10k steps bleh

At the suggestion of other mfp members, I downloaded a step tracking app to my phone (before deciding if I should invest in a fitness tracker). I was pleasantly surprised that it matches the steps I've estimated for a long time : about 10,000 steps a day. But sadly this appears to only earn me a little over 200 calories (which matches my previous estimate). I also run 3-4 days a week but can't run every day. Id like to earn more exercise calories on non run days but I feel like I am taking every opportunity to walk already. Without exercise I'm stuck at 1200 for less than a half lb weekly loss. No thanks. I like my food. I'm going to have to figure out more ways to walk/exercise on my non run days!

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  • maasha81
    maasha81 Posts: 733 Member
    Do some HIIT or endurance workouts. There are a ton of them on YouTube
  • Colorscheme
    Colorscheme Posts: 1,179 Member
    edited December 2015
    How tall are you? ten thousand steps burns four hundred something calories for me, and I average 14k a day which is like, six hundred something, maybe even close to seven. I use a Fitbit. Your phones step counter might not be accurate.
  • kerivkennedy
    kerivkennedy Posts: 16 Member
    You can get the fitbit Zip pretty inexpensive. I find it better than an app on my phone since the phone app requires it to be on my body at all times, holding it in your hand will not count.

    The thing to remember with the fitbit is when it counts calories it takes into account your step based activity and your BMR. Which for someone like me, starting out its a more whole representation of what I'm doing (or not doing).
  • beemerphile1
    beemerphile1 Posts: 1,710 Member
    Counting steps doesn't burn calories. If what you are doing is causing a loss of 1/2 pound per week then continue what you are doing. If you want to eat more, you will have to find the time to get in more exercise.
  • Colorscheme
    Colorscheme Posts: 1,179 Member
    edited December 2015
    Counting steps doesn't burn calories. If what you are doing is causing a loss of 1/2 pound per week then continue what you are doing. If you want to eat more, you will have to find the time to get in more exercise.

    It's movement, and movement burns calories. The more intense the movement, the more calories you burn. Why do you think otherwise?
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  • beemerphile1
    beemerphile1 Posts: 1,710 Member
    Counting steps doesn't burn calories. If what you are doing is causing a loss of 1/2 pound per week then continue what you are doing. If you want to eat more, you will have to find the time to get in more exercise.

    It's movement, and movement burns calories. The more intense the movement, the more calories you burn. Why do you think otherwise?

    Movement does burn calories, I never said otherwise. Counting steps becomes an obsession for many and is not necessary, counting steps does not burn calories.

    Exercise should be a particular activity for the purpose of fitness. The steps you take in the normal routine of your day are calculated into your activity level and are not "exercise".
  • sllm1
    sllm1 Posts: 2,130 Member
    In general, I "earn" about 100 calories per 2,000 steps. Except, that you must keep in mind what you have your activity level set at. Sedentary takes 3,000 steps into account, so you can't start adding steps until you meet that mark. I set mine to sedentary and add anything over that. So if I get 10,000 steps, I would get an additional 350 calories (taking out the 3,000 base steps and basing the calorie expenditure on 7,000).

    If you have your activity level set higher, you would have to take more steps to reach that activity level before adding calories. Fitbit will automatically figure all of this for you.
  • Colorscheme
    Colorscheme Posts: 1,179 Member
    edited December 2015
    Counting steps doesn't burn calories. If what you are doing is causing a loss of 1/2 pound per week then continue what you are doing. If you want to eat more, you will have to find the time to get in more exercise.

    It's movement, and movement burns calories. The more intense the movement, the more calories you burn. Why do you think otherwise?

    Movement does burn calories, I never said otherwise. Counting steps becomes an obsession for many and is not necessary, counting steps does not burn calories.

    Exercise should be a particular activity for the purpose of fitness. The steps you take in the normal routine of your day are calculated into your activity level and are not "exercise".

    If movement burns calories, then so does counting steps. I don't understand why you're saying it doesn't. If you're taking steps, you're burning calories. I take 14k-15k steps a day and burn about six to seven hundred cals a day and that's my only exercise.
  • daniwilford
    daniwilford Posts: 1,030 Member
    My fitbit doesn't give me calorie burns for steps that are part of my activity level and when I enable negative adjustments will also subtract if I do not reach my activity level, a phone app will not do that. The motivation comes from trying to increase your steps and exceed your activity level for a number of minutes. I average 16,000 or more 6 days a week and have 100 to 150 minutes when I exceed my activity level a day.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Counting steps doesn't burn calories. If what you are doing is causing a loss of 1/2 pound per week then continue what you are doing. If you want to eat more, you will have to find the time to get in more exercise.

    It's movement, and movement burns calories. The more intense the movement, the more calories you burn. Why do you think otherwise?

    Movement does burn calories, I never said otherwise. Counting steps becomes an obsession for many and is not necessary, counting steps does not burn calories.

    Exercise should be a particular activity for the purpose of fitness. The steps you take in the normal routine of your day are calculated into your activity level and are not "exercise".

    If movement burns calories, then so does counting steps. I don't understand why you're saying it doesn't. If you're taking steps, you're burning calories. I take 14k-15k steps a day and burn about six to seven hundred cals a day and that's my only exercise.

    His point is that it's not the counting of steps that matters, but the taking of steps. I think he's suggesting she spend less time counting and more time moving.
  • Colorscheme
    Colorscheme Posts: 1,179 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Counting steps doesn't burn calories. If what you are doing is causing a loss of 1/2 pound per week then continue what you are doing. If you want to eat more, you will have to find the time to get in more exercise.

    It's movement, and movement burns calories. The more intense the movement, the more calories you burn. Why do you think otherwise?

    Movement does burn calories, I never said otherwise. Counting steps becomes an obsession for many and is not necessary, counting steps does not burn calories.

    Exercise should be a particular activity for the purpose of fitness. The steps you take in the normal routine of your day are calculated into your activity level and are not "exercise".

    If movement burns calories, then so does counting steps. I don't understand why you're saying it doesn't. If you're taking steps, you're burning calories. I take 14k-15k steps a day and burn about six to seven hundred cals a day and that's my only exercise.

    His point is that it's not the counting of steps that matters, but the taking of steps. I think he's suggesting she spend less time counting and more time moving.

    Ahhhh, ok. I guess it wasn't clear to me. I assume someone who is counting steps is also trying to move more, because why bother otherwise?
  • jacklifts
    jacklifts Posts: 396 Member
    edited December 2015
    weight training? HIIT?
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    edited December 2015
    options
    1)walk faster
    2)vinyasa yoga/power yoga
    3)HIIT or some fun aerobic group class-social aspects can make it more fun or youtube videos
    4)zumba or other dance class
    5) spin poi or hula hoop
    6)bellydance
  • brb2008
    brb2008 Posts: 406 Member
    Yep I say add a YouTube workout once or twice a day. There is something for everyone, I promise! I enjoy pilates, the Barre videos, fitness blender, and Jilian Michaels videos.
  • lps1dragonfly
    lps1dragonfly Posts: 111 Member
    Caitwn wrote: »
    jaga13 wrote: »
    At the suggestion of other mfp members, I downloaded a step tracking app to my phone (before deciding if I should invest in a fitness tracker). I was pleasantly surprised that it matches the steps I've estimated for a long time : about 10,000 steps a day. But sadly this appears to only earn me a little over 200 calories (which matches my previous estimate). I also run 3-4 days a week but can't run every day. Id like to earn more exercise calories on non run days but I feel like I am taking every opportunity to walk already. Without exercise I'm stuck at 1200 for less than a half lb weekly loss. No thanks. I like my food. I'm going to have to figure out more ways to walk/exercise on my non run days!

    I'm a short woman with a small frame, so I feel your pain. I'm also a walker, but I feel I can only expect so much of a calorie burn from exercise. Increasing the pace of your walks to 'very brisk' (4.5 mph or a 13-minute mile) can burn nearly as much as jogging the same distance - if I recall correctly, a 140-lb. woman can burn almost 400 calories in an hour of walking at that pace, which is pretty nice.

    For higher-level burns I think you'll need to look into something like tabata classes or maybe kettlebell workouts.

    great info! I didn't know this. I am 5'1" and about 125 or 6#. I walk constantly at work and have began running 3x a week. I have Jawbone UP2 to track my steps and exercise (it syncs here and give me negative adjustments on m calories).

    If you have time you could throw in another day of running if you want to eat more. Just a thought.
  • jaga13
    jaga13 Posts: 1,149 Member
    Thank you for your thoughtful responses. To answer a lot of questions -

    I am 4'11
    I am not looking for suggestions for different types of intense workouts. My running is the intense burn. But with a toddler at home, there are some days where our schedule doesn't allow me to run or do a strenuous workout. That's why I count steps to ensure I am at least staying somewhat active on these rest days.
    I was losing .5 lb per week for a long time and stopped 4 months ago. Exactly when I switched from a desk job to stay at home mom. I'm more active but have a hard time with the 24/7 access to food which I didn't have at work. I know I am indulging too often And am working on this. In the meantime, I'm using the app to ensure I'm at the very least not going backwards into sedentary (I'm definitely not)
    I'm aware that you can't count the first 3000 steps or so as mfp factors that in already. So I've recently been aiming to save about 100 calories a day to help counteract (can't figure out how to select negative adjustments through my phone. Might need to get to a computer).

    I realize that counting steps doesn't do anything. But it does motivate me to keep moving. I need to just keep squeezing in more steps. It's hard when my little one wants me to sit and play puzzles but there are a lot of hours in the day.
  • strong_curves
    strong_curves Posts: 2,229 Member
    jaga13 wrote: »
    Thank you for your thoughtful responses. To answer a lot of questions -

    I am 4'11
    I am not looking for suggestions for different types of intense workouts. My running is the intense burn. But with a toddler at home, there are some days where our schedule doesn't allow me to run or do a strenuous workout. That's why I count steps to ensure I am at least staying somewhat active on these rest days.
    I was losing .5 lb per week for a long time and stopped 4 months ago. Exactly when I switched from a desk job to stay at home mom. I'm more active but have a hard time with the 24/7 access to food which I didn't have at work. I know I am indulging too often And am working on this. In the meantime, I'm using the app to ensure I'm at the very least not going backwards into sedentary (I'm definitely not)
    I'm aware that you can't count the first 3000 steps or so as mfp factors that in already. So I've recently been aiming to save about 100 calories a day to help counteract (can't figure out how to select negative adjustments through my phone. Might need to get to a computer).

    I realize that counting steps doesn't do anything. But it does motivate me to keep moving. I need to just keep squeezing in more steps. It's hard when my little one wants me to sit and play puzzles but there are a lot of hours in the day.

    You may be eating at maintenance. Are you using a food scale to weigh/measure your food/drinks? Also you could be blowing your deficit by indulging too often.

  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    Counting steps doesn't burn calories. If what you are doing is causing a loss of 1/2 pound per week then continue what you are doing. If you want to eat more, you will have to find the time to get in more exercise.

    It's movement, and movement burns calories. The more intense the movement, the more calories you burn. Why do you think otherwise?

    Movement does burn calories, I never said otherwise. Counting steps becomes an obsession for many and is not necessary, counting steps does not burn calories.

    Exercise should be a particular activity for the purpose of fitness. The steps you take in the normal routine of your day are calculated into your activity level and are not "exercise".

    Say you set our acivity level to sedentary but then you walk 10k steps which most don't define as sedentary, does it make sense to count that as exercise or extra calories burned?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    edited December 2015
    Merkavar wrote: »
    Counting steps doesn't burn calories. If what you are doing is causing a loss of 1/2 pound per week then continue what you are doing. If you want to eat more, you will have to find the time to get in more exercise.

    It's movement, and movement burns calories. The more intense the movement, the more calories you burn. Why do you think otherwise?

    Movement does burn calories, I never said otherwise. Counting steps becomes an obsession for many and is not necessary, counting steps does not burn calories.

    Exercise should be a particular activity for the purpose of fitness. The steps you take in the normal routine of your day are calculated into your activity level and are not "exercise".

    Say you set our acivity level to sedentary but then you walk 10k steps which most don't define as sedentary, does it make sense to count that as exercise or extra calories burned?

    some of them...i believe even sedentary accounts for up to 5,000 steps. light active I believe is 5,000 - 7,500...7,500 - 10,000 moderate active, etc.

    if you put yourself as sedentary and count all of your step calories you are inflating your expenditure...up to 1/2 of them are already accounted for in your activity level.
  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    I'm only a little taller than you at 5'2" and a 30min walk I took today is 3940 steps/1.6miles and 267cal :neutral: I don't know why 10 000 steps would count as so few calories, that's very strange to me. Maybe my tracker is off, I don't know. But I very rarely hit 10 000 steps in a day, that sounds like it would be more effective!
  • Colorscheme
    Colorscheme Posts: 1,179 Member
    jaga13 wrote: »
    Thank you for your thoughtful responses. To answer a lot of questions -

    I am 4'11
    I am not looking for suggestions for different types of intense workouts. My running is the intense burn. But with a toddler at home, there are some days where our schedule doesn't allow me to run or do a strenuous workout. That's why I count steps to ensure I am at least staying somewhat active on these rest days.
    I was losing .5 lb per week for a long time and stopped 4 months ago. Exactly when I switched from a desk job to stay at home mom. I'm more active but have a hard time with the 24/7 access to food which I didn't have at work. I know I am indulging too often And am working on this. In the meantime, I'm using the app to ensure I'm at the very least not going backwards into sedentary (I'm definitely not)
    I'm aware that you can't count the first 3000 steps or so as mfp factors that in already. So I've recently been aiming to save about 100 calories a day to help counteract (can't figure out how to select negative adjustments through my phone. Might need to get to a computer).

    I realize that counting steps doesn't do anything. But it does motivate me to keep moving. I need to just keep squeezing in more steps. It's hard when my little one wants me to sit and play puzzles but there are a lot of hours in the day.

    I have a toddler, 14 months old and I do 5000 steps in 30 mins by walking when he's napping in the morning. Then the rest of it accumulates from walking around the house and doing a few thousand more steps while he takes an afternoon nap.
  • jaga13
    jaga13 Posts: 1,149 Member
    jaga13 wrote: »
    Thank you for your thoughtful responses. To answer a lot of questions -

    I am 4'11
    I am not looking for suggestions for different types of intense workouts. My running is the intense burn. But with a toddler at home, there are some days where our schedule doesn't allow me to run or do a strenuous workout. That's why I count steps to ensure I am at least staying somewhat active on these rest days.
    I was losing .5 lb per week for a long time and stopped 4 months ago. Exactly when I switched from a desk job to stay at home mom. I'm more active but have a hard time with the 24/7 access to food which I didn't have at work. I know I am indulging too often And am working on this. In the meantime, I'm using the app to ensure I'm at the very least not going backwards into sedentary (I'm definitely not)
    I'm aware that you can't count the first 3000 steps or so as mfp factors that in already. So I've recently been aiming to save about 100 calories a day to help counteract (can't figure out how to select negative adjustments through my phone. Might need to get to a computer).

    I realize that counting steps doesn't do anything. But it does motivate me to keep moving. I need to just keep squeezing in more steps. It's hard when my little one wants me to sit and play puzzles but there are a lot of hours in the day.

    You may be eating at maintenance. Are you using a food scale to weigh/measure your food/drinks? Also you could be blowing your deficit by indulging too often.
    jaga13 wrote: »
    Thank you for your thoughtful responses. To answer a lot of questions -

    I am 4'11
    I am not looking for suggestions for different types of intense workouts. My running is the intense burn. But with a toddler at home, there are some days where our schedule doesn't allow me to run or do a strenuous workout. That's why I count steps to ensure I am at least staying somewhat active on these rest days.
    I was losing .5 lb per week for a long time and stopped 4 months ago. Exactly when I switched from a desk job to stay at home mom. I'm more active but have a hard time with the 24/7 access to food which I didn't have at work. I know I am indulging too often And am working on this. In the meantime, I'm using the app to ensure I'm at the very least not going backwards into sedentary (I'm definitely not)
    I'm aware that you can't count the first 3000 steps or so as mfp factors that in already. So I've recently been aiming to save about 100 calories a day to help counteract (can't figure out how to select negative adjustments through my phone. Might need to get to a computer).

    I realize that counting steps doesn't do anything. But it does motivate me to keep moving. I need to just keep squeezing in more steps. It's hard when my little one wants me to sit and play puzzles but there are a lot of hours in the day.

    You may be eating at maintenance. Are you using a food scale to weigh/measure your food/drinks? Also you could be blowing your deficit by indulging too often.
    jaga13 wrote: »
    Thank you for your thoughtful responses. To answer a lot of questions -

    I am 4'11
    I am not looking for suggestions for different types of intense workouts. My running is the intense burn. But with a toddler at home, there are some days where our schedule doesn't allow me to run or do a strenuous workout. That's why I count steps to ensure I am at least staying somewhat active on these rest days.
    I was losing .5 lb per week for a long time and stopped 4 months ago. Exactly when I switched from a desk job to stay at home mom. I'm more active but have a hard time with the 24/7 access to food which I didn't have at work. I know I am indulging too often And am working on this. In the meantime, I'm using the app to ensure I'm at the very least not going backwards into sedentary (I'm definitely not)
    I'm aware that you can't count the first 3000 steps or so as mfp factors that in already. So I've recently been aiming to save about 100 calories a day to help counteract (can't figure out how to select negative adjustments through my phone. Might need to get to a computer).

    I realize that counting steps doesn't do anything. But it does motivate me to keep moving. I need to just keep squeezing in more steps. It's hard when my little one wants me to sit and play puzzles but there are a lot of hours in the day.

    You may be eating at maintenance. Are you using a food scale to weigh/measure your food/drinks? Also you could be blowing your deficit by indulging too often.

    Yes, of course I am balancing out to about maintenance. I am perfectly aware of that aspect. The last few weeks have been better. I lost weight after that Long stall. I probably won't see a loss this week.
  • jaga13
    jaga13 Posts: 1,149 Member
    kae612 wrote: »
    I'm only a little taller than you at 5'2" and a 30min walk I took today is 3940 steps/1.6miles and 267cal :neutral: I don't know why 10 000 steps would count as so few calories, that's very strange to me. Maybe my tracker is off, I don't know. But I very rarely hit 10 000 steps in a day, that sounds like it would be more effective!

    I think the steps are slow since it's not intentional walking? I'm pretty sure I burn way more calories when I go outside or in the treadmill for a walk. But the pacing around the house must be a lot slower?

    I'm also close to goal so that might be part of it.
  • jaga13
    jaga13 Posts: 1,149 Member
    jaga13 wrote: »
    Thank you for your thoughtful responses. To answer a lot of questions -

    I am 4'11
    I am not looking for suggestions for different types of intense workouts. My running is the intense burn. But with a toddler at home, there are some days where our schedule doesn't allow me to run or do a strenuous workout. That's why I count steps to ensure I am at least staying somewhat active on these rest days.
    I was losing .5 lb per week for a long time and stopped 4 months ago. Exactly when I switched from a desk job to stay at home mom. I'm more active but have a hard time with the 24/7 access to food which I didn't have at work. I know I am indulging too often And am working on this. In the meantime, I'm using the app to ensure I'm at the very least not going backwards into sedentary (I'm definitely not)
    I'm aware that you can't count the first 3000 steps or so as mfp factors that in already. So I've recently been aiming to save about 100 calories a day to help counteract (can't figure out how to select negative adjustments through my phone. Might need to get to a computer).

    I realize that counting steps doesn't do anything. But it does motivate me to keep moving. I need to just keep squeezing in more steps. It's hard when my little one wants me to sit and play puzzles but there are a lot of hours in the day.

    I have a toddler, 14 months old and I do 5000 steps in 30 mins by walking when he's napping in the morning. Then the rest of it accumulates from walking around the house and doing a few thousand more steps while he takes an afternoon nap.

    How many total steps do you take? I get most of it done in the morning doing chores. 10k isn't too hard for me but I probably should aim for a few thousand more. Might require more walking during her nap time.

    Do you walk on a treadmill at nap ones or just around the house? I'll sometimes pace or March while I'm watching tv during her nap.
  • Colorscheme
    Colorscheme Posts: 1,179 Member
    jaga13 wrote: »
    jaga13 wrote: »
    Thank you for your thoughtful responses. To answer a lot of questions -

    I am 4'11
    I am not looking for suggestions for different types of intense workouts. My running is the intense burn. But with a toddler at home, there are some days where our schedule doesn't allow me to run or do a strenuous workout. That's why I count steps to ensure I am at least staying somewhat active on these rest days.
    I was losing .5 lb per week for a long time and stopped 4 months ago. Exactly when I switched from a desk job to stay at home mom. I'm more active but have a hard time with the 24/7 access to food which I didn't have at work. I know I am indulging too often And am working on this. In the meantime, I'm using the app to ensure I'm at the very least not going backwards into sedentary (I'm definitely not)
    I'm aware that you can't count the first 3000 steps or so as mfp factors that in already. So I've recently been aiming to save about 100 calories a day to help counteract (can't figure out how to select negative adjustments through my phone. Might need to get to a computer).

    I realize that counting steps doesn't do anything. But it does motivate me to keep moving. I need to just keep squeezing in more steps. It's hard when my little one wants me to sit and play puzzles but there are a lot of hours in the day.

    I have a toddler, 14 months old and I do 5000 steps in 30 mins by walking when he's napping in the morning. Then the rest of it accumulates from walking around the house and doing a few thousand more steps while he takes an afternoon nap.

    How many total steps do you take? I get most of it done in the morning doing chores. 10k isn't too hard for me but I probably should aim for a few thousand more. Might require more walking during her nap time.

    Do you walk on a treadmill at nap ones or just around the house? I'll sometimes pace or March while I'm watching tv during her nap.

    I take 14k-16k steps per day, now that I'm healing from my ablation and the chest pain is gone and my energy is back. I don't use a treadmill at all. What I do is 30 mins of Leslie Sansone's Walk Away The Pounds during my son's first nap, which is about 5k steps. Then I'll do another 5k in the afternoon during my son's second nap. The rest of the steps are from walking around the house because of chores, or watching my son.
  • jaga13
    jaga13 Posts: 1,149 Member
    Thank you
  • kiela64
    kiela64 Posts: 1,447 Member
    jaga13 wrote: »
    kae612 wrote: »
    I'm only a little taller than you at 5'2" and a 30min walk I took today is 3940 steps/1.6miles and 267cal :neutral: I don't know why 10 000 steps would count as so few calories, that's very strange to me. Maybe my tracker is off, I don't know. But I very rarely hit 10 000 steps in a day, that sounds like it would be more effective!

    I think the steps are slow since it's not intentional walking? I'm pretty sure I burn way more calories when I go outside or in the treadmill for a walk. But the pacing around the house must be a lot slower?

    I'm also close to goal so that might be part of it.

    Ahh ok, yeah being close to your goal makes it harder to keep losing, that's definitely what I've read on here. It still seemed like a shocking difference, but maybe that's it :) I guess maybe incorporating some other stuff I've read on here, like maybe jogging on the spot or walking quicker in the house, or doing squats in free time as well?