Losing Weight with a Thyroid Condition

daniagirl68
daniagirl68 Posts: 12 Member
edited November 27 in Health and Weight Loss
I have a diagnosed autoimmune thyroid condition that generally should cause me to lose weight faster than normal, but for some reason, I am one of the few that is struggling with the opposite. My naturopath tells me that it is due to fatigued adrenal glands.

I have upped my cardio to 6 days a week, I watch my diet and journal like a mad woman and still find it not budging.

Has anyone else had this problem and what have you found that works for you???
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  • socajam
    socajam Posts: 2,530 Member
    As someone who do not have a thyroid and takes synthroid daily, I use to feel like that until I had my Vitmin D checked out, only to find out that it was extremely low. Once I started , my body did 180 degrees, I am different person.

    I also do calorie cycling - calorie intake is different every day. I did a test run from November beginning December and it really worked. First week I lost 3 lbs, never did that before. I have eased off because of the holidays, but once all this eating is over I will return in full form.

    Check out www.freedieting.com to input your numbers for calorie cycling.

    To really do calorie cycling Premium is better as you do not have to change your numbers daily. I tried Premium for a month because I wanted to make sure that it was something that I am prepared to pay for and I was happy with that aspect of it.
  • daniagirl68
    daniagirl68 Posts: 12 Member
    socajam wrote: »
    As someone who do not have a thyroid and takes synthroid daily, I use to feel like that until I had my Vitmin D checked out, only to find out that it was extremely low. Once I started , my body did 180 degrees, I am different person.

    I also do calorie cycling - calorie intake is different every day. I did a test run from November beginning December and it really worked. First week I lost 3 lbs, never did that before. I have eased off because of the holidays, but once all this eating is over I will return in full form.

    Check out www.freedieting.com to input your numbers for calorie cycling.

    To really do calorie cycling Premium is better as you do not have to change your numbers daily. I tried Premium for a month because I wanted to make sure that it was something that I am prepared to pay for and I was happy with that aspect of it.

    Thank you so much socojam for your feedback. I am definitely going to look in to Calorie Cycling. I struggle with Anemia and B12 Deficiency already, so I know I fight an uphill battle. Happy Holidays to you and yours. :)
  • neohdiver
    neohdiver Posts: 738 Member
    I have a diagnosed autoimmune thyroid condition that generally should cause me to lose weight faster than normal, but for some reason, I am one of the few that is struggling with the opposite. My naturopath tells me that it is due to fatigued adrenal glands.

    I have upped my cardio to 6 days a week, I watch my diet and journal like a mad woman and still find it not budging.

    Has anyone else had this problem and what have you found that works for you???

    Actually, if it is hypothyroidism (like Hashimoto's thyroiditis), having more trouble losing weight is fairly common. Thyroid problems is one of those things people blame all the time for how heavy they are.

    As another poster said - check vitamin D. Hashimoto's and vitamin D deficiency are very strongly linked (something like 95% of the time). If you haven't been checked for diabetes, also have your doctor check for that - another strongly linked disease - and another disease that may make you gain/have difficulty losing weight. (If you have diabetes, and start taking metformin, that may help.)

    I haven't had any particular difficulty losing weight eating a diet that is kind to my diabetes (triple whammy diagnosis: Hashimoto's, diabetes, and vitamin D deficiency). I've lost 20 lbs since diagnosis - at roughly the same rate as I have in the past - eating in a way that is friendly to my diabetes (low carb).
  • Cherimoose
    Cherimoose Posts: 5,208 Member
    See here for the most likely reasons for a lack of weight loss:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10179969/weight-loss-flow-chart-2-0/p1

    By the way, adrenal fatigue is not a medically accepted diagnosis. More on that here:
    hormone.org/hormones-and-health/myth-vs-fact/adrenal-fatigue
  • neohdiver
    neohdiver Posts: 738 Member
    Cherimoose wrote: »
    See here for the most likely reasons for a lack of weight loss:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10179969/weight-loss-flow-chart-2-0/p1

    By the way, adrenal fatigue is not a medically accepted diagnosis. More on that here:
    hormone.org/hormones-and-health/myth-vs-fact/adrenal-fatigue

    The borderline snarky comments are not helpful in a thread by someone who has been diagnosed as having a medical condition that is known to be a factor in weight gain/difficulty losing (as acknowledged in the bottom left corner of the first link you posted) and who is asking about weight loss in connection with that specific medical condition.
  • Cherimoose
    Cherimoose Posts: 5,208 Member
    neohdiver wrote: »
    The borderline snarky comments are not helpful in a thread by someone who has been diagnosed as having a medical condition that is known to be a factor in weight gain/difficulty losing

    She has hyperthyroidism, not hypothyroidism. ;) If she's not losing, it's probably due to one of the reasons mentioned at the first link.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    neohdiver wrote: »
    Cherimoose wrote: »
    See here for the most likely reasons for a lack of weight loss:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10179969/weight-loss-flow-chart-2-0/p1

    By the way, adrenal fatigue is not a medically accepted diagnosis. More on that here:
    hormone.org/hormones-and-health/myth-vs-fact/adrenal-fatigue

    The borderline snarky comments are not helpful in a thread by someone who has been diagnosed as having a medical condition that is known to be a factor in weight gain/difficulty losing (as acknowledged in the bottom left corner of the first link you posted) and who is asking about weight loss in connection with that specific medical condition.

    The problem is that this "diagnosis" (adrenal fatigue) came from a naturopath not a doctor so it is suspect.
  • neohdiver
    neohdiver Posts: 738 Member
    Cherimoose wrote: »
    neohdiver wrote: »
    The borderline snarky comments are not helpful in a thread by someone who has been diagnosed as having a medical condition that is known to be a factor in weight gain/difficulty losing

    She has hyperthyroidism, not hypothyroidism. ;) If she's not losing, it's probably due to one of the reasons mentioned at the first link.

    1. She did not specify hyper v. hypo. 2. The most common autoimmune thyroid condition ( the phrase she did use) is Hashimoto's Thyroiditis - which is hypothyrodism.
  • neohdiver
    neohdiver Posts: 738 Member
    edited December 2015
    earlnabby wrote: »
    neohdiver wrote: »
    Cherimoose wrote: »
    See here for the most likely reasons for a lack of weight loss:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10179969/weight-loss-flow-chart-2-0/p1

    By the way, adrenal fatigue is not a medically accepted diagnosis. More on that here:
    hormone.org/hormones-and-health/myth-vs-fact/adrenal-fatigue

    The borderline snarky comments are not helpful in a thread by someone who has been diagnosed as having a medical condition that is known to be a factor in weight gain/difficulty losing (as acknowledged in the bottom left corner of the first link you posted) and who is asking about weight loss in connection with that specific medical condition.

    The problem is that this "diagnosis" (adrenal fatigue) came from a naturopath not a doctor so it is suspect.

    The diagnosis was an autoimmune thyroid condition, the most common of which is Hashimoto's thyroiditis (hypothyroidism). That is a medical diagnosis, not commentary from her naturopath.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    edited December 2015
    How have you been treated so far for your hyperthyroidism?

    There's an excellent post in this thread:

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10279674/medical-conditions-which-affect-weight-separating-fact-from-fiction/p1

    (scroll down to the 12th post)

    explaining how people with hyperthyroidism can have trouble with weight gain due to metabolic issues after getting initial treatment.

    I would suggest, kindly, that you put yourself in the care of a good endocrinologist rather than a naturopath.

    It's possible that you might need to cut your calories further if you're confident that your logging is on point.

    But ... is your logging on point? Do you use a food scale? Do you verify that you're using the correct data base entries?

    How much of your exercise calorie burns do you eat back?
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    neohdiver wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    neohdiver wrote: »
    Cherimoose wrote: »
    See here for the most likely reasons for a lack of weight loss:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10179969/weight-loss-flow-chart-2-0/p1

    By the way, adrenal fatigue is not a medically accepted diagnosis. More on that here:
    hormone.org/hormones-and-health/myth-vs-fact/adrenal-fatigue

    The borderline snarky comments are not helpful in a thread by someone who has been diagnosed as having a medical condition that is known to be a factor in weight gain/difficulty losing (as acknowledged in the bottom left corner of the first link you posted) and who is asking about weight loss in connection with that specific medical condition.

    The problem is that this "diagnosis" (adrenal fatigue) came from a naturopath not a doctor so it is suspect.

    The diagnosis was an autoimmune thyroid condition, the most common of which is Hashimoto's thyroiditis (hypothyroidism). That is a medical diagnosis, not commentary from her naturopath.

    Considering that she mentioned her condition led to weight loss, I'd say the diagnosis is more likely to be Graves than Hashis.
  • neohdiver
    neohdiver Posts: 738 Member
    Considering that she mentioned her condition led to weight loss, I'd say the diagnosis is more likely to be Graves than Hashis.

    She said it "should" make it easier to lose weight (she is frustrated because she is struggling to lose weight - which is associated with hypothyroid, rather than hyperthyroid). Most of the references I find about adrenal fatigue are connected with hypothyroid, rather than hyperthyroid. Until she weighs back in, I guess we won't know.

    Whatever it is, though, she apparently does have a diagnosed condition connected with weight regulation - so the snark-chart is not helpful.

    (I do agree with your suggestion about seeing an endocrinologist - instead of, or at least in addition to, a naturopath).

  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    Yeah... I have a feeling as well that it isn't hypothyroidism, even if it is the most commonly diagnosed, based on the information given about how it is supposed to result in weight loss but she's unlucky and it is leading to the scale not budging. Would you feel comfortable telling us what it is, OP?

    In any event, I third the suggestion of going to a specialist over a naturopath to get this sorted out. Proper medication goes a long way.
  • riceflourde
    riceflourde Posts: 58 Member
    Grave's disease is an autoimmune disease causes hyperthyroidism...

    To the OP I would try to include toning and light resistance hyperthyroidism can cause muscle atrophy.
    Be careful with cardio if you are hyperthyroid you may already have a fast pulse. I don't know if you are being treated with a beta block already but if you have not already, check with your doctor about your increase doing cardio. He may want you to keep your pulse under a certain rate or not do it until your thyroid levels are normal.
  • riceflourde
    riceflourde Posts: 58 Member
    neohdiver wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    neohdiver wrote: »
    Cherimoose wrote: »
    See here for the most likely reasons for a lack of weight loss:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10179969/weight-loss-flow-chart-2-0/p1

    By the way, adrenal fatigue is not a medically accepted diagnosis. More on that here:
    hormone.org/hormones-and-health/myth-vs-fact/adrenal-fatigue

    The borderline snarky comments are not helpful in a thread by someone who has been diagnosed as having a medical condition that is known to be a factor in weight gain/difficulty losing (as acknowledged in the bottom left corner of the first link you posted) and who is asking about weight loss in connection with that specific medical condition.

    The problem is that this "diagnosis" (adrenal fatigue) came from a naturopath not a doctor so it is suspect.

    The diagnosis was an autoimmune thyroid condition, the most common of which is Hashimoto's thyroiditis (hypothyroidism). That is a medical diagnosis, not commentary from her naturopath.

    This is silly, when you see autoimmune disease and hyperthyroidism you should think Grave's not Hashimoto's.
  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    So it looks like some here have already seen the OP's medical records. Good to know.

    OP, are you seeing an endocrinologist? I would definitely recommend finding a good one. If you don't have one yet, I would ask for a referral, and maybe check the ratemd's website to find one that has good reviews. I've had good luck using that site before. Just keep in mind that more people are prone to look for review sites when they are unhappy than when they are happy, when it comes to all things.

    If you could confirm what type of autoimmune thyroid disease you have, you might get better advice. Good luck.
  • Cherimoose
    Cherimoose Posts: 5,208 Member
    Guys, the OP's profile says she has Graves' Disease.

  • shelleysykeskeene
    shelleysykeskeene Posts: 110 Member
    I have the opposite to OP. I've had Hashimoto's thyroiditis (hypothyroidism) for the last 6 years and take a medication called Eltroxin - I have to get my levels checked every 6 months so they can adjust the dose. So far they have upped the dosage only twice in those 6 years.

    I do find that if the dose is too low my bradychardia gets worse (I start fainting) and I do gain weight - but we are talking a kilogram here or there, not loads of weight. (The excess kilos come from me eating crap and not exercising enough - and I totally own up to that!)

    Luckily no diabetes here, blood sugar is always good and my cholesterol is alright, however I never knew about the Vitamin D link - I have heard people talk about taking it as a supplement but I am so skeptical about these pills, I think I had better add this supplement to my daily vitamins! Thanks!
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    edited December 2015
    I have a diagnosed autoimmune thyroid condition that generally should cause me to lose weight faster than normal, but for some reason, I am one of the few that is struggling with the opposite. My naturopath tells me that it is due to fatigued adrenal glands.

    I have upped my cardio to 6 days a week, I watch my diet and journal like a mad woman and still find it not budging.

    Has anyone else had this problem and what have you found that works for you???

    Lose the naturopath, work with your endocrinologist. I would not trust my health to someone taking my money to tell me I have "adrenal fatigue"! I am assuming you have Graves ? If yes, treatment might initially cause weight gain. And if I am not mistaken, it is possible to gain weight with Graves, because it also increases appetite. Talk to your dr.
    I also hope you have checked with your dr about how much cardio and at what intensity is recommended? Graves affects your heart and there might be exercise related limitations.
  • daniagirl68
    daniagirl68 Posts: 12 Member
    Cherimoose wrote: »
    See here for the most likely reasons for a lack of weight loss:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10179969/weight-loss-flow-chart-2-0/p1

    By the way, adrenal fatigue is not a medically accepted diagnosis. More on that here:
    hormone.org/hormones-and-health/myth-vs-fact/adrenal-fatigue

    My medical diagnosis is NOT Adrenal Fatigue it is Graves Disease. I journal and weigh all my food and journal everything that goes into my mouth. There is more involved with Thyroid Issues than you know. My Endocronologist has advised that it is very challenging and takes more work than the average person without Thyroid.

    I added the Naturopath on my own because what the Endo said wasn't getting me to where I need to be. Please don't be so hasty to judge.
  • gettinfabnfit
    gettinfabnfit Posts: 29 Member
    I have Hashimotos the opposite of you and I sent you a friend request as I'd like people with similar goals and health issues on my list
  • daniagirl68
    daniagirl68 Posts: 12 Member
    aggelikik wrote: »
    I have a diagnosed autoimmune thyroid condition that generally should cause me to lose weight faster than normal, but for some reason, I am one of the few that is struggling with the opposite. My naturopath tells me that it is due to fatigued adrenal glands.

    I have upped my cardio to 6 days a week, I watch my diet and journal like a mad woman and still find it not budging.

    Has anyone else had this problem and what have you found that works for you???

    Lose the naturopath, work with your endocrinologist. I would not trust my health to someone taking my money to tell me I have "adrenal fatigue"! I am assuming you have Graves ? If yes, treatment might initially cause weight gain. And if I am not mistaken, it is possible to gain weight with Graves, because it also increases appetite. Talk to your dr.
    I also hope you have checked with your dr about how much cardio and at what intensity is recommended? Graves affects your heart and there might be exercise related limitations.

    I do work with an Endocronologist. I have checked all that and followed all they have advised. It is frustrating. Medically I have done all I can do, and followed all I can. I am purely looking for alternative ideas at this point to help. I appreciate the direction but already noted.
  • daniagirl68
    daniagirl68 Posts: 12 Member
    I have the opposite to OP. I've had Hashimoto's thyroiditis (hypothyroidism) for the last 6 years and take a medication called Eltroxin - I have to get my levels checked every 6 months so they can adjust the dose. So far they have upped the dosage only twice in those 6 years.

    I do find that if the dose is too low my bradychardia gets worse (I start fainting) and I do gain weight - but we are talking a kilogram here or there, not loads of weight. (The excess kilos come from me eating crap and not exercising enough - and I totally own up to that!)

    Luckily no diabetes here, blood sugar is always good and my cholesterol is alright, however I never knew about the Vitamin D link - I have heard people talk about taking it as a supplement but I am so skeptical about these pills, I think I had better add this supplement to my daily vitamins! Thanks!

    THank you.
  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    aggelikik wrote: »
    I have a diagnosed autoimmune thyroid condition that generally should cause me to lose weight faster than normal, but for some reason, I am one of the few that is struggling with the opposite. My naturopath tells me that it is due to fatigued adrenal glands.

    I have upped my cardio to 6 days a week, I watch my diet and journal like a mad woman and still find it not budging.

    Has anyone else had this problem and what have you found that works for you???

    Lose the naturopath, work with your endocrinologist. I would not trust my health to someone taking my money to tell me I have "adrenal fatigue"! I am assuming you have Graves ? If yes, treatment might initially cause weight gain. And if I am not mistaken, it is possible to gain weight with Graves, because it also increases appetite. Talk to your dr.
    I also hope you have checked with your dr about how much cardio and at what intensity is recommended? Graves affects your heart and there might be exercise related limitations.

    I do work with an Endocronologist. I have checked all that and followed all they have advised. It is frustrating. Medically I have done all I can do, and followed all I can. I am purely looking for alternative ideas at this point to help. I appreciate the direction but already noted.

    Dania, how is your endo treating your graves? Do you know what your levels are?
  • daniagirl68
    daniagirl68 Posts: 12 Member
    neohdiver wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    neohdiver wrote: »
    Cherimoose wrote: »
    See here for the most likely reasons for a lack of weight loss:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10179969/weight-loss-flow-chart-2-0/p1

    By the way, adrenal fatigue is not a medically accepted diagnosis. More on that here:
    hormone.org/hormones-and-health/myth-vs-fact/adrenal-fatigue

    The borderline snarky comments are not helpful in a thread by someone who has been diagnosed as having a medical condition that is known to be a factor in weight gain/difficulty losing (as acknowledged in the bottom left corner of the first link you posted) and who is asking about weight loss in connection with that specific medical condition.

    The problem is that this "diagnosis" (adrenal fatigue) came from a naturopath not a doctor so it is suspect.

    The diagnosis was an autoimmune thyroid condition, the most common of which is Hashimoto's thyroiditis (hypothyroidism). That is a medical diagnosis, not commentary from her naturopath.

    This is silly, when you see autoimmune disease and hyperthyroidism you should think Grave's not Hashimoto's.

    I do have a medical diagnosis from an Endocronologist for Graves. I have since seen a naturopath due to lack of assistance from my endo regarding weight.
  • tlonganeck
    tlonganeck Posts: 3 Member
    edited December 2015
    I have no thyroid now (radioactively removed) I struggle with the weight but just saw my dr and yes was told it will be a longer road to travel because of this. But at the same time found out vitamin D level were low and now taking a supplement for that. Its been two weeks I am am starting to see the needle move as for the last 12 even working out with a personal trainer it move up 5 lbs... wrong direction. but after this last two weeks it move to where I started and only hoping it will continue to move downward now... but wondering if I am still not doing the correct amount of strength/condition to cardio ratio...
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    Dania, how long have you been in treatment for your Graves? Do you know your current levels?
  • daniagirl68
    daniagirl68 Posts: 12 Member
    Grave's disease is an autoimmune disease causes hyperthyroidism...

    To the OP I would try to include toning and light resistance hyperthyroidism can cause muscle atrophy.
    Be careful with cardio if you are hyperthyroid you may already have a fast pulse. I don't know if you are being treated with a beta block already but if you have not already, check with your doctor about your increase doing cardio. He may want you to keep your pulse under a certain rate or not do it until your thyroid levels are normal.

    Thank you. Yes I was under medical restriction for several months due to fast heart rate. I was cleared in September. I started out with light exercise and now back up to full workouts. I monitor my heart rate to keep it under 160 at my high peak. I have increased my cardio to an hour three times a week and 35 min three times a week, in addition to three days of weight lifting. Dealing with a Thyroid Condition really is a huge difference than without, and unless you have managed one...people should not comment. I even tell my husband that. I live on less than 1200 calories of clean eating a day. I portion all my meals and weigh my proteins.

    I am not sure where Hashimoto's came in...I never said what it was. People and their assumptions really are too much some times. No offense to anyone.
  • daniagirl68
    daniagirl68 Posts: 12 Member
    neohdiver wrote: »
    Considering that she mentioned her condition led to weight loss, I'd say the diagnosis is more likely to be Graves than Hashis.

    She said it "should" make it easier to lose weight (she is frustrated because she is struggling to lose weight - which is associated with hypothyroid, rather than hyperthyroid). Most of the references I find about adrenal fatigue are connected with hypothyroid, rather than hyperthyroid. Until she weighs back in, I guess we won't know.

    Whatever it is, though, she apparently does have a diagnosed condition connected with weight regulation - so the snark-chart is not helpful.

    (I do agree with your suggestion about seeing an endocrinologist - instead of, or at least in addition to, a naturopath).

    see comments below thank you
  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    Grave's disease is an autoimmune disease causes hyperthyroidism...

    To the OP I would try to include toning and light resistance hyperthyroidism can cause muscle atrophy.
    Be careful with cardio if you are hyperthyroid you may already have a fast pulse. I don't know if you are being treated with a beta block already but if you have not already, check with your doctor about your increase doing cardio. He may want you to keep your pulse under a certain rate or not do it until your thyroid levels are normal.

    Thank you. Yes I was under medical restriction for several months due to fast heart rate. I was cleared in September. I started out with light exercise and now back up to full workouts. I monitor my heart rate to keep it under 160 at my high peak. I have increased my cardio to an hour three times a week and 35 min three times a week, in addition to three days of weight lifting. Dealing with a Thyroid Condition really is a huge difference than without, and unless you have managed one...people should not comment. I even tell my husband that. I live on less than 1200 calories of clean eating a day. I portion all my meals and weigh my proteins.

    I am not sure where Hashimoto's came in...I never said what it was. People and their assumptions really are too much some times. No offense to anyone.

    I would certainly ignore the jump to hashis. You will find that some people don't stop to ask questions first. It's the internet, after all.

    I think you will find that pretty much everyone replying to you in here though, has a thyroid condition. I am hypo, and my mother was hyper before she was treated, and the treatment made her hypo.
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