The real "secret" on how to lose weight

Annr

When you relinquish your evaluation process to another person or system (like Jenny Craig, weight watchers, HydroxiCut, bla blah) you begin to lose yourself. When you lose yourself, you are not able to be fully present in your life, and the world around you is robbed of your unique gift.

Now, (not spending my money on someone else's view on what to eat), I can hunt in my kitchen and gather what I truly wish for. There is a sense of pride in that act alone. I choose, I fix, and I persevere.

CoffeeNCardio

My problem with Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers and other premade diet programs is the removal of responsiblity. Or perhaps I should say the transference of tesponsibility. It's hard to log accurately in MFP all day and realize you're 600 cal over and you did this to yourself. You're responsible. You are to blame. There is literally no sane argument in which you can transfer the feeling of having failed to meet your goal that day (no I'm not saying one day should make one go all woe is me) to someone or something else. Check out a TOM thread in here, even other women won't support the hormonal hunger excuse, as well they shouldn't.

With WW, it's so simple and easy to shift the responsibility. I couldn't meet my goal today because WW doesn't have a number for this food. I failed because Jenny Craig is too restrictive, it's not personal enough, they don't know my frame size. It's not my fault. Clearly the program must be flawed... easy.

Part of the reason I love CICO so much is that it leaves no more room for nonsense excuses and rationalizations and false logic than does this forum. CICO isn't just king because it works, it's king because it's near impossible to blame grade school mathematics for our own shortcomings. Nothing wrong with Jenny Craig, it is just CICO in disguise after all, but it's sure harder to say math is to wrong than it is to nitpick the frill and facia WW puts on basic CICO to make it look special.

snickerscharlie

Does Weight Watchers still do the fruits-and-veggies-are-zero-points thing?

zoeysasha37

Great post @ninerbuff

senecarr

The 90% of people regain comes from the cutting edge research of the 1950s based on giving overweight people a dieting pamphlet and checking their progress a year or two later.
We don't really know how many people maintain their weight loss. NWCR has interesting research about those that do maintain.

KristinaJeanPhD

snickerscharlie wrote: »

Does Weight Watchers still do the fruits-and-veggies-are-zero-points thing?

I just quit WW and came to MFP... Yes they do, and that is one of my problems with it. I lost 80 pounds on WW twelve years ago, kept most of it off for eleven years. This past year, I gained 20 back because I got lazy- stopped tracking, less active, more wine lol. When I lost the weight on WW, fruit wasn't 0 points, but now it is. And the new program is so restrictive. Sugar is bad, I get it, but sugary things are double the points that they should be now. The old WW basically made CICO fun, but now that everything is so skewed, it feels like another fad diet to me. I eat clean most of the time, and I am a vegetarian for non-weight reasons. I don't need WW to slap my hand if I want a 40 calorie fudgcicle. And I don't need them to allow me to eat hundreds of calories in fruit for free.