training days and 2200 on training days. I do weigh quite a lot more, but you exceed my level of activity.0
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Here is another calculator for you to play around with. 1800 seems about right. The best thing is to try 1800 for a while and see how you are doing. Are you losing too quickly? adjust accordingly. My goal changes here and there
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/0 -
I'm also 5'2" and i have mine set at "Sedentary" and I weighed 176 to start. If you check on a BMI calculator, ideally the advanced kind that account for your waist-to-hip measurement ratio, you will find yourself in the obese category. But I also see why you say that's not obese. At our height, the weight seems to count a LOT more. A 5'7" person at our weight would never be considered more than overweight. And you get this idea in your head about "obese" as a visual representation of someone who is really very large and obviously overweight in an unhealthy way. In my experience, while I don't look great, I can look good given the right clothing and shaper--wear. So it's hard to accept that word "obese" when you look in the mirror. Try to ignore the connotations of that word and focus on your goal. Here's some really good sites for finding your BMR and RMR, and the latter has a really great explanation of those that maybe will help you to either A.Realize 1800 is fine or B. reassess what you need to be at.
Find YOUR BMR here: http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/basal-metabolic-rate-sub/?ordersrc=PRGD2S58605CN&gclid=CPntosjFz8gCFQIQaQodxbIJFg
Find YOUR RMR (as well as a great explanation of the difference) here: http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/resting-metabolic-rate-calculator.aspx
MFP originally set me at like 1500, when I put "Lightly Active", but after checking these and really soul searching how much stuff I was counting as "activity" that truly isn't, I was able to fix it. I plan to raise it a little as I get to lower weights, so I have the energy to get more activity. I also eat back my exercise calories to stay healthy and satisfied.0 -
I punched in my weight and height (yes accurately) and my activity level as active and they are telling me I can eat 1800 calories to lose weight. That seems like wayyyyy to much to loose weight no? I'm 5 2 and weight 210 pounds, but I'm not obese or anything like that. Most people would guess I'm like 160. I also exercise frequently play hockey twice a week soccer once a week and do lots of hikes. Should I try for 1800 calories and if I don't see results lower it? How to I even lower the caloric goal?
I assume you are including all of your exercise in that activity level...so just understand that if you are, you won't want to follow the "eat back" exercise calories as recommended by MFP.
If you are truly that active and at your weight, you could absolutely lose weight on 1800 calories. My wife is pretty active and about the same height as you but around 130 Lbs...she maintains in the neighborhood of 2300 calories. Since you weight more, your maintenance is going to be even higher than that regardless of activity and exercise...you have more mass to move which requires more energy (calories) to move it.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »
I assume you are including all of your exercise in that activity level...so just understand that if you are, you won't want to follow the "eat back" exercise calories as recommended by MFP.
If you are truly that active and at your weight, you could absolutely lose weight on 1800 calories. My wife is pretty active and about the same height as you but around 130 Lbs...she maintains in the neighborhood of 2300 calories. Since you weight more, your maintenance is going to be even higher than that regardless of activity and exercise...you have more mass to move which requires more energy (calories) to move it.
This. I realize I didn't say so before, but I am set at 1200 calories and "Sedentary" So I don't count my exercise into my Activity Level setting on MFP. As a result, I can choose one day to do nothing and simply eat 1200 calories, OR I can work out to "buy" myself more food, and still NET 1200 calories by eating back the extra. This is just what works for me, and I really highly suggest you check out those links I added, but I find this way to be a lot more flexible while still being accurate, because one way or another I can be absolutely sure I'm at a deficit, work out that day or not.0 -
I'm also pretty small-framed as it happens, so for me 1200 can be satisfying, a larger-framed or more muscular person would probably require more to feel not hungry all the time and maintain their energy levels or basic daily activities.0
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clgaram720 wrote: »I'm also 5'2" and i have mine set at "Sedentary" and I weighed 176 to start. If you check on a BMI calculator, ideally the advanced kind that account for your waist-to-hip measurement ratio, you will find yourself in the obese category. But I also see why you say that's not obese. At our height, the weight seems to count a LOT more. A 5'7" person at our weight would never be considered more than overweight. And you get this idea in your head about "obese" as a visual representation of someone who is really very large and obviously overweight in an unhealthy way. In my experience, while I don't look great, I can look good given the right clothing and shaper--wear. So it's hard to accept that word "obese" when you look in the mirror. Try to ignore the connotations of that word and focus on your goal. Here's some really good sites for finding your BMR and RMR, and the latter has a really great explanation of those that maybe will help you to either A.Realize 1800 is fine or B. reassess what you need to be at.
Find YOUR BMR here: http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/basal-metabolic-rate-sub/?ordersrc=PRGD2S58605CN&gclid=CPntosjFz8gCFQIQaQodxbIJFg
Find YOUR RMR (as well as a great explanation of the difference) here: http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/resting-metabolic-rate-calculator.aspx
MFP originally set me at like 1500, when I put "Lightly Active", but after checking these and really soul searching how much stuff I was counting as "activity" that truly isn't, I was able to fix it. I plan to raise it a little as I get to lower weights, so I have the energy to get more activity. I also eat back my exercise calories to stay healthy and satisfied.
I got 2701 for the bar and 1900 for the rmr. So it seems that 1800 could definately lead to weight loss
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »What do you do all day that you would put your activity level at active? That would be the starting point to see if it is set up correctly.
At 210lbs it could be right.
I am a nurse so we run around alot on our shifts and fo alot of heavy lifting of patients
I'd ditto that level as being correct then, good call.
Some office nursing with more standing and slow moving would be Lightly Active.
And really confirmed if you have an active lifestyle outside of work and exercise too.
Some of the above comments will probably be confusing too since they added no clarity.
So to emphasis those that did - those other sites are talking about activity levels that only consider exercise - NOT daily life at all.
In fact you and a sedentary office worker saying you both do 3 hrs weekly of exercise would get the same activity level - and obviously that ain't true.
So stick with MFP style if you can deal with a a daily eating goal that goes up on days you exercise.
Because that eating goal is for non-exercise days. Exercise days you burn even more, and when you log it MFP does the math to give the same deficit.
And about 1 lb weekly would be reasonable right now - in case you selected 2 lbs weekly which I don't think you did from the numbers.0 -
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I punched in my weight and height (yes accurately) and my activity level as active and they are telling me I can eat 1800 calories to lose weight. That seems like wayyyyy to much to loose weight no? I'm 5 2 and weight 210 pounds, but I'm not obese or anything like that. Most people would guess I'm like 160. I also exercise frequently play hockey twice a week soccer once a week and do lots of hikes. Should I try for 1800 calories and if I don't see results lower it? How to I even lower the caloric goal?
5'2 and 210 is obese though ... It puts your BMI at 38 which is way into class 2 obese and close to morbidly obese
Overweight (not obese), if BMI is 25.0 to 29.9
Class 1 (low-risk) obesity, if BMI is 30.0 to 34.9
Class 2 (moderate-risk) obesity, if BMI is 35.0 to 39.9
Class 3 (high-risk) obesity, if BMI is equal to or greater than 40.
As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight
I would agree you are probably moderately active and that 1800 calories is a good starting point. Good luck
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*edited because stupid comment was stupid and needed unsaying since it was not accurate but well meaning.0
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BecomingBane wrote: »clgaram720 wrote: »I'm also 5'2" and i have mine set at "Sedentary" and I weighed 176 to start. If you check on a BMI calculator, ideally the advanced kind that account for your waist-to-hip measurement ratio, you will find yourself in the obese category. But I also see why you say that's not obese. At our height, the weight seems to count a LOT more. A 5'7" person at our weight would never be considered more than overweight. And you get this idea in your head about "obese" as a visual representation of someone who is really very large and obviously overweight in an unhealthy way. In my experience, while I don't look great, I can look good given the right clothing and shaper--wear. So it's hard to accept that word "obese" when you look in the mirror. Try to ignore the connotations of that word and focus on your goal. Here's some really good sites for finding your BMR and RMR, and the latter has a really great explanation of those that maybe will help you to either A.Realize 1800 is fine or B. reassess what you need to be at.
Find YOUR BMR here: http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/basal-metabolic-rate-sub/?ordersrc=PRGD2S58605CN&gclid=CPntosjFz8gCFQIQaQodxbIJFg
Find YOUR RMR (as well as a great explanation of the difference) here: http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/resting-metabolic-rate-calculator.aspx
MFP originally set me at like 1500, when I put "Lightly Active", but after checking these and really soul searching how much stuff I was counting as "activity" that truly isn't, I was able to fix it. I plan to raise it a little as I get to lower weights, so I have the energy to get more activity. I also eat back my exercise calories to stay healthy and satisfied.
I got 2701 for the bar and 1900 for the rmr. So it seems that 1800 could definately lead to weight loss
I guess we
That doesn't seem right. If you are saying your BMR is 2701 I'm pretty sure that's not right.
It's a TDEE calculator that is calling itself a BMR calculator.0 -
shadow2soul wrote: »BecomingBane wrote: »clgaram720 wrote: »I'm also 5'2" and i have mine set at "Sedentary" and I weighed 176 to start. If you check on a BMI calculator, ideally the advanced kind that account for your waist-to-hip measurement ratio, you will find yourself in the obese category. But I also see why you say that's not obese. At our height, the weight seems to count a LOT more. A 5'7" person at our weight would never be considered more than overweight. And you get this idea in your head about "obese" as a visual representation of someone who is really very large and obviously overweight in an unhealthy way. In my experience, while I don't look great, I can look good given the right clothing and shaper--wear. So it's hard to accept that word "obese" when you look in the mirror. Try to ignore the connotations of that word and focus on your goal. Here's some really good sites for finding your BMR and RMR, and the latter has a really great explanation of those that maybe will help you to either A.Realize 1800 is fine or B. reassess what you need to be at.
Find YOUR BMR here: http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/basal-metabolic-rate-sub/?ordersrc=PRGD2S58605CN&gclid=CPntosjFz8gCFQIQaQodxbIJFg
Find YOUR RMR (as well as a great explanation of the difference) here: http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/resting-metabolic-rate-calculator.aspx
MFP originally set me at like 1500, when I put "Lightly Active", but after checking these and really soul searching how much stuff I was counting as "activity" that truly isn't, I was able to fix it. I plan to raise it a little as I get to lower weights, so I have the energy to get more activity. I also eat back my exercise calories to stay healthy and satisfied.
I got 2701 for the bar and 1900 for the rmr. So it seems that 1800 could definately lead to weight loss
I guess we
That doesn't seem right. If you are saying your BMR is 2701 I'm pretty sure that's not right.
It's a TDEE calculator that is calling itself a BMR calculator.
That makes more sense. Good to know my math isn't broken. I was beginning to wonder. But it would be entirely possible if one is obese, so I retracted that statement.0 -
I punched in my weight and height (yes accurately) and my activity level as active and they are telling me I can eat 1800 calories to lose weight. That seems like wayyyyy to much to loose weight no? I'm 5 2 and weight 210 pounds, but I'm not obese or anything like that. Most people would guess I'm like 160. I also exercise frequently play hockey twice a week soccer once a week and do lots of hikes. Should I try for 1800 calories and if I don't see results lower it? How to I even lower the caloric goal?
5'2 and 210 is obese though ... It puts your BMI at 38 which is way into class 2 obese and close to morbidly obese
Overweight (not obese), if BMI is 25.0 to 29.9
Class 1 (low-risk) obesity, if BMI is 30.0 to 34.9
Class 2 (moderate-risk) obesity, if BMI is 35.0 to 39.9
Class 3 (high-risk) obesity, if BMI is equal to or greater than 40.
As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight
I would agree you are probably moderately active and that 1800 calories is a good starting point. Good luck
Ive seen many people whose BMI claimed they are obese but aren't even close. If a short bobybuilder did the BMI it would also say they are mobility obese. You make it sound like I am am so grossly obese I can't even leave the house. I came here for support not to be called fat
You don't even know what I look like in real life so don't go calling me obese. I didn't ask if I was obese or not I asked if this was a reasonable caloric goal or not
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I punched in my weight and height (yes accurately) and my activity level as active and they are telling me I can eat 1800 calories to lose weight. That seems like wayyyyy to much to loose weight no? I'm 5 2 and weight 210 pounds, but I'm not obese or anything like that. Most people would guess I'm like 160. I also exercise frequently play hockey twice a week soccer once a week and do lots of hikes. Should I try for 1800 calories and if I don't see results lower it? How to I even lower the caloric goal?
5'2 and 210 is obese though ... It puts your BMI at 38 which is way into class 2 obese and close to morbidly obese
Overweight (not obese), if BMI is 25.0 to 29.9
Class 1 (low-risk) obesity, if BMI is 30.0 to 34.9
Class 2 (moderate-risk) obesity, if BMI is 35.0 to 39.9
Class 3 (high-risk) obesity, if BMI is equal to or greater than 40.
As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight
I would agree you are probably moderately active and that 1800 calories is a good starting point. Good luck
Ive seen many people whose BMI claimed they are obese but aren't even close. If a short bobybuilder did the BMI it would also say they are mobility obese. You make it sound like I am am so grossly obese I can't even leave the house. I came here for support not to be called fat
You don't even know what I look like in real life so don't go calling me obese. I didn't ask if I was obese or not I asked if this was a reasonable caloric goal or not
Let me just repost what I said
As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight
I was obese at 210lbs and I'm 5'8
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Looks like the OP is getting some good advice in this thread, so I'll just leave this here for the flaggers: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10007789/flagged-content-reported-posts-warning-points0
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I punched in my weight and height (yes accurately) and my activity level as active and they are telling me I can eat 1800 calories to lose weight. That seems like wayyyyy to much to loose weight no? I'm 5 2 and weight 210 pounds, but I'm not obese or anything like that. Most people would guess I'm like 160. I also exercise frequently play hockey twice a week soccer once a week and do lots of hikes. Should I try for 1800 calories and if I don't see results lower it? How to I even lower the caloric goal?
5'2 and 210 is obese though ... It puts your BMI at 38 which is way into class 2 obese and close to morbidly obese
Overweight (not obese), if BMI is 25.0 to 29.9
Class 1 (low-risk) obesity, if BMI is 30.0 to 34.9
Class 2 (moderate-risk) obesity, if BMI is 35.0 to 39.9
Class 3 (high-risk) obesity, if BMI is equal to or greater than 40.
As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight
I would agree you are probably moderately active and that 1800 calories is a good starting point. Good luck
Ive seen many people whose BMI claimed they are obese but aren't even close. If a short bobybuilder did the BMI it would also say they are mobility obese. You make it sound like I am am so grossly obese I can't even leave the house. I came here for support not to be called fat
You don't even know what I look like in real life so don't go calling me obese. I didn't ask if I was obese or not I asked if this was a reasonable caloric goal or not
Let me just repost what I said
As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight
I was obese at 210lbs and I'm 5'8
I'm not quite understanding. You mean the BMI is a clinical definition (yes) but it doesn't reflect how you actually carry your weight ?
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I punched in my weight and height (yes accurately) and my activity level as active and they are telling me I can eat 1800 calories to lose weight. That seems like wayyyyy to much to loose weight no? I'm 5 2 and weight 210 pounds, but I'm not obese or anything like that. Most people would guess I'm like 160. I also exercise frequently play hockey twice a week soccer once a week and do lots of hikes. Should I try for 1800 calories and if I don't see results lower it? How to I even lower the caloric goal?
5'2 and 210 is obese though ... It puts your BMI at 38 which is way into class 2 obese and close to morbidly obese
Overweight (not obese), if BMI is 25.0 to 29.9
Class 1 (low-risk) obesity, if BMI is 30.0 to 34.9
Class 2 (moderate-risk) obesity, if BMI is 35.0 to 39.9
Class 3 (high-risk) obesity, if BMI is equal to or greater than 40.
As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight
I would agree you are probably moderately active and that 1800 calories is a good starting point. Good luck
Ive seen many people whose BMI claimed they are obese but aren't even close. If a short bobybuilder did the BMI it would also say they are mobility obese. You make it sound like I am am so grossly obese I can't even leave the house. I came here for support not to be called fat
You don't even know what I look like in real life so don't go calling me obese. I didn't ask if I was obese or not I asked if this was a reasonable caloric goal or not
Holy defensive post.
While you may or may not be obese depending on your musculature, either way it doesn't really matter. Your calorie goal seems appropriate for your size. And if you were low body fat at a high weight, you would expect an even higher goal I would think (if for nothing else you wouldn't want to lose quickly and risk losing LBM).0 -
She wasn't calling you fat. She was just giving you the clinical definition of obese, which you are. That doesn't mean you need a flat bed to pick you up out of a chair. It's just according to the all knowing chart of weight/height, you'd be considered obese. It's not an insult. I hope that helps and gets the thread back on track.0
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MissTattoo wrote: »She wasn't calling you fat. She was just giving you the clinical definition of obese, which you are. That doesn't mean you need a flat bed to pick you up out of a chair. It's just according to the all knowing chart of weight/height, you'd be considered obese. It's not an insult. I hope that helps and gets the
If I am clinically obese why don't I look it ?0 -
MissTattoo wrote: »She wasn't calling you fat. She was just giving you the clinical definition of obese, which you are. That doesn't mean you need a flat bed to pick you up out of a chair. It's just according to the all knowing chart of weight/height, you'd be considered obese. It's not an insult. I hope that helps and gets the thread back on track.
Well I guess my question then is if I am clinically u call obese then why don't I look it ?0 -
MissTattoo wrote: »She wasn't calling you fat. She was just giving you the clinical definition of obese, which you are. That doesn't mean you need a flat bed to pick you up out of a chair. It's just according to the all knowing chart of weight/height, you'd be considered obese. It's not an insult. I hope that helps and gets the thread back on track.
Well I guess my question then is if I am clinically u call obese then why don't I look it ?
The BMI numbers don't consider body fat %. Two 6' tall men, both 250 lb. One is 5% body fat, the other 40%. Very different look, same BMI: "obese".0 -
For the same reason I didn't
I carry weight well
But also I have a great self body image
Looking back to 50 odd pounds ago though, it's amazing how many of my photos make me look a fat that I never felt :bigsmile: - I was busting out of a US 12, I'm now a US 6-8 and still heavy for my looks
That said your calorie goal is still a good start
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For the same reason I didn't
I carry weight well
But also I have a great self body image
Looking back to 50 odd pounds ago though, it's amazing how many of my photos make me look a fat that I never felt
That said your calorie goal is still a good start
So good luck
Thanks for the clarification and sorry for being defensive I am just very sensitive about my weight0
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