48 year old lifter want to hear the voice of experience

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  • smurfbus
    smurfbus Posts: 27 Member
    Omega 3 makes the blood run like cracy at high doses. I had to cut my omega3 usage down when my finger would not stop running when I measure my blood glucose
  • CasperNaegle
    CasperNaegle Posts: 936 Member
    I'm 47 be 48 in April. I lift heavy 5 days a week. Compound lifts mostly and as much as I can three sets of 6. When I get 6 I increase my weights. I think having to get rest is bunk and the old CNS overload is bunk too. Push your body and it will respond. All this is obviously assuming your doctors are telling you not to.
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
    awnurmarc wrote: »
    The first time I ever squatted or performed a deadlift was at age 46. I started a stronglifts/starting strength type of program about three months later. But I had a stroke October 10. Right side would barely move on the 11th. I'm only mentioning it to explain why I started over. On the December third I walked to my gym (not bringing my cane the first time no one would ask questions) and squatted and pressed just the bar. I deadlifted 65 pounds.

    I've made progress thus far but I'm starting to wonder if I will have to stop doing three days a week. I've heard that all older lifters have to get more rest. I have a 50 yr old woman friend who I'm trying to get a lift. So I was wondering if there are any older lifters Who do that kind of program. What alterations do you make, if any?

    You have two things going on

    1) Stroke recovery - that's a real issue and something you're probably going to need professional advice with

    2) Age issues - this is not such a real issue. Well, let me preface that, do all the right things: eat right, hydrate properly, sleep right, take soft tissue work seriously (as in schedule it like you would your lifting sessions) and you'll be able to lift according to any schedule you build work capacity for.

    As an example, you can squat everyday in your 40's (John Broz is in his forties I believe and has been squatting every day for 20 years and has no plans to stop), hell I'm in my forties and I might take a crack at squatting every day next year.

    Many people running RTS programming Bench 4 times a week, squat 3 times a week and DL twice a week - a lot of them are in their forties. Again jumping to that frequency will be tough in the initial adaptation phase (kill or cure possibly!) but once you've acclimatised and built the work capacity you'll be fine and will recover fine (as long as you are not doing all the volume, with all the intensity, with all the frequency - which if you follow someone else's successful programming won't be an issue).

    Basically run SL/SS until you can no longer consistently add weight according to the program and have run a few resets according to the program. Then you need to move on to more intermediate programming - your rate of progress will be different, the amount of volume you will need will be more and the structure of your program will need to reflect this. No one runs novice programming for ever because it stops working at some point for everyone.
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    smurfbus wrote: »
    Yup, I benched 270 raw/natty a month ago and now that I'm cutting it will of cource drop some. I'm 150 so that a good number for my age. Thank god we have muscle memory. When I was a teenager all we would do was play poker and bench, kinda sad.

    270 at 150 bw is good at any age. Great job.
  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    lkpducky wrote: »
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    I've been told by my sports doctor not to lift heavy or jog. He said after 40 years of age its just too hard on our joints, This is just a general thing he tells everyone over 40.

    My friends in their 50s, 60s and 70s who run with me in a marathon training club are thumbing their noses at him (a number of them have run upwards of 30 marathons).

    I am glad to see this thread (I recently turned 50).

    he's actually a very good well known sports doctor, but i think to protect him from liability or to be super cautious he just tells everyone over 40 that there are extra risks from jogging or heavy lifting, and he wont give his approval to anyone over 40. I told him i intend on still lifting heavy and jogging, and he just smiled and handed me some PT guidelines. Granted i was seeing him for a torn ligament at the age of 45 , so maybe there is something to his logic. In any event, i certainly don't jump around like a 20 year old anymore, i have slowed my pace, but i dont intend on not jogging or lifting heavy in the near future. Maybe when i'm 70 i'll suffer from arthritis from what i'm doing now, but i'll deal with that when the time comes.
  • smurfbus
    smurfbus Posts: 27 Member
    I also take glucosamine and MSM to help my joints. K2 and D help with the vains.

    One reason for some people not doing 5 times a week schedule is time. It takes a lot of time and for me it's better to just do two or three times but relatively heavy sets and squat and DL only once a week. Yesterday I did weighted pull ups with RM80%. First max chin up of 1*3 then max pull up of 1*2 then 3*2 and after that speed pulls with RM40%. Normally I would also do same kind of set with bench but those two eat each other out so this week I split those for two days and will do the bench today with similar RM80 system if my elbows feel fine after those pull ups.

    I also have misaligned SI joint (-->scoliosis) so sometimes I cant do DL as my feet would cramp/spasm. I got the same "you cant do weights" 10yrs ago when on RTG doctors saw my L5S1 had moved in. When I sit my other knee is almost an inch more forward so my pelvis is also tilted sideways. I used to have terrible backpain but now that my core has some real strenght I'm almost painfree and I haven't taken painkillers in three yrs. This is all because the pull ups I started doing and then moved to weight lifting after one year of only pull/chin ups.
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    edited January 2016
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    i'm gonna add my daring two cents in regarding getting a doctor clearance before weight lifting. I've been told by my sports doctor not to lift heavy or jog. He said after 40 years of age its just too hard on our joints, This is just a general thing he tells everyone over 40. I know my body better than my Dr who spends about 10 minutes checking me over and using "general info." I lift heavy and jog and love it and have no plans on quitting until my body starts telling me its time to quit.

    Personally, I would find another doctor that doesn't make blanket statements. Sure there are people over 40 that have issues that preclude these activities, but to say everyone is limited in this regard to me is not appropriate.

    When I had to go to the orthopedic specialist for shoulder issues, after he examined me, he asked what I wanted to be able to do. He said the treatment plan would vary depending on my goals. There were some things he advised me not to do, but it was based on his examination of my specific condition.
  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    i'm gonna add my daring two cents in regarding getting a doctor clearance before weight lifting. I've been told by my sports doctor not to lift heavy or jog. He said after 40 years of age its just too hard on our joints, This is just a general thing he tells everyone over 40. I know my body better than my Dr who spends about 10 minutes checking me over and using "general info." I lift heavy and jog and love it and have no plans on quitting until my body starts telling me its time to quit.

    Personally, I would find another doctor that doesn't make blanket statements. Sure there are people over 40 that have issues that preclude these activities, but to say everyone is limited in this regard to me is not appropriate.

    When I had to go to the orthopedic specialist for shoulder issues, after he examined me, he asked what I wanted to be able to do. He said the treatment plan would vary depending on my goals. There were some things he advised me not to do, but it was based on his examination of my specific condition.

    exactly, which is why i just wanted to point out that a doctor might not clear someone to lift, that doesn't mean that person can't lift. Find another doctor that will, or just go with what your body is telling you. I did tell my sports doctor my goals, and he did give me professional advice about perusing those goals along with his recommendation that i don't lift heavy or run, knowing he can't stop me.