Crystal sugar vs Fruit sugar
thevyrismark2
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So what exactly is the difference between crystal sugar and fruit sugar? I hear fruit sugar is healthier and I like to believe it is, but 1 homegrown pear got me over the sugar limit for the day. Should I actually care about that?
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calories are calories, whether its a few spoons of table sugar or an apple. The difference is that the apple will keep you fuller longer, since a lot of fiber comes along for the ride, whereas table sugar (in a spoon, or a gummi bear) will do little for satiety and will often, in fact, make you hungrier.0
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I feel a bit conflicted. I absolutely love fruit, but if I'm going by the app's guidelines I could only have half a piece of fruit a day
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thevyrismark2 wrote: »So what exactly is the difference between crystal sugar and fruit sugar? I hear fruit sugar is healthier and I like to believe it is, but 1 homegrown pear got me over the sugar limit for the day. Should I actually care about that?
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10197460/sugar-faq-june-2015/p1
Crystal sugar sucrose is a disaccharide, it splits easily into glucose and fructose molecules. Glucose and fructose, as well as sucrose are the major sugars found in fruit. So the short answer is that the sugars are the same molecules and will be processed in a similar way regardless of origin.
The MFP sugar limit is 45 grams at 1200 calories, one piece of fruit should not exceed that in fact two portions of fruit are typically within it.
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thevyrismark2 wrote: »So what exactly is the difference between crystal sugar and fruit sugar? I hear fruit sugar is healthier and I like to believe it is, but 1 homegrown pear got me over the sugar limit for the day. Should I actually care about that?
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10197460/sugar-faq-june-2015/p1
Crystal sugar sucrose is a disaccharide, it splits easily into glucose and fructose molecules. Glucose and fructose, as well as sucrose are the major sugars found in fruit. So the short answer is that the sugars are the same molecules and will be processed in a similar way regardless of origin.
The MFP sugar limit is 45 grams at 1200 calories, one piece of fruit should not exceed that in fact two portions of fruit are typically within it.
but isn't part of the "problem" that the actual recommendation comes from a suggestion for ADDED sugars?
Fruit, cows milk, and vegetables are often exclusions to the "sugar" in recs I've seen.
Doesn't meant that they aren't processed in the body same as table sugar though.
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The MFP sugar limit is 45 grams at 1200 calories, one piece of fruit should not exceed that in fact two portions of fruit are typically within it.
I weighed the pear and according to this app, it had 60g of sugar in it. It's homegrown and sweeter than supermarket pears, so that could be right. It's just that I love fruit and if I only have half of it, the rest will probably spoil. I'm very neurotic about not wasting food.0 -
MFPs guideline is constructed for Total sugars. It is therefore higher than things like the WHO's guideline on FREE sugars. It is in line with similar total sugar guidelines in the EU. Health Canada were proposing 100g/day as an RDI on a maintenance diet.
Two portions of fruit (WHO 5 a day are 80g each) at 10% sugar = 16 grams.0 -
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80g. That must be one tiny little pear. Mine go up to 2kg. It's a very healthy tree
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You have over 4 lb pears?0
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catscats222 wrote: »i eat fruit and do not count the sugar in fruit
what i avoid, is added surgars - focus on that
i peeked in your diary and saw a bit of added sugars you could easily avoid.
True. I shouldn't have had the energy drink. I'm a caffaine addict though, so sometimes I just need one. That's a problem on my part.0 -
Your body registers sugars all the same way. The thing with sugar in your fruits is that there is a lot of other good things in that fruit that you are eating, but if you juice that fruit and only drink the liquid that comes out of the fruit, you are drinking sugar and do not get all the other good stuff fruit has to offer same with veggies. I don't worry to much if my sugar goes over due to fruit, but I do try not to go over by much if any at all. I would be more concerned on added sugar and cutting those out.0
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With entries like "Sugar - Sugar, 6 tsp " you need to dial in a different target using custom goal setting, or turn it off. You have a high sugar diet.0
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I swapped out sugar tracking for fibre tracking because it doesn't matter0
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I'm trying to cut on sugar, but it's only been a few days since I started. I have to slowly get used to it. Aside from that I'm not too worried. I have maintained the same weight for 7 years while I'm sure I overdosed on sweets. My body seems to handle sugar pretty well. My brother is underweight and eats more sugar than I used to, so I guess that runs in the family. I will cut down on it though, just to see the effects.0
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For weight loss calories matters
For diabetics and other limited medical conditions sugars may matter
If you aren't in the latter group I would suggest that you don't worry too much about the effects of eating fruit within your calorie limit because of the other nutritional benefits
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For weight loss calories matters
For diabetics and other limited medical conditions sugars may matter
If you aren't in the latter group I would suggest that you don't worry too much about the effects of eating fruit within your calorie limit because of the other nutritional benefits
Good luck
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You probably won't get a good consistent answer here. Most nutrition/medical publications I've seen recommend limiting added sugar and not worrying about sugar naturally found in food if you don't have a medical condition that requires limiting all sugar.
The WHO is an exception. They recommend limiting all sugar, including natural.
If weight loss is your only concern, then you don't need to worry about anything other than calories. The sugar recommendations are health recommendations not weight loss.0 -
thevyrismark2 wrote: »
I just want to be sure, since it's a faq, but are you subtracting the weight of the core and parts you don't eat?
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diannethegeek wrote: »thevyrismark2 wrote: »
I just want to be sure, since it's a faq, but are you subtracting the weight of the core and parts you don't eat?
Good point actually, I weight the fruit before I start but not the waste after....I will now though!!0 -
It's metabolized by your body in the same way (I asked a chemist - who after doing her masters is now in med school). However, with granulated sugar, it's usually baked into things using other grains (flour - so cupcakes, cookies, etc). So you're eating sugar plus your body is breaking down the grains into more sugar - so it can kind of be a double whammy. Fruit sugar isn't accompanied by that.
I am not sure of the actual sugar content of fruit. I should look it up... but I wonder how many tsp of sugar is in a 200 g apple for example. I also wonder if it's easier to eat a lot of granulated sugar in one sitting than eating the equivalent of sugar in amount of fruit.
ETA:
20 g sugar in a 200 g apple (a decent sized apple).
20 g sugar in a mini WalMart cupcake with icing... not including the conversion of flour to sugar. Plus the serving size is for 3 cupcakes so you could convince yourself to eat 3 of them, which would be 60 g plus the carbs. So it's probably easier to reach the "you're overdoing it" stage with cupcakes. Because it's easier to eat 3 mini cupcakes than it is to eat 3 mid to large sized apples.
A tsp of sugar is about 4 grams of sugar. So if you're adding it to coffee... I wonder if it's really such a big deal.thevyrismark2 wrote: »
That being said... if you're eating a 2000 g pear everyday (I would LOVE to see a photo with something next to it for frame of reference. I find big fruit so funny. Or maybe on your food scale) that would have 200 g of sugar. It's also over 1100 calories for 1 pear that is 2 kg. Your limit is only 1330 a day, I don't think I could stick to my calories if I was on a large pear and a 200 calories snack as a daily diet.thevyrismark2 wrote: »The MFP sugar limit is 45 grams at 1200 calories, one piece of fruit should not exceed that in fact two portions of fruit are typically within it.
I weighed the pear and according to this app, it had 60g of sugar in it. It's homegrown and sweeter than supermarket pears, so that could be right. It's just that I love fruit and if I only have half of it, the rest will probably spoil. I'm very neurotic about not wasting food.
So that was a 600 g pear?
Pears have 10 g per 100 grams according to Google. So... you might want to start eating a quarter or half of a pear and freezing the rest to bake with or use in smoothies later or something. Or sharing it with someone.
Are you sure you didn't mean 0.2 kg? 200 grams? Or did you mean 2 lb? Which is still 900 g. I saw in your diary you're logging more like 160 g - 200 g pears... which is a pretty standard pear size.
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I decided to look it up!
Did you know the largest pear ever grown was an atago pear 2.948 kg (6 pounds 8 oz) and was grown in Japan? It was grown in 2011.
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diannethegeek wrote: »I just want to be sure, since it's a faq, but are you subtracting the weight of the core and parts you don't eat?
I didn't do that on purpose. If I type in more than I actually eat I will think I ate more and cut down on snacks at the end of the day. So far I've stayed well under my calory limit everyday that way.0 -
I think we need a picture of one of these 4lb pears. It must be the size of a small pumpkin.0
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TheopolisAmbroiseIII wrote: »I think we need a picture of one of these 4lb pears. It must be the size of a small pumpkin.
They are quite impressive. I don't know if anyone in my family ever took pictures, but I haven't. And pear season is pretty much over for me. I'll take some pics next year if I remember haha0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »You probably won't get a good consistent answer here. Most nutrition/medical publications I've seen recommend limiting added sugar and not worrying about sugar naturally found in food if you don't have a medical condition that requires limiting all sugar.
The WHO is an exception. They recommend limiting all sugar, including natural.
If weight loss is your only concern, then you don't need to worry about anything other than calories. The sugar recommendations are health recommendations not weight loss.
Correction; the WHO recommend limiting free sugars which they define as:
".... refer to monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) added to foods and drinks by the manufacturer, cook or consumer, and sugars naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit juice concentrates."
So fruit is fine.0 -
thevyrismark2 wrote: »80g. That must be one tiny little pear. Mine go up to 2kg. It's a very healthy tree
Omg, I wanna see that pear
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They're both glucose and both will be used by the body metabolically in the exact same way. The only difference is that the fruit has other nutritional value as baggage, the spoon on sugar comes with no baggage.0
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They're both glucose and both will be used by the body metabolically in the exact same way. The only difference is that the fruit has other nutritional value as baggage, the spoon on sugar comes with no baggage.
Well... technically a cup of sugar has 1% of one's daily intake of iron and a bit of potassium... lol0 -
They're both glucose and both will be used by the body metabolically in the exact same way. The only difference is that the fruit has other nutritional value as baggage, the spoon on sugar comes with no baggage.
Well... technically a cup of sugar has 1% of one's daily intake of iron and a bit of potassium... lol
I stand corrected! Excellent. If I attached feelings to my food intake, I would feel better about that desert bar I ate last night. I don't but we're all different and someone like me can!0 -
I need to ask
I always thought that the larger the fruit the less likely it would be to be absolutely delicious ...almost like the fruit delight is spread over too much mass
Are 2kg pears as yummy as a 100g one?0
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