Treadmill with incline burns more calories?

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  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    edited December 2015
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    segacs wrote: »
    ^ You're a guy. All things being equal, your burns will be much higher than hers.

    Which is why I was sure to point out that it was my personal rule of thumb and that other people will be different.

    That said, I wouldn't say men have "much higher" calorie burns than women just as a result of being men...it's more likely due to the fact that men weigh more and have more muscle mass, which I also accounted for in saying that overall burns hinge primarily on your weight and fitness level:

    Furthermore, it would seem a bit of a stretch to term the difference as 'huge'

    ... A study done by researchers at Syracuse found that men burned about 105 kilocalories/mile on average running a mile in 9 minutes and 30 seconds, and about 52 calories when walking the same mile in 19 minutes. For the women in the study, that burn was 91 and 43 calories, respectively.

    Source: http://running.competitor.com/2015/03/training/many-calories-running-burn_123951#cDMuEjx2Zmlmelxv.99
  • BurnWithBarn2015
    BurnWithBarn2015 Posts: 1,026 Member
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    I am "5.5
    50 years old
    145lbs

    walking 3.5 to 3.8 mph for 60 minutes gives me around 350 calories burned according to my HRM and my treadmill a little bit under that

    When i do it on an incline of 6 which i do most day i will get close to 500 calories with my HRM and 425 with the treadmill.

    So its wild lol

    btw this is GROSS calories not NET

    Interesting part is when i calculate the data over 90 days, so what i lost and burned the number of my HRM is off about 13% ( so higher)
    Over the NET calories.


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  • mrsaniamanning
    mrsaniamanning Posts: 56 Member
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    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Does it burn more calories? Yes

    Are those numbers accurate? Probably not. Exercise machines - even those you input your stats into - tend to vastly overestimate calories burned.

    This

    I'd halve the burn

    And remember that if you hold on it doesn't count

    Do you think walking at 3mph for 60 minutes would really only burn 140 calories? Or are you talking only about the added incline burning 500 cal? I'm just curious, I think I always over estimate my calorie burn on treadmills :(

    As the others have said - a lot hinges on your overall weight and fitness level

    But that said, a good rule of thumb that I've always used is about 100 cal/mile of running and about 50 cal/mile of walking or biking. So an hour of walking a 3 mph (ie 3 miles) using the rule of thumb would be about 150 cal for me.

    Again, that's worked for me...others may be different.

    I'm 23 5'9 145 lbs and walk on the treadmill daily at 10% incline some days an hour some days an hour and a half at 3 mph I don't hold on to the rail I hold a book or ipad in my hands, so I'd be burning 100 calories?
  • daniwilford
    daniwilford Posts: 1,030 Member
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    As an old lady with balance issues, I sometimes hold on. If I need to take a drink, mop my brow, or turn my head to check the clock, I hold on. I try not to make a habit of it, but holding on is better than falling off.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
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    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Does it burn more calories? Yes

    Are those numbers accurate? Probably not. Exercise machines - even those you input your stats into - tend to vastly overestimate calories burned.

    This

    I'd halve the burn

    And remember that if you hold on it doesn't count

    Do you think walking at 3mph for 60 minutes would really only burn 140 calories? Or are you talking only about the added incline burning 500 cal? I'm just curious, I think I always over estimate my calorie burn on treadmills :(

    As the others have said - a lot hinges on your overall weight and fitness level

    But that said, a good rule of thumb that I've always used is about 100 cal/mile of running and about 50 cal/mile of walking or biking. So an hour of walking a 3 mph (ie 3 miles) using the rule of thumb would be about 150 cal for me.

    Again, that's worked for me...others may be different.

    I'm 23 5'9 145 lbs and walk on the treadmill daily at 10% incline some days an hour some days an hour and a half at 3 mph I don't hold on to the rail I hold a book or ipad in my hands, so I'd be burning 100 calories?

    Ultimately - you'll have to use trial and error to come up with your own actual burns.

    Using MY rule of thumb (which may or may not really be applicable to your situation) - more like 150-250 calories in 60-90 minutes (based on ~ 50 calories per mile)
  • daniwilford
    daniwilford Posts: 1,030 Member
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    I have been told that walking at some incline is actually easier on the body, than walking without. The burn is higher and if it gives less chance of injury it is a win, win for me. I burn about 90 calories per 20 minute mile at an incline of 3.
  • Amberonamission
    Amberonamission Posts: 836 Member
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    As a severely sight impaired person i hold on to the rail. My jaunty booty says it does count.
  • mrsaniamanning
    mrsaniamanning Posts: 56 Member
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    I heard that 10000 steps burns 500 calories
  • pstegman888
    pstegman888 Posts: 286 Member
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    StacyChrz wrote: »
    Francl27 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Does it burn more calories? Yes

    Are those numbers accurate? Probably not. Exercise machines - even those you input your stats into - tend to vastly overestimate calories burned.

    This

    I'd halve the burn

    And remember that if you hold on it doesn't count

    Yeah I see all those people walking at like 18% while holding the rail for dear life and I'm shaking my head.

    This!
    It makes me crazy to see the people holding on. "That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works".

    Some of us do have balance or joint issues, you know. When I was younger and healthy, I could easily go without the rail. Now, it can really be a serious problem even at a slow speed due to balance issues from residual effects of a chronic condition that is not visible to the casual observer. Yes, I see the sidelong looks I get, but it's not worth injuring myself to save my pride. I still get a workout, I still burn calories, and it takes a lot more determination to keep going when you are dealing with daily pain and other things than when you aren't.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
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    StacyChrz wrote: »
    Francl27 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Does it burn more calories? Yes

    Are those numbers accurate? Probably not. Exercise machines - even those you input your stats into - tend to vastly overestimate calories burned.

    This

    I'd halve the burn

    And remember that if you hold on it doesn't count

    Yeah I see all those people walking at like 18% while holding the rail for dear life and I'm shaking my head.

    This!
    It makes me crazy to see the people holding on. "That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works".

    Some of us do have balance or joint issues, you know. When I was younger and healthy, I could easily go without the rail. Now, it can really be a serious problem even at a slow speed due to balance issues from residual effects of a chronic condition that is not visible to the casual observer. Yes, I see the sidelong looks I get, but it's not worth injuring myself to save my pride. I still get a workout, I still burn calories, and it takes a lot more determination to keep going when you are dealing with daily pain and other things than when you aren't.

    The point is that you would probably burn more calories at a lower incline without holding the rail. Unless you can't walk at all without holding it, obviously.
  • Jruzer
    Jruzer Posts: 3,501 Member
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    I found this calculator to be fairly helpful. It even gives references for the formulas it uses. Incline can significantly increase the calorie burn, but only if you don't hold on! This calculator agrees almost exactly with the treadmill I use, so much so that I think the treadmill may use the same equations.

    http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/walking-calorie-burn-calculator.aspx
  • mrsaniamanning
    mrsaniamanning Posts: 56 Member
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    Jruzer wrote: »
    I found this calculator to be fairly helpful. It even gives references for the formulas it uses. Incline can significantly increase the calorie burn, but only if you don't hold on! This calculator agrees almost exactly with the treadmill I use, so much so that I think the treadmill may use the same equations.

    http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/walking-calorie-burn-calculator.aspx

    That's the calculator I used =) but a lot of people on said it's inaccurate =/
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    Jruzer wrote: »
    I found this calculator to be fairly helpful. It even gives references for the formulas it uses. Incline can significantly increase the calorie burn, but only if you don't hold on! This calculator agrees almost exactly with the treadmill I use, so much so that I think the treadmill may use the same equations.

    http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/walking-calorie-burn-calculator.aspx

    That's the calculator I used =) but a lot of people on said it's inaccurate =/

    It explains:

    "Note: This calculator provides gross calorie burn estimates. If you want to convert the estimate to net calorie burn, memorize the number and click here. If you want to learn more about net and gross calorie burn, read the Net Versus Gross Calorie Burn article."

    Net is what most people will want.
  • mrsaniamanning
    mrsaniamanning Posts: 56 Member
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Jruzer wrote: »
    I found this calculator to be fairly helpful. It even gives references for the formulas it uses. Incline can significantly increase the calorie burn, but only if you don't hold on! This calculator agrees almost exactly with the treadmill I use, so much so that I think the treadmill may use the same equations.

    http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/walking-calorie-burn-calculator.aspx

    That's the calculator I used =) but a lot of people on said it's inaccurate =/

    It explains:

    "Note: This calculator provides gross calorie burn estimates. If you want to convert the estimate to net calorie burn, memorize the number and click here. If you want to learn more about net and gross calorie burn, read the Net Versus Gross Calorie Burn article."

    Net is what most people will want.

    My net is about 470 according to that, is that accurate? Should I use 400 or 200?
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited December 2015
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    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Jruzer wrote: »
    I found this calculator to be fairly helpful. It even gives references for the formulas it uses. Incline can significantly increase the calorie burn, but only if you don't hold on! This calculator agrees almost exactly with the treadmill I use, so much so that I think the treadmill may use the same equations.

    http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/walking-calorie-burn-calculator.aspx

    That's the calculator I used =) but a lot of people on said it's inaccurate =/

    It explains:

    "Note: This calculator provides gross calorie burn estimates. If you want to convert the estimate to net calorie burn, memorize the number and click here. If you want to learn more about net and gross calorie burn, read the Net Versus Gross Calorie Burn article."

    Net is what most people will want.

    My net is about 470 according to that, is that accurate? Should I use 400 or 200?

    I got 445 with your numbers, but either way 400 makes sense, because of the incline. It sounds high to me because it's more than I would burn running, but that doesn't mean it's wrong (and 10% is a good incline!). Like segacs said, the best thing to do is be consistent and then check results and adjust if necessary.
  • MommyL2015
    MommyL2015 Posts: 1,411 Member
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    I hold the rail. I don't hold myself up or put any of my weight into holding on but I tend to get dizzy if I don't. Hasn't made a difference at all but I underestimate what online calculators tell me I burn by about 50 calories for each mile I walk, which is less than half of what my treadmill tells me. I use 60 cals for a 3mph 3% incline and 100 cals for a 3.7mph on an 8% incline. Seems to be working well for me. I'm moving my legs and breathing hard, regardless of holding the rails so it's burning something. ;)
  • magtart
    magtart Posts: 161 Member
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    As an old lady with balance issues, I sometimes hold on. If I need to take a drink, mop my brow, or turn my head to check the clock, I hold on. I try not to make a habit of it, but holding on is better than falling off.

    This! I am also an old lady with balance issues and nerve damage in my left leg. I have to rest one hand on the rail to keep from falling off. Even at 0 incline and a slow speed I need to keep one hand on the rail.

    I fell off once and it wasn't pretty. Ouch!
  • BurnWithBarn2015
    BurnWithBarn2015 Posts: 1,026 Member
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    Jruzer wrote: »
    I found this calculator to be fairly helpful. It even gives references for the formulas it uses. Incline can significantly increase the calorie burn, but only if you don't hold on! This calculator agrees almost exactly with the treadmill I use, so much so that I think the treadmill may use the same equations.

    http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/walking-calorie-burn-calculator.aspx


    That calculator is not far off with my numbers. :)

    But OP it are all estimates.

    If you take my numbers which are a bit higher is because of my heart condition. It works harder than normal
    So i burn a bit more.

    for others maybe slower etc etc

    It is all about picking an average and work with it. Compare the data you get over months.
    That is how i worked it out.

    when you have a device that gives you high estimates and a calculator online a very low go towards the lower end.

    Best is btw for steady cardio to work with a HRM ( that is what i do) Still an estimate but the most accurate you can get.
    When you walk on a treadmill that have the options of putting in your data ( age, weight, gender) use it!
    It all helps but keep in mind all estimates...all of it.

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  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
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    segacs wrote: »
    Walking at an incline should, all things being equal, burn more calories. I'd question those exact values, though. Those websites are notoriously inaccurate.

    Actually, shapesense is one of the better websites for calorie burns, in my experience.
  • StacyChrz
    StacyChrz Posts: 865 Member
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    As an old lady with balance issues, I sometimes hold on. If I need to take a drink, mop my brow, or turn my head to check the clock, I hold on. I try not to make a habit of it, but holding on is better than falling off.

    These are all very valid reasons to hold on. My main issue is with the people who crank up the incline then hold on and lean back. It seems entirely counterproductive. I also hold on to take a drink or mop my brow.