Scale not moving? Not losing weight?
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no flow chart needed. not losing weight? eat less, move more. simple.
Sorry this isnt true my profile pic some weeks id not lose I weigh measure everything never cheated did tons exercise 12 cardio classes a week 4 gym sessions for weights 2 hours walking 6 days a week and C25K on 1500 calories a day so I was 100% not eating enough calories not to warrant weightloss
When you exercise a lot you don't always see it on the scales it's on the tape measure spent 28 years doing this and for us ladies there's many times we don't lose and we are 100% it's called hormones water retention
No way can you state if your not losing your not doing this right as I know I am
I've even done vlcd 600 cals a day replacement shakes that's it no food at all no cheating 12 weeks and a couple weeks had no losses.
You can't be saying things that aren't true also some people only have 20lbs to lose so will not lose every week bigger and younger you are the more you lose and more often been there done that many times.
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Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat. What weighs more, 100 pounds of feathers or 100 pounds of bricks?
Um, k. What?
So nothing weighs more than anything else. In the world. Because you can always have 100 pounds of anything equalling 100 pounds of anything else.
Obviously, when comparing weight within the context of normal conversation, we take volume into account.
What's your agenda when you decide to not consider volume? I don't get it...0 -
tomatosoup3 wrote: »Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat. What weighs more, 100 pounds of feathers or 100 pounds of bricks?
Um, k. What?
So nothing weighs more than anything else. In the world. Because you can always have 100 pounds of anything equalling 100 pounds of anything else.
Obviously, when comparing weight within the context of normal conversation, we take volume into account.
What's your agenda when you decide to not consider volume? I don't get it...
You'd be amazed at the number of people for whom this is not obvious. They will also be unable to either answer correctly or see the relationship to the bricks/feathers example.0 -
tomatosoup3 wrote: »Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat. What weighs more, 100 pounds of feathers or 100 pounds of bricks?
Um, k. What?
So nothing weighs more than anything else. In the world. Because you can always have 100 pounds of anything equalling 100 pounds of anything else.
Obviously, when comparing weight within the context of normal conversation, we take volume into account.
What's your agenda when you decide to not consider volume? I don't get it...
we are talking about the number on the scale which is a measurement of weight, not volume. Losing 20 pounds of fat and then gaining 20 pounds of muscle will obviously make you look better even at the same weight.0 -
no flow chart needed. not losing weight? eat less, move more. simple.
Sorry this isnt true my profile pic some weeks id not lose I weigh measure everything never cheated did tons exercise 12 cardio classes a week 4 gym sessions for weights 2 hours walking 6 days a week and C25K on 1500 calories a day so I was 100% not eating enough calories not to warrant weightloss
When you exercise a lot you don't always see it on the scales it's on the tape measure spent 28 years doing this and for us ladies there's many times we don't lose and we are 100% it's called hormones water retention
No way can you state if your not losing your not doing this right as I know I am
I've even done vlcd 600 cals a day replacement shakes that's it no food at all no cheating 12 weeks and a couple weeks had no losses.
You can't be saying things that aren't true also some people only have 20lbs to lose so will not lose every week bigger and younger you are the more you lose and more often been there done that many times.
http://www.acaloriecounter.com/blog/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/comment-page-2/#comment-358480 -
The sheer illogicality of some responses here will make my head explode. CICO works.0
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Please don't private me again0
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tomatosoup3 wrote: »Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat. What weighs more, 100 pounds of feathers or 100 pounds of bricks?
Um, k. What?
So nothing weighs more than anything else. In the world. Because you can always have 100 pounds of anything equalling 100 pounds of anything else.
Obviously, when comparing weight within the context of normal conversation, we take volume into account.
What's your agenda when you decide to not consider volume? I don't get it...
http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/weight-loss-plateau-myth-muscle-weighs-more-than-fat/0 -
diannethegeek wrote: »punisher532 wrote: »Muscle is denser than fat and takes up less space.....if you're losing adipose tissue and gaing lean body mass the scale may not move but the mirror should show you looking smaller and "tighter"
I think the point is that muscle gain is much slower than weight loss and not very common while someone is eating at a deficit. Someone whose weight has stalled simply isn't swapping equivalent amounts of fat for muscle every wekk. Muscle gain doesn't happen fast enough to offset the fat loss someone should be seeing. And they need to look elsewhere for the cause (generally either water retention, patience, or food intake).
yes! I am reading so many threads where people actually say that on a week to week basis the scale is not moving because they are losing fat and gaining muscle equally at the same time! Or their weight loss has stalled because they are in "starvation mode" and need to UP their calories to start losing weight again. It's incredible.
the thing is, we see the same threads on DAILY basis asking the SAME dozen things over and over again (sometimes by the same person!)
- im not losing weight
- does cico work
- does (diet fad) work
- do i have to eat back exercise calories
- can i eat under 'x' amount of calories
- are cheat days ok
- do i have to work out
etc, etc, etc
its part of forum life. when i get sick of it (and i do), i take a break from the forums.
sounds like it might be time for you to take a break LOL0 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »punisher532 wrote: »Muscle is denser than fat and takes up less space.....if you're losing adipose tissue and gaing lean body mass the scale may not move but the mirror should show you looking smaller and "tighter"
I think the point is that muscle gain is much slower than weight loss and not very common while someone is eating at a deficit. Someone whose weight has stalled simply isn't swapping equivalent amounts of fat for muscle every wekk. Muscle gain doesn't happen fast enough to offset the fat loss someone should be seeing. And they need to look elsewhere for the cause (generally either water retention, patience, or food intake).
yes! I am reading so many threads where people actually say that on a week to week basis the scale is not moving because they are losing fat and gaining muscle equally at the same time! Or their weight loss has stalled because they are in "starvation mode" and need to UP their calories to start losing weight again. It's incredible.
the thing is, we see the same threads on DAILY basis asking the SAME dozen things over and over again (sometimes by the same person!)
- im not losing weight
- does cico work
- does (diet fad) work
- do i have to eat back exercise calories
- can i eat under 'x' amount of calories
- are cheat days ok
- do i have to work out
etc, etc, etc
its part of forum life. when i get sick of it (and i do), i take a break from the forums.
sounds like it might be time for you to take a break LOL
you may be right!!!!!!!!
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I'm not TRYING to tell everyone. I AM telling everyone............scale not moving? Not in a deficit. Clear enough?
While usually the case, it is not always the case. There are instances where water weight can mask fat loss either because of starting a new exercise program, drastically increasing the intensity of an exercise program, for women if their time of month is coming, due to a large increase of sodium consumption, or for that matter due to other issues as well. Notice, none of those have to do with muscle increase, but that water weight will easily mask fat loss, and personal experience tells me it can be more than a couple of pounds. If I go off my BP meds I will gradually put on up to 10 pounds of water weight in a week. Once I go back on them, that water weigh comes off in a week. In that time there is no change in my diet, and my weight loss will continue once the water weight is gone. In fact, that fat loss was going on even while I was putting on the water weight.
All that is to say it is important to get the whole picture before simply saying a person is not in a deficit. It is perfectly fine to say that the weight gain or stall in weight loss is not because of muscle though.0 -
punisher532 wrote: »Muscle is denser than fat and takes up less space.....if you're losing adipose tissue and gaing lean body mass the scale may not move but the mirror should show you looking smaller and "tighter"
True as that is, it is not going to happen for women without the use of steroids, especially in a calorie deficit. Even for men it is far from likely. Muscle is very hard to put on.0 -
I personally think the flow chart is very helpful. We get people who join and think they are eating at 1200 calories, but are eating significantly higher. They're told to eat less, so eventually they think they have to eat 500 calories (when they are really eating 1200 calories). They start jumping into threads telling everyone that they only lose weight when they eat 500 calories or under and others use that to justify starving themselves.
If someone isn't tracking calories then telling them to start cutting down on portion sizes or reducing the number of meals they eat would be solid advice. Since this is a calorie counting site the flow chart helps people focus on things like normal fluctuations, accuracy, adequate nutrition and eventually potential medical problems. I love the chart because it teaches people a variety of information they will need during the process, more so than simply telling them to eat less and move more.0 -
I personally think the flow chart is very helpful. We get people who join and think they are eating at 1200 calories, but are eating significantly higher. They're told to eat less, so eventually they think they have to eat 500 calories (when they are really eating 1200 calories). They start jumping into threads telling everyone that they only lose weight when they eat 500 calories or under and others use that to justify starving themselves.
If someone isn't tracking calories then telling them to start cutting down on portion sizes or reducing the number of meals they eat would be solid advice. Since this is a calorie counting site the flow chart helps people focus on things like normal fluctuations, accuracy, adequate nutrition and eventually potential medical problems. I love the chart because it teaches people a variety of information they will need during the process, more so than simply telling them to eat less and move more.
good tip!0
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