Do you guys think it's ok to eat.......
Sandytoes71
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Do you guys think it's ok to eat one unhealthy meal a week or every other week if I'm trying to get my cholesterol down and improve my A1C number? I know I can eat whatever I want as long as it fits into my calorie goal for the day and still lose weight as that is how I lost weight before, but this time it's different for me. This time, i'm mostly eating to improve my horrible cholesterol and blood sugars (pre diabetic) and also lose weight. So, I've really turned my diet around and eat pretty healthy now. I started almost a month ago with lots of success, but I need to know if eating an unhealthy meal every now and then will keep my cholesterol from getting better. I'm wanting to eat chips and salsa and a taco tomorrow and am going to try to keep under my calorie goal, but I'm worried I will be screwing up my cholesterol and stuff. I mean, can I still be healthy and eat bad fats from time to time? I guess I'm looking for people who have experience with trying to get healthy on the inside?
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Its pretty simple
When you have a medical issue with a certain food group ( like carbs or salt etc) than yes it can harm you.
For me it is salt. So i can eat as healthy as i want but when i eat after months a high salt dinner i still rock my BP and chance of a heart attack.
I have a medical issue with salt. that wont go away...simple
This is for everybody personal of course.
My sugar levels were not good either 2 years ago, but they are good now and when i eat lots of sugar or carbs no problem at all.
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salt does that to you, but u say once your sugar problems were gotten control of, then it was ok if u occasionally ate lots of sugar/carbs? Ok, but I'm wondering how it would work with cholesterol. Do I need to be perfect with my diet until cholesterol is under control or can I slip up every now and then and STILL get my cholesterol under control?0
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You have to discuss that with your doctor Nobody can give you any advice because it has to be lab tested if it is good and stays good
I had tests done so i know I can sugar normally. When i eat far to much yes i feel bad for a day but it returns back to normal. So i dont eat much added sugar. But sometimes i do. Everything in moderation for me. Exept salt which i can not use.
The sugar i was just lucky is my guess or in time to not get diabetic. But like i said before only your doctor can help you there. No forum member here can see how you are doing/blood work is. Or give you any medical advice because that is what you are looking for. 0 -
btw when i lost most of my excess weight it got better and better. So in some cases the situation change. For your doctor to check that out for you personally when you visit him.0
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Sandytoes71 wrote: »salt does that to you, but u say once your sugar problems were gotten control of, then it was ok if u occasionally ate lots of sugar/carbs? Ok, but I'm wondering how it would work with cholesterol. Do I need to be perfect with my diet until cholesterol is under control or can I slip up every now and then and STILL get my cholesterol under control?
The dietary cholesterol has very little effect on blood cholesterol levels.
However, sugar and carbs in the diet have a strong connection to raised blood sugar levels. Do what you can for lowering the sugar.
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Do low-carb, under 100 grams/day.0
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The 80/20 meal plan (20% unhealthy) doesn't work for some of us. I'm one cookie away from my highest weight.0
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Rorschach says yes it is0
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Sandytoes71 wrote: »salt does that to you, but u say once your sugar problems were gotten control of, then it was ok if u occasionally ate lots of sugar/carbs? Ok, but I'm wondering how it would work with cholesterol. Do I need to be perfect with my diet until cholesterol is under control or can I slip up every now and then and STILL get my cholesterol under control?
The dietary cholesterol has very little effect on blood cholesterol levels.
However, sugar and carbs in the diet have a strong connection to raised blood sugar levels. Do what you can for lowering the sugar.
...but the A1C levels are not impacted by daily fluctuations due to what you consume in a given day etc...that is why it is used to monitor diabetes treatment adherence (and it Canada an the EU can be used to diagnose diabetes)....0 -
Consult you doctor0
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Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!0
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I don't think there is lot of colesteral in chips, salsa and a taco.0
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I have IBS and there are many sweets I can't eat. I'll have one serving a week, but it will still cause trouble for me. I know it will. So I'm taking medicine with me.0
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Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
So you really think i should eat some salty chips? or other salty foods even with a medical issue with salt?
Like the OP have some medical issues with other food groups. 0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
So you really think i should eat some salty chips? or other salty foods even with a medical issue with salt?
Like the OP have some medical issues with other food groups.
I'm just trying to help. If they have a medical issue with a food, obviously they shouldn't eat it.0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
So you really think i should eat some salty chips? or other salty foods even with a medical issue with salt?
Like the OP have some medical issues with other food groups.
I'm just trying to help. If they have a medical issue with a food, obviously they shouldn't eat it.
Than read
She stated in her comments she has horrible cholesterol levels so as sugar0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
So you really think i should eat some salty chips? or other salty foods even with a medical issue with salt?
Like the OP have some medical issues with other food groups.
I'm just trying to help. If they have a medical issue with a food, obviously they shouldn't eat it.
Than read
She stated in her comments she has horrible cholesterol levels so as sugar
If she's worried about her chol. levels, than cut out the meat, dairy, and eggs.0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
So you really think i should eat some salty chips? or other salty foods even with a medical issue with salt?
Like the OP have some medical issues with other food groups.
I'm just trying to help. If they have a medical issue with a food, obviously they shouldn't eat it.
Than read
She stated in her comments she has horrible cholesterol levels so as sugar
If she's worried about her chol. levels, than cut out the meat, dairy, and eggs.
Doctor isn't it?
Giving medical advice...nice and free
OP for your question you really should look into some lab work and a real life doctor and or a dietitian. It is different for every person. And only your doctor can look into this for you.
And to give an example of @OMP33 great advice...when i should do what he says...his words "Treat yourself a bit" would kill me.
I dont say that this is for you the same, like i said nobody can look into your medical stats. But sure it is a very bad and general advice. 0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
So you really think i should eat some salty chips? or other salty foods even with a medical issue with salt?
Like the OP have some medical issues with other food groups.
I'm just trying to help. If they have a medical issue with a food, obviously they shouldn't eat it.
Than read
She stated in her comments she has horrible cholesterol levels so as sugar
If she's worried about her chol. levels, than cut out the meat, dairy, and eggs.
Doctor isn't it?
Giving medical advice...nice and free
OP for your question you really should look into some lab work and a real life doctor and or a dietitian. It is different for every person. And only your doctor can look into this for you.
And to give an example of @OMP33 great advice...when i should do what he says...his words "Treat yourself a bit" would kill me.
I dont say that this is for you the same, like i said nobody can look into your medical stats. But sure it is a very bad and general advice.
No need to be rude when I was trying to help. Obviously if you have a medical condition with a food, you should not eat it. I never said she or you had to eat foods that are medically bad for you when I said "treat yourself". Maybe "treating yourself" meant that she could have that extra bit of rice or good food she was wanting. You don't have to be rude and make fun of my advice when I was trying to help.0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
So you really think i should eat some salty chips? or other salty foods even with a medical issue with salt?
Like the OP have some medical issues with other food groups.
I'm just trying to help. If they have a medical issue with a food, obviously they shouldn't eat it.
Than read
She stated in her comments she has horrible cholesterol levels so as sugar
If she's worried about her chol. levels, than cut out the meat, dairy, and eggs.
Doctor isn't it?
Giving medical advice...nice and free
OP for your question you really should look into some lab work and a real life doctor and or a dietitian. It is different for every person. And only your doctor can look into this for you.
And to give an example of @OMP33 great advice...when i should do what he says...his words "Treat yourself a bit" would kill me.
I dont say that this is for you the same, like i said nobody can look into your medical stats. But sure it is a very bad and general advice.
No need to be rude when I was trying to help. Obviously if you have a medical condition with a food, you should not eat it. I never said she or you had to eat foods that are medically bad for you when I said "treat yourself". Maybe "treating yourself" meant that she could have that extra bit of rice or good food she was wanting. You don't have to be rude and make fun of my advice when I was trying to help.
Well you are not helping.
You dont read into the comment. You didn't say maybe you said Treat yourself sometimes.
( and looking at all your other postings were you make a sport of arguing with pretty successful weight loss losers here at the forum I would say that you should read a bit more here and learn)
Just a general advice from somebody who done her bit, is a certified coach and nutritionist for more than 30 years.0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
So you really think i should eat some salty chips? or other salty foods even with a medical issue with salt?
Like the OP have some medical issues with other food groups.
I'm just trying to help. If they have a medical issue with a food, obviously they shouldn't eat it.
Than read
She stated in her comments she has horrible cholesterol levels so as sugar
If she's worried about her chol. levels, than cut out the meat, dairy, and eggs.
Doctor isn't it?
Giving medical advice...nice and free
OP for your question you really should look into some lab work and a real life doctor and or a dietitian. It is different for every person. And only your doctor can look into this for you.
And to give an example of @OMP33 great advice...when i should do what he says...his words "Treat yourself a bit" would kill me.
I dont say that this is for you the same, like i said nobody can look into your medical stats. But sure it is a very bad and general advice.
No need to be rude when I was trying to help. Obviously if you have a medical condition with a food, you should not eat it. I never said she or you had to eat foods that are medically bad for you when I said "treat yourself". Maybe "treating yourself" meant that she could have that extra bit of rice or good food she was wanting. You don't have to be rude and make fun of my advice when I was trying to help.
Well you are not helping.
You dont read into the comment. You didn't say maybe you said Treat yourself sometimes.
( and looking at all your other postings were you make a sport of arguing with pretty successful weight loss losers here at the forum I would say that you should read a bit more here and learn)
Just a general advice from somebody who done her bit, is a certified coach and nutritionist for more than 30 years.
You don't read either. The word "maybe" was outside of the quotation marks in that sentence. I stated, "Maybe "treating yourself" meant that she could have that extra bit of rice or good food she was wanting."
Also, I am a successful person who has lost weight too. I have lost 60 pounds.0 -
Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
No maybe here.....
And that was the comment i reacted at.0 -
But done here
OP good luck just see your doctor
Good luck and keep on going you can do it! 0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
So you really think i should eat some salty chips? or other salty foods even with a medical issue with salt?
Like the OP have some medical issues with other food groups.
I'm just trying to help. If they have a medical issue with a food, obviously they shouldn't eat it.
Than read
She stated in her comments she has horrible cholesterol levels so as sugar
If she's worried about her chol. levels, than cut out the meat, dairy, and eggs.
Dude...just stop.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Hey don't worry about eating a couple things outside your diet every once in a while, it'll keep you sane! If you're craving something, might as well just have a little bit of that craving every week or two. It's better than craving it, never satisfying the crave, and then binging on it! It's all about balance and what works the best for you in the long-term. In the end, it's just food and it'll get out of your body in a couple days. Just don't make a daily habit of it and you'll be just fine. Treat yourself to something nice every once in a while to keep you sane and to tell yourself you're doing a good job!
So you really think i should eat some salty chips? or other salty foods even with a medical issue with salt?
Like the OP have some medical issues with other food groups.
I'm just trying to help. If they have a medical issue with a food, obviously they shouldn't eat it.
Than read
She stated in her comments she has horrible cholesterol levels so as sugar
If she's worried about her chol. levels, than cut out the meat, dairy, and eggs.
Dude...just stop.
"CONCLUSION: Vegetarian diet was associated to lower levels of TG, TC and LDL as compared to the diet of omnivores."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17364116
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/70194590 -
OP, that's something you really should check with your doctor about.0
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OP, it depends on you. I know if I start eating stuff I shouldn't I have a really hard time getting back on track. It may be weeks or even months before I can regain control, so even one meal can be harmful to me. If you can eat an unhealthy meal and get right back on track without detrimental effects to your health, I doubt one meal once in a while would be a problem.0
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Cholesterol (except for triglycerides) is often cumulative, so is A1c, so in that regard one "unhealthy" meal once or twice a month will likely not affect the numbers by much. Take note that the closer to the test the meal is the higher of an effect it will have on your A1c, so to get the most accurate results if you do end up deciding to consume something "unhealthy", position it somewhere in the middle between your A1c tests. Keep in mind that blood sugar spikes can be dangerous even if it's a single incident. Since you are not officially diabetic yet, chances are your spikes are milder.
When I used to be pre-diabetic (no longer am after weight loss), I used a glucose meter to see how my body reacts to certain foods. You would be surprised how your body reacts to some things. In my case in average portions oatmeal and barley produced barely any spike, french fries and cookies produced an acceptable spike (I was happy about that) but rice produced an unacceptable spike (I was sad about that). I needed to play around with the portions of the foods that produced an unacceptable spike in order to make them acceptable again. What I considered acceptable was anything below 160 (preferably below 140) at 1 to 2 hours after the meal and a return to near normal (my normal) at 4-5 hours after a meal.
It can be a lot of work, but if there is something you really love and still want to include every now and then it's worth it. I usually did a 1,2 and 4 hour tests for any new food I was unsure about, and if it produced a spike within the acceptable range I tested again a few days later to double check the result, then acted accordingly.
Now of course you will want to discuss this with your doctor, they may have valuable input.0 -
thx guys and gals.amusedmonkey wrote: »Cholesterol (except for triglycerides) is often cumulative, so is A1c, so in that regard one "unhealthy" meal once or twice a month will likely not affect the numbers by much. Take note that the closer to the test the meal is the higher of an effect it will have on your A1c, so to get the most accurate results if you do end up deciding to consume something "unhealthy", position it somewhere in the middle between your A1c tests. Keep in mind that blood sugar spikes can be dangerous even if it's a single incident. Since you are not officially diabetic yet, chances are your spikes are milder.
When I used to be pre-diabetic (no longer am after weight loss), I used a glucose meter to see how my body reacts to certain foods. You would be surprised how your body reacts to some things. In my case in average portions oatmeal and barley produced barely any spike, french fries and cookies produced an acceptable spike (I was happy about that) but rice produced an unacceptable spike (I was sad about that). I needed to play around with the portions of the foods that produced an unacceptable spike in order to make them acceptable again. What I considered acceptable was anything below 160 (preferably below 140) at 1 to 2 hours after the meal and a return to near normal (my normal) at 4-5 hours after a meal.
It can be a lot of work, but if there is something you really love and still want to include every now and then it's worth it. I usually did a 1,2 and 4 hour tests for any new food I was unsure about, and if it produced a spike within the acceptable range I tested again a few days later to double check the result, then acted accordingly.
Now of course you will want to discuss this with your doctor, they may have valuable input.
I will try this, thank you!
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OP - If you don't mind, could you mention what type of diet your Dr. says is good for lowering both BG and LDL?0
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