Am I eating too much fruit?
rachfking
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i have been doing MFP for about two weeks now. I have 6 kg to lose to get to the top of my healthy weight range. I have lost nothing in 9 days, even though I am sticking religiously to tracking and not eating any processed food, sugar, alcohol etc. every day my 'sugar' is over the goal, sometimes by 50%! I'm having maybe 4 servings of fruit a day (in smoothies and as snacks) so this is the only thing pushing it up. Is this where my weight woes lie? Considering I used to eat a lot of chocolate and drink wine, and I'm not losing weight now I've stopped, this is kind of frustrating!
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Are you weighing your food in grams with a digital food scale?0
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Where possible yes, though I'm not weighing every piece of fruit.0
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In terms of weight loss, sugar doesn't matter unless it causes you to go over your calories. Eat healthy for health, eat less for weight loss.
Put your stats into MFP, give it the amount of loss you want, weigh whatever food you are eating and stay within that number it spits out at you.0 -
It's only been nine days! Patience.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10084670/it-is-unlikely-that-you-will-lose-weight-consistently-i-e-weight-loss-is-not-linear0 -
it's not going to be the fact that you are eating too much fruit that is hindering weightloss. It will be because you are eating more than you think. weigh your fruit...weigh and measure all of your food.0
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Thanks everyone. So weight loss aside, is the consensus that it doesn't matter if my 'sugar' intake goes way over goal (from fruit only) if my overall calories are at goal or below?0
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Eating fruit or not eating fruit has nothing to do with anything. Weight management is about energy balance pure and simple. You consume more energy (calories) than you require to maintain the status quot and that energy is stored in your backup power generator for later use...body fat. When you consume less energy than you require to maintain the status quot, that backup generator kicks on and you burn fat to make up for that energy deficiency.
You also have to keep in mind that weight loss isn't a linear process and the less you have to lose, the less linear it becomes. You aren't going to lose every single week...you're going to have weeks with bigger losses, smaller losses, no losses, and even scale gains due to natural body weight fluctuations. It's also normal to hit plateaus along the way. The formula for weight loss is overly simplistic compared to how our bodies actually process and work.
That said, if you've been more or less maintaining for several weeks you really need to evaluate the accuracy of your logging...are entries verified by you to other sources as more or less correct? Are you weighing and otherwise measuring where you can or are you eyeballing everything? Are you going overboard with "cheats", etc? Because if you've been maintaining for several weeks, you're eating maintenance whether you realize it or not.0 -
diannethegeek wrote: »It's only been nine days!
Thanks for that. Patience is not one of my virtues.0 -
Fruit is seriously the least of your worries! I always go way over. It's only been 9 days that's probably your issue, sometimes it can take your body a while to adjust and there are normal fluctuations that might be hiding loss. Again if you're not weighing your food though, make sure you start doing that! Good luck
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How much time do you spend on the John?0
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Eating fruit or not eating fruit has nothing to do with anything. Weight management is about energy balance pure and simple.
So basically the nutrition goals per day and the 'try to keep under x for sugar' don't really matter and I should ignore them? Or at least not stress out about them.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Eating fruit or not eating fruit has nothing to do with anything. Weight management is about energy balance pure and simple.
So basically the nutrition goals per day and the 'try to keep under x for sugar' don't really matter and I should ignore them? Or at least not stress out about them.
I don't log anymore, but unless they changed it, the sugar goals were for added sugars, not naturally occurring sugars. I never had a reason to even track sugar so I didn't...I don't really have a sweet tooth and don't eat much in the way of added sugars and don't have any medical conditions which would warrant tracking it.
I could see tracking sugar if I was someone who had a problem with it...so called "sugar addicts" and I was consuming copious amounts of sweets and washing them down with 40 oz Big Gulps every day...or if I was someone who was diabetic or otherwise insulin resistant, but I fit none of the above.
Too much fruit is too much fruit only if it's interfering with getting your other nutrition. Fruit is good and veg is good...and as a general rule I put more of a premium on veg than fruit...but you also need plenty of protein and dietary fat as well....so if it's interfering with that, then yes...it's too much fruit.
Personally, I stick to about 2-3 servings of fruit per day and 6+ servings of veg.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Eating fruit or not eating fruit has nothing to do with anything. Weight management is about energy balance pure and simple.
So basically the nutrition goals per day and the 'try to keep under x for sugar' don't really matter and I should ignore them? Or at least not stress out about them.
I don't log anymore, but unless they changed it, the sugar goals were for added sugars, not naturally occurring sugars. I never had a reason to even track sugar so I didn't...I don't really have a sweet tooth and don't eat much in the way of added sugars and don't have any medical conditions which would warrant tracking it.
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It counts naturally occurring sugars as that's pretty much the only kind I've been eating. But thank you, you have been very helpful.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Eating fruit or not eating fruit has nothing to do with anything. Weight management is about energy balance pure and simple.
So basically the nutrition goals per day and the 'try to keep under x for sugar' don't really matter and I should ignore them? Or at least not stress out about them.
Calories for weight loss
Macros and micros for health
Exercise for fitness
Patience for everything 0 -
I wish there was a 'like' button so I could acknowledge people's help without typing s whole reply to them! Consider your posts all liked!0
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Yes. Sugar is sugar is sugar.
Switch out two of those fruits for extra servings of non starchy vegetables.
Are you getting 10-a-day, fruits and veggies combined?0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »Yes. Sugar is sugar is sugar.
Switch out two of those fruits for extra servings of non starchy vegetables.
Are you getting 10-a-day, fruits and veggies combined?
sorry, but shes's not gaining weight from 4 servings of fruit, or even 4 servings of ice cream, as long as she is within her calorie goal.0 -
Look at fruits as natures dessert. I would go down to one a day, at least for a month. I'm sure you'll see a difference. No need to reply - I accept that like. 0
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Oh dear that is the opposite to what all the others' advice has been. Now I'm confused! Yes I am getting heaps of veges in there too. I am still staying under my calories, but do you reckon I should be getting calories from something else instead?azulvioleta6 wrote: »Yes. Sugar is sugar is sugar.
Switch out two of those fruits for extra servings of non starchy vegetables.
Are you getting 10-a-day, fruits and veggies combined?
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Oh dear that is the opposite to what all the others' advice has been. Now I'm confused! Yes I am getting heaps of veges in there too. I am still staying under my calories, but do you reckon I should be getting calories from something else instead?azulvioleta6 wrote: »Yes. Sugar is sugar is sugar.
Switch out two of those fruits for extra servings of non starchy vegetables.
Are you getting 10-a-day, fruits and veggies combined?
please ignore her "advice" - unless you have a medical condition there is no need to watch your sugar or sodium intake! fruit is NOT causing you to gain weight. are you staying within your calories? yes? then you are fine. give it some time.0 -
You always hear about that big loss that comes when you start--10 pounds the first week or whatever. I never had that, but 3 pounds a month (or whateve) will get you there!0
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Oh dear that is the opposite to what all the others' advice has been. Now I'm confused! Yes I am getting heaps of veges in there too. I am still staying under my calories, but do you reckon I should be getting calories from something else instead?azulvioleta6 wrote: »Yes. Sugar is sugar is sugar.
Switch out two of those fruits for extra servings of non starchy vegetables.
Are you getting 10-a-day, fruits and veggies combined?
please ignore her "advice" - unless you have a medical condition there is no need to watch your sugar or sodium intake! fruit is NOT causing you to gain weight. are you staying within your calories? yes? then you are fine. give it some time.
that. weigh your food. stay within your calories. youre fine.I wish there was a 'like' button so I could acknowledge people's help without typing s whole reply to them! Consider your posts all liked!
as a child of facebook, i too agree! lololol
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Oh dear that is the opposite to what all the others' advice has been. Now I'm confused! Yes I am getting heaps of veges in there too. I am still staying under my calories, but do you reckon I should be getting calories from something else instead?azulvioleta6 wrote: »Yes. Sugar is sugar is sugar.
Switch out two of those fruits for extra servings of non starchy vegetables.
Are you getting 10-a-day, fruits and veggies combined?
Fruit or any sugar ( or any other food for that matter) will only keep you from losing weight if you are going over your calorie goal because of it, and 9 days isn't long enough to draw any conclusions anyway.
Log and hit your calorie goal consistently for 4 weeks at least. Try to weigh as much of your food as possible, including fruits. If you still aren't losing after 4 weeks, then you might want to tweak your calorie goal down a little, and maybe cutting back on fruit will be the way you choose to do it.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Eating fruit or not eating fruit has nothing to do with anything. Weight management is about energy balance pure and simple.
So basically the nutrition goals per day and the 'try to keep under x for sugar' don't really matter and I should ignore them? Or at least not stress out about them.
I don't log anymore, but unless they changed it, the sugar goals were for added sugars, not naturally occurring sugars. I never had a reason to even track sugar so I didn't...I don't really have a sweet tooth and don't eat much in the way of added sugars and don't have any medical conditions which would warrant tracking it.
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It counts naturally occurring sugars as that's pretty much the only kind I've been eating. But thank you, you have been very helpful.
it counts them because the calculator is simple and isn't going to differentiate...what I meant was that the target number itself used to be based on the WHO's recommendation for added sugars...I don't know if they've changed that or not.0 -
Oh, and fruit is yummy. I eat lots of fruit and veggies, not because I should, but because I can either have a great big salad with both veggies and fruit and some chicken or I can have a donut. I take the salad for the same calories because it's more filling and I won't get hungry so fast. Don't worry so much about "shoulds" and all that nonsense. You'll find that the food that gives you the most bang for your buck, calorie-wise, also happens to be what people think of as healthy. Go figure.0
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Unless you have a medical condition that requires you to track sugar, change your diary settings to log fibre instead the sugar. Weigh your fruit and have patience, as others have said. If you're still not losing, check other things such as activity settings, exercise burns, and make sure you are using accurate food database entries0
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cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Eating fruit or not eating fruit has nothing to do with anything. Weight management is about energy balance pure and simple.
So basically the nutrition goals per day and the 'try to keep under x for sugar' don't really matter and I should ignore them? Or at least not stress out about them.
I don't log anymore, but unless they changed it, the sugar goals were for added sugars, not naturally occurring sugars. I never had a reason to even track sugar so I didn't...I don't really have a sweet tooth and don't eat much in the way of added sugars and don't have any medical conditions which would warrant tracking it.
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It counts naturally occurring sugars as that's pretty much the only kind I've been eating. But thank you, you have been very helpful.
it counts them because the calculator is simple and isn't going to differentiate...what I meant was that the target number itself used to be based on the WHO's recommendation for added sugars...I don't know if they've changed that or not.
Alas, MFP calculates total sugars, not just added sugars. But total sugars is what's on our labels here in the US.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Eating fruit or not eating fruit has nothing to do with anything. Weight management is about energy balance pure and simple.
So basically the nutrition goals per day and the 'try to keep under x for sugar' don't really matter and I should ignore them? Or at least not stress out about them.
I don't log anymore, but unless they changed it, the sugar goals were for added sugars, not naturally occurring sugars. I never had a reason to even track sugar so I didn't...I don't really have a sweet tooth and don't eat much in the way of added sugars and don't have any medical conditions which would warrant tracking it.
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It counts naturally occurring sugars as that's pretty much the only kind I've been eating. But thank you, you have been very helpful.
It's a rough estimate for all sugar based on the recommendations for added sugar plus a guess at how much sugar you otherwise are eating (coming up with 15%). IMO, if someone eats lots of fruit, veg, and dairy, that can be low, especially if one is at a low calorie level (I don't have issues now with my 1650 goal, but might sometimes if at 1200). MFP's problem is that labels don't separate between added and not, so they have to lump sugar all together, but I've yet to see anything credible that would require that all sugars be kept that low vs. avoiding going over 5-10% from added sugar. So a lot of people watch fiber instead. I like to watch sugar but wouldn't mind going over due to lots of intrinsic (non added) sugar, so long as I was also eating adequate protein, some healthy fats, and plenty of veg. Basically, if fruit isn't replacing anything else you need, causing you to be over calories, or leaving you hungry (I personally find fruit reasonably filling), then you are good.0
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