etiquette rant
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Also, have a plan B in case at the beginning of the year your gym's equipment is occupied more than normal. Consider doing bodyweight workouts, isolation work (like flyes) etc.
IMO it's a good idea to be familiar with several exercises that hit each muscle/muscle group - both machines and free weights. If I'm intending to do seated cable rows but somebody's using that machine, I'll grab a barbell and do bent rows, or use the t-bar row, or supported dumbbell rows. If somebody's using the bench press, I'll go grab dumbbells and do DB presses (or flyes), or even go into the machine section and use the chest press machine.
It's good to have an established workout routine and stick to it as best you can - but it's not the end of the world if you have to change up an exercise every now and then. Your muscles aren't going to fall off if you do hack squat, leg press or split squats one day because the squat rack is occupied.0 -
Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
i curl wherever i want to curl. one person's dick move is another person's conveniently placed 155 pound curling barbell. if no one is using it at the time, i don't see where it benefits anyone to leave the space empty just in case some mute magically falls from the sky and needs to bench right that very second. if you think places to bench are limited, places to curl barbells efficiently and safely are even more limited. Most gyms don't actually have a lot of places to swing 8 foot barbells around that's not either in a walkway or in a station designed for something else. Even in a gym with an open floor area you'll have two problems. The people stretching or doing plyo will be annoyed by you dragging your barbell and plates over there and two, the people wishing to use the incline bench will be pissed that you stole their bar.
also, unless my gym is named Powerlifters Paradise, having four squat racks and only one flat bench is an incredibly poorly equipped gym if normal people with normal lifting patterns are going there. Mondays after work have to be a nightmare.
Lmao. You actually just described my gym - three power racks, a squat rack, and a combination bench/squat rack. Except it works beautifully most of the time, because the squat rack is for curling and ohp/push press and everyone can actually ask to work in or how many sets are left. That and we all know how to drag a bench over to a power rack to bench in there.
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Larissa_NY wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
If you don't educate the noobs on gym etiquette you'll end up in a self-fulfilling cycle of them not following gym etiquette.
That's an interesting perspective, and a useful one for gym owners, since it will lead me to use my workout time paying them so I can do Noob Education, instead of the other way around. But it doesn't in any way address my point, which is that it's completely reasonable to be annoyed at a voting adult who doesn't have enough self-awareness to realize that he's taking up the one set of dedicated bench press equipment in a crowded gym to do things that aren't bench pressing, and people shouldn't actually have to be obligated to ask him to stop doing it so they can bench.
So you find a gym that's convenient to your work or home, the price is right, the equipment is right, and it's clean and all that. Hit sign up and see someone doing curls where you don't believe curls should be done......Aaaaaaand instead of using your words you air that gym and go to a much less convenient gym. Or poorly equipped. Or more expensive.
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Larissa_NY wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
i curl wherever i want to curl. one person's dick move is another person's conveniently placed 155 pound curling barbell. if no one is using it at the time, i don't see where it benefits anyone to leave the space empty just in case some mute magically falls from the sky and needs to bench right that very second. if you think places to bench are limited, places to curl barbells efficiently and safely are even more limited. Most gyms don't actually have a lot of places to swing 8 foot barbells around that's not either in a walkway or in a station designed for something else. Even in a gym with an open floor area you'll have two problems. The people stretching or doing plyo will be annoyed by you dragging your barbell and plates over there and two, the people wishing to use the incline bench will be pissed that you stole their bar.
also, unless my gym is named Powerlifters Paradise, having four squat racks and only one flat bench is an incredibly poorly equipped gym if normal people with normal lifting patterns are going there. Mondays after work have to be a nightmare.
I take it you work out someplace with a ton of equipment. You're lucky. Have you ever been in a globo gym on Mondays after work, or any day of the week after work for the last two and first three months of the year? No piece of equipment in the weight area sits idle. If you want one, you better have reflexes like Bruce Lee and watch it like a hawk so you can snag it out from under the last person who was on it. Especially squat racks and bench press setups. They're like gold. There is no time at which no one is using or waiting to use a barbell.
If you're in a place where there are few people on the weight floor or other places to bench, and you take half a minute of time and consideration to look around and determine that no one else is going to be wanting the bench any time soon, that's one thing. If you're in a crowded gym doing your non-benching thing on the only bench setup and pretending you didn't know anyone else was going to need to use it, that's a dick move, and the dickishness is in no way ameliorated by the fact that it's convenient for you. It was convenient for Martin Shkreli to jack up the price of lifesaving medications by thousands of percents too, and anyone who says it was therefore not a dick move is not someone who should be allowed to live around other people.
As an aside, do you let people work in while you're doing your curls wherever you damn please? Because the guy at my gym wouldn't let me work in. It probably wasn't convenient for him. Also, he was curling the empty bar, literally ten feet away from an entire rack full of curl bars at or over 45 pounds.
I've worked out in tiny hole in the wall gyms and in cavernous University find. What I've found universal is that if your want something, the best solution is to use your words and ask for it. That's pretty much the reason words exist.
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Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
i curl wherever i want to curl. one person's dick move is another person's conveniently placed 155 pound curling barbell. if no one is using it at the time, i don't see where it benefits anyone to leave the space empty just in case some mute magically falls from the sky and needs to bench right that very second. if you think places to bench are limited, places to curl barbells efficiently and safely are even more limited. Most gyms don't actually have a lot of places to swing 8 foot barbells around that's not either in a walkway or in a station designed for something else. Even in a gym with an open floor area you'll have two problems. The people stretching or doing plyo will be annoyed by you dragging your barbell and plates over there and two, the people wishing to use the incline bench will be pissed that you stole their bar.
also, unless my gym is named Powerlifters Paradise, having four squat racks and only one flat bench is an incredibly poorly equipped gym if normal people with normal lifting patterns are going there. Mondays after work have to be a nightmare.
Lmao. You actually just described my gym - three power racks, a squat rack, and a combination bench/squat rack. Except it works beautifully most of the time, because the squat rack is for curling and ohp/push press and everyone can actually ask to work in or how many sets are left. That and we all know how to drag a bench over to a power rack to bench in there.
Sounds perfect. I bet I'd love working out there
I dunno. Can you handle no mirrors?0 -
Larissa_NY wrote: »it's completely reasonable to be annoyed at a voting adult who doesn't have enough self-awareness to realize that he's taking up the one set of dedicated bench press equipment in a crowded gym to do things that aren't bench pressing
The OP said the gym wasn't crowded. He didn't wait nearby or ask to work in, he ran around the track. Case dismissed.
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Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
i curl wherever i want to curl. one person's dick move is another person's conveniently placed 155 pound curling barbell. if no one is using it at the time, i don't see where it benefits anyone to leave the space empty just in case some mute magically falls from the sky and needs to bench right that very second. if you think places to bench are limited, places to curl barbells efficiently and safely are even more limited. Most gyms don't actually have a lot of places to swing 8 foot barbells around that's not either in a walkway or in a station designed for something else. Even in a gym with an open floor area you'll have two problems. The people stretching or doing plyo will be annoyed by you dragging your barbell and plates over there and two, the people wishing to use the incline bench will be pissed that you stole their bar.
also, unless my gym is named Powerlifters Paradise, having four squat racks and only one flat bench is an incredibly poorly equipped gym if normal people with normal lifting patterns are going there. Mondays after work have to be a nightmare.
Lmao. You actually just described my gym - three power racks, a squat rack, and a combination bench/squat rack. Except it works beautifully most of the time, because the squat rack is for curling and ohp/push press and everyone can actually ask to work in or how many sets are left. That and we all know how to drag a bench over to a power rack to bench in there.
Sounds perfect. I bet I'd love working out there
I dunno. Can you handle no mirrors?
It's cool. I can always use my selfie stick to blow kisses at my biceps0 -
Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
i curl wherever i want to curl. one person's dick move is another person's conveniently placed 155 pound curling barbell. if no one is using it at the time, i don't see where it benefits anyone to leave the space empty just in case some mute magically falls from the sky and needs to bench right that very second. if you think places to bench are limited, places to curl barbells efficiently and safely are even more limited. Most gyms don't actually have a lot of places to swing 8 foot barbells around that's not either in a walkway or in a station designed for something else. Even in a gym with an open floor area you'll have two problems. The people stretching or doing plyo will be annoyed by you dragging your barbell and plates over there and two, the people wishing to use the incline bench will be pissed that you stole their bar.
also, unless my gym is named Powerlifters Paradise, having four squat racks and only one flat bench is an incredibly poorly equipped gym if normal people with normal lifting patterns are going there. Mondays after work have to be a nightmare.
Lmao. You actually just described my gym - three power racks, a squat rack, and a combination bench/squat rack. Except it works beautifully most of the time, because the squat rack is for curling and ohp/push press and everyone can actually ask to work in or how many sets are left. That and we all know how to drag a bench over to a power rack to bench in there.
Sounds perfect. I bet I'd love working out there
I dunno. Can you handle no mirrors?
It's cool. I can always use my selfie stick to blow kisses at my biceps
No no no. It's a benching gym. All about the triceps!
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Absolutely. Part of the reason I do well as a trainer is because unlike some newbie trainers, I can modify whatever current workout I have for a client if equipment I intended to use is in use. And they truly appreciate it because they get more options for variety that they may have never tried on their own.Also, have a plan B in case at the beginning of the year your gym's equipment is occupied more than normal. Consider doing bodyweight workouts, isolation work (like flyes) etc.
IMO it's a good idea to be familiar with several exercises that hit each muscle/muscle group - both machines and free weights. If I'm intending to do seated cable rows but somebody's using that machine, I'll grab a barbell and do bent rows, or use the t-bar row, or supported dumbbell rows. If somebody's using the bench press, I'll go grab dumbbells and do DB presses (or flyes), or even go into the machine section and use the chest press machine.
It's good to have an established workout routine and stick to it as best you can - but it's not the end of the world if you have to change up an exercise every now and then. Your muscles aren't going to fall off if you do hack squat, leg press or split squats one day because the squat rack is occupied.
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Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
i curl wherever i want to curl. one person's dick move is another person's conveniently placed 155 pound curling barbell. if no one is using it at the time, i don't see where it benefits anyone to leave the space empty just in case some mute magically falls from the sky and needs to bench right that very second. if you think places to bench are limited, places to curl barbells efficiently and safely are even more limited. Most gyms don't actually have a lot of places to swing 8 foot barbells around that's not either in a walkway or in a station designed for something else. Even in a gym with an open floor area you'll have two problems. The people stretching or doing plyo will be annoyed by you dragging your barbell and plates over there and two, the people wishing to use the incline bench will be pissed that you stole their bar.
also, unless my gym is named Powerlifters Paradise, having four squat racks and only one flat bench is an incredibly poorly equipped gym if normal people with normal lifting patterns are going there. Mondays after work have to be a nightmare.
Lmao. You actually just described my gym - three power racks, a squat rack, and a combination bench/squat rack. Except it works beautifully most of the time, because the squat rack is for curling and ohp/push press and everyone can actually ask to work in or how many sets are left. That and we all know how to drag a bench over to a power rack to bench in there.
Sounds perfect. I bet I'd love working out there
I dunno. Can you handle no mirrors?
It's cool. I can always use my selfie stick to blow kisses at my biceps
No no no. It's a benching gym. All about the triceps!
I take it all back. This gym sounds awful.
*takes off curling gloves and heads towards exit*0 -
Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
i curl wherever i want to curl. one person's dick move is another person's conveniently placed 155 pound curling barbell. if no one is using it at the time, i don't see where it benefits anyone to leave the space empty just in case some mute magically falls from the sky and needs to bench right that very second. if you think places to bench are limited, places to curl barbells efficiently and safely are even more limited. Most gyms don't actually have a lot of places to swing 8 foot barbells around that's not either in a walkway or in a station designed for something else. Even in a gym with an open floor area you'll have two problems. The people stretching or doing plyo will be annoyed by you dragging your barbell and plates over there and two, the people wishing to use the incline bench will be pissed that you stole their bar.
also, unless my gym is named Powerlifters Paradise, having four squat racks and only one flat bench is an incredibly poorly equipped gym if normal people with normal lifting patterns are going there. Mondays after work have to be a nightmare.
Lmao. You actually just described my gym - three power racks, a squat rack, and a combination bench/squat rack. Except it works beautifully most of the time, because the squat rack is for curling and ohp/push press and everyone can actually ask to work in or how many sets are left. That and we all know how to drag a bench over to a power rack to bench in there.
Sounds perfect. I bet I'd love working out there
I dunno. Can you handle no mirrors?
It's cool. I can always use my selfie stick to blow kisses at my biceps
No no no. It's a benching gym. All about the triceps!
I take it all back. This gym sounds awful.
*takes off curling gloves and heads towards exit*
Wait wait wait. I may actually be willing to pay to see someone wearing gloves. Do they match the rest of your outfit?
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Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
i curl wherever i want to curl. one person's dick move is another person's conveniently placed 155 pound curling barbell. if no one is using it at the time, i don't see where it benefits anyone to leave the space empty just in case some mute magically falls from the sky and needs to bench right that very second. if you think places to bench are limited, places to curl barbells efficiently and safely are even more limited. Most gyms don't actually have a lot of places to swing 8 foot barbells around that's not either in a walkway or in a station designed for something else. Even in a gym with an open floor area you'll have two problems. The people stretching or doing plyo will be annoyed by you dragging your barbell and plates over there and two, the people wishing to use the incline bench will be pissed that you stole their bar.
also, unless my gym is named Powerlifters Paradise, having four squat racks and only one flat bench is an incredibly poorly equipped gym if normal people with normal lifting patterns are going there. Mondays after work have to be a nightmare.
Lmao. You actually just described my gym - three power racks, a squat rack, and a combination bench/squat rack. Except it works beautifully most of the time, because the squat rack is for curling and ohp/push press and everyone can actually ask to work in or how many sets are left. That and we all know how to drag a bench over to a power rack to bench in there.
Sounds perfect. I bet I'd love working out there
I dunno. Can you handle no mirrors?
It's cool. I can always use my selfie stick to blow kisses at my biceps
No no no. It's a benching gym. All about the triceps!
I take it all back. This gym sounds awful.
*takes off curling gloves and heads towards exit*
Wait wait wait. I may actually be willing to pay to see someone wearing gloves. Do they match the rest of your outfit?
Just my purse man bag0 -
Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
i curl wherever i want to curl. one person's dick move is another person's conveniently placed 155 pound curling barbell. if no one is using it at the time, i don't see where it benefits anyone to leave the space empty just in case some mute magically falls from the sky and needs to bench right that very second. if you think places to bench are limited, places to curl barbells efficiently and safely are even more limited. Most gyms don't actually have a lot of places to swing 8 foot barbells around that's not either in a walkway or in a station designed for something else. Even in a gym with an open floor area you'll have two problems. The people stretching or doing plyo will be annoyed by you dragging your barbell and plates over there and two, the people wishing to use the incline bench will be pissed that you stole their bar.
also, unless my gym is named Powerlifters Paradise, having four squat racks and only one flat bench is an incredibly poorly equipped gym if normal people with normal lifting patterns are going there. Mondays after work have to be a nightmare.
Lmao. You actually just described my gym - three power racks, a squat rack, and a combination bench/squat rack. Except it works beautifully most of the time, because the squat rack is for curling and ohp/push press and everyone can actually ask to work in or how many sets are left. That and we all know how to drag a bench over to a power rack to bench in there.
Sounds perfect. I bet I'd love working out there
I dunno. Can you handle no mirrors?
It's cool. I can always use my selfie stick to blow kisses at my biceps
No no no. It's a benching gym. All about the triceps!
I take it all back. This gym sounds awful.
*takes off curling gloves and heads towards exit*
But...but they have a squat rack you can curl in!0 -
Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Iron_Miss_Canada wrote: »Larissa_NY wrote: »I just feel like someone should point out that the rudeness or inappropriateness of one person's behavior is in no way dependent on whether or not another person could have asked them to stop. Dick moves are dick moves; it's okay to be annoyed by them and it's unreasonable to pass the responsibility for that behavior off on the person who just wants to bench without having to educate every noob in the gym about something that should be pretty obvious.
i curl wherever i want to curl. one person's dick move is another person's conveniently placed 155 pound curling barbell. if no one is using it at the time, i don't see where it benefits anyone to leave the space empty just in case some mute magically falls from the sky and needs to bench right that very second. if you think places to bench are limited, places to curl barbells efficiently and safely are even more limited. Most gyms don't actually have a lot of places to swing 8 foot barbells around that's not either in a walkway or in a station designed for something else. Even in a gym with an open floor area you'll have two problems. The people stretching or doing plyo will be annoyed by you dragging your barbell and plates over there and two, the people wishing to use the incline bench will be pissed that you stole their bar.
also, unless my gym is named Powerlifters Paradise, having four squat racks and only one flat bench is an incredibly poorly equipped gym if normal people with normal lifting patterns are going there. Mondays after work have to be a nightmare.
Lmao. You actually just described my gym - three power racks, a squat rack, and a combination bench/squat rack. Except it works beautifully most of the time, because the squat rack is for curling and ohp/push press and everyone can actually ask to work in or how many sets are left. That and we all know how to drag a bench over to a power rack to bench in there.
Sounds perfect. I bet I'd love working out there
I dunno. Can you handle no mirrors?
It's cool. I can always use my selfie stick to blow kisses at my biceps
No no no. It's a benching gym. All about the triceps!
I take it all back. This gym sounds awful.
*takes off curling gloves and heads towards exit*
But...but they have a squat rack you can curl in!
Sure sure, and it all sounded so appealing at first but then IMC said I had to concentrate on my triceps instead of biceps. But everyone knows that it's "curls to get the girls" so that probably means what, "close grip presses to get the rest(es)?" It's cool if that's what a person's into but it's not for me so I'm taking my fushcia gloves and fabulous matching murse and going back to LA Fitness.0
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