OK Question....Im REALLY AND TRULY perplexed about this
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Ill try and do the readers digest version 
I have 4 Neurological disorders...well 3, and severe rheumatoid BUT STILL Ive been able to walk a good 2, 3 miles a day, if its too cold....in my room fall against the wall but I dont give up
I eat like a bird
Im a GURU on starvation mode, (how to avoid it)eating right, i dont smoke or drink, used to jog 5 miles/day...ride bikes, play basketball
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My question... I can STILL lift weights, not heavy heavy weights, DUMBBELLS(to stay toned) one day and cardio(best i can the next(walking, crunches, bicycle rows hands behind my head on my back etc) ok maybe the dumbbells are getting bigger...but STILL the DR TODAY said Ive GAINED 30 lbs in a MONTH!!! Theres NO EARTHLY WAY
I love my muscles, if i cant run anymore etc, by golly i still wanna look good BUT ....NOT at the price of weighing BAZINGA lbs again
I got up to 260 once, when I gave up (diagnosis) got off my butt, back down to 200 regardless of condition
i said 220 is my limit ill NEVER be 260 again EVER its not me never have been before
Anyway, today at the doc, I was TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY LBS last week literally 7 days ago at the doc I was 216!! My thyroids fine, all vitals are good....ok, not the readers digest version, my question, I dont want to, BUT IF I dont do ANY weights, just the cardio to see if thatll get me back down, do you think thatll be it?
That means ill lose my good looking muscular arms again, BUT I wont weigh ALOT either MAYBE thats all I know to do, do you think thats the problem?
I have 4 Neurological disorders...well 3, and severe rheumatoid BUT STILL Ive been able to walk a good 2, 3 miles a day, if its too cold....in my room fall against the wall but I dont give up
I eat like a bird
Im a GURU on starvation mode, (how to avoid it)eating right, i dont smoke or drink, used to jog 5 miles/day...ride bikes, play basketball
Subscribe to ALL the fitness mags, men and womens!!
My question... I can STILL lift weights, not heavy heavy weights, DUMBBELLS(to stay toned) one day and cardio(best i can the next(walking, crunches, bicycle rows hands behind my head on my back etc) ok maybe the dumbbells are getting bigger...but STILL the DR TODAY said Ive GAINED 30 lbs in a MONTH!!! Theres NO EARTHLY WAY
I love my muscles, if i cant run anymore etc, by golly i still wanna look good BUT ....NOT at the price of weighing BAZINGA lbs again
I got up to 260 once, when I gave up (diagnosis) got off my butt, back down to 200 regardless of condition
i said 220 is my limit ill NEVER be 260 again EVER its not me never have been before
Anyway, today at the doc, I was TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY LBS last week literally 7 days ago at the doc I was 216!! My thyroids fine, all vitals are good....ok, not the readers digest version,
my question, I dont want to, BUT IF I dont do ANY weights, just the cardio to see if thatll get me back down, do you think thatll be it?That means ill lose my good looking muscular arms again, BUT I wont weigh ALOT either MAYBE thats all I know to do, do you think thats the problem?
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Are you saying you think you gained 30 lbs in muscle? If that's what you are saying the answer is no.0
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Lifting weights or cardio isn't the problem. It's your calorie intake. If you're gaining weight, then you're eating too many calories.0
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Did the dr give any advice? Is it related to one of your disorders? Do you think the scale is wrong? 30 lbs in a month Seems like a lot. Is there any more to the story?0
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http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300319/most-helpful-posts-general-diet-and-weight-loss-help-must-reads#latest
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Are you claiming to have gained 30 lbs of muscle in a month while eating like a bird and using dumbbells ?
Exactly how many calories are you consuming and are you using a food scale ?0 -
I TOO think it is impossible to gain 30 lbs of muscle in a month!! from food either for that matter
but yes that was my question do you think if i quit the weights all together and just did the cardio would that do it?
Its not my calorie intake, I definitely work off WAY more than I eat, BESIDES a big dinner, I may go an entire day eating a bagel for breakfast, piece of bologna 3 hrs later to not go into starvation mode, peanut butter sandwich 3 hrs later, eating this lightly, until my wife gets home and makes chicken mashed potatoes steak, baked potatoes etc, so I eat well for dinner, maybe a snack a few hours later, but EVERY day without rest days in between, MINIMUM one hour usually and a half of weight lifting or cardio the next
every kind of curl i can find in mags and online videos as far as the weights go
No, doc doesnt give advice just maybe cut back on food I use a weight watchers NEW digital scale at home, I know ill weigh a little more on docs scale but even my scale at home no matter where i set it in the bathroom
220 5 minutes later 224 5 minutes later 226 Im getting to where i dont even wanna use a scale anymore
same time every morning same almost clotheless before i eat anything
NO I dont use a food scale
I can usually lose weight ANYWHERE I cant if i were dying lose this last bit of belly fat0 -
OH doc DOES say NO pills Im on cause weight gain...I can eat a piece of bread and feel bloated for hours, like a ate a BIG MEAL so I never really want to eat anymore ALOT anyway.....no candy not many if any sodas, just water
not alot of pizza, potatoes(usually turn down my wifes baked potatoes )
In fact not alot of carbs more protein than anything
cant solve it
and kids wonder why im like obsessed with it, drives me up the wall when i cant explain it0 -
Are you tracking both your food and exercise?
I agree that you did not gain 30 lbs. of muscle.0 -
Invest in a food scale. More often than not people underestimate their calorie intake0
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I'm sorry, but no. If you gained weight (and it sounds like you're trying to lose), then it IS your calorie intake. There's no ifs ands or buts about that. Doesn't matter what you're eating, how long in between or when.. it's all about calories, not food type.
Also, there's no such thing as starvation mode. That's a myth.0 -
I'm sorry but in my opinion for you to get a handle on exactly what and why this is happening you need to use a food scale and get the logging of everything that you eat.
You have said it's not your meds., it isn't a flare up and you are as healthy as your conditions allow....then the only logical recourse is for you to get accurate numbers of your CI and CO.0 -
it sounds like there's more than just one simple issue going on. I think its been established that you didn't gain 30 lbs of straight up muscle.
Are you tracking everything you eat into mfp? How many calories a day are you eating? Eating like a bird all day and then filling up at night isn't exactly the best way to do it. You want to eat more in the morning to fuel your body throughout the day and then eat less at night as your body wont be working too hard while you sleep to burn it off.
If you're able to track your food and see how many calories you're actually consuming in a day you might find it really helpful. I also have some other resources if you're interested. Feel free to send me a PM as well, I would love to help you figure this out!
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jillhingston wrote: »it sounds like there's more than just one simple issue going on. I think its been established that you didn't gain 30 lbs of straight up muscle.
Are you tracking everything you eat into mfp? How many calories a day are you eating? Eating like a bird all day and then filling up at night isn't exactly the best way to do it. You want to eat more in the morning to fuel your body throughout the day and then eat less at night as your body wont be working too hard while you sleep to burn it off.
If you're able to track your food and see how many calories you're actually consuming in a day you might find it really helpful. I also have some other resources if you're interested. Feel free to send me a PM as well, I would love to help you figure this out!
Meal timing is irrelevant. What other resources would you have for him that you aren't willing to share with the class?
OP, when your doctor noticed you had gained so much in such a short time, did she/he check for any other medical conditions. I know you said that you are already dealing with a lot of medical concerns. Rapid weight gain like this could be a sign of something medically wrong. I would follow up with the doc and keep a close eye on this.0 -
Good thing you went to the dr. He didn't think you are swollen at all? how long have you been at this? A lb/day seems like a lot.
I would read through the getting started links, I refer back to them, too. Make sure you have your calorie/macro targets right. Then, measure everything accurately. Digital scales are inexpensive and easy to use. there is a link on measuring and on logging.
If you are still gaining or feel bad maybe you should get rechecked?0 -
whynotin2016 wrote: »I TOO think it is impossible to gain 30 lbs of muscle in a month!! from food either for that matter
but yes that was my question do you think if i quit the weights all together and just did the cardio would that do it?
Its not my calorie intake, I definitely work off WAY more than I eat, BESIDES a big dinner, I may go an entire day eating a bagel for breakfast, piece of bologna 3 hrs later to not go into starvation mode, peanut butter sandwich 3 hrs later, eating this lightly, until my wife gets home and makes chicken mashed potatoes steak, baked potatoes etc, so I eat well for dinner, maybe a snack a few hours later, but EVERY day without rest days in between, MINIMUM one hour usually and a half of weight lifting or cardio the next
every kind of curl i can find in mags and online videos as far as the weights go
No, doc doesnt give advice just maybe cut back on food I use a weight watchers NEW digital scale at home, I know ill weigh a little more on docs scale but even my scale at home no matter where i set it in the bathroom
220 5 minutes later 224 5 minutes later 226 Im getting to where i dont even wanna use a scale anymore
same time every morning same almost clotheless before i eat anything
NO I dont use a food scale
I can usually lose weight ANYWHERE I cant if i were dying lose this last bit of belly fat
A plain bagel can be as much as 400 calories, depending on the brand. No way to know how much bologna you're eating if you don't weigh it, but let's assume 2oz - that's 184 calories. No way to know how much peanut butter you're eating, but let's assume 200 calories, plus 200 for the bread, so 400 total there. "Eating this lightly" until your wife gets home - by noon you're close to 1000 calories; your definition of light is different than mine; let's go with 300 calories (a little less than third of what you've had so far) in the afternoon; we're at 1284 before dinner. AND THEN you have a big dinner. AND THEN you have another snack.
Starvation mode does not work the way you think it does; even if it did, that is not your problem. Your caloric intake is your problem.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »jillhingston wrote: »it sounds like there's more than just one simple issue going on. I think its been established that you didn't gain 30 lbs of straight up muscle.
Are you tracking everything you eat into mfp? How many calories a day are you eating? Eating like a bird all day and then filling up at night isn't exactly the best way to do it. You want to eat more in the morning to fuel your body throughout the day and then eat less at night as your body wont be working too hard while you sleep to burn it off.
If you're able to track your food and see how many calories you're actually consuming in a day you might find it really helpful. I also have some other resources if you're interested. Feel free to send me a PM as well, I would love to help you figure this out!
Meal timing is irrelevant. What other resources would you have for him that you aren't willing to share with the class?
Breakfast is the most important meal of the day, Timing is relevant, however it wouldn't cause a 30 lb weight gain in one more, i agree, if that is what you are implying.
I am a part of an online community of people all working together to lose weight and find answers to losing weight on a personal level. It's not a secret and I don't mind sharing with anyone else that is interested as well. I am happy to invite anyone that feels they may benefit from a group like this.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »jillhingston wrote: »it sounds like there's more than just one simple issue going on. I think its been established that you didn't gain 30 lbs of straight up muscle.
Are you tracking everything you eat into mfp? How many calories a day are you eating? Eating like a bird all day and then filling up at night isn't exactly the best way to do it. You want to eat more in the morning to fuel your body throughout the day and then eat less at night as your body wont be working too hard while you sleep to burn it off.
If you're able to track your food and see how many calories you're actually consuming in a day you might find it really helpful. I also have some other resources if you're interested. Feel free to send me a PM as well, I would love to help you figure this out!
Meal timing is irrelevant. What other resources would you have for him that you aren't willing to share with the class?
OP, when your doctor noticed you had gained so much in such a short time, did she/he check for any other medical conditions. I know you said that you are already dealing with a lot of medical concerns. Rapid weight gain like this could be a sign of something medically wrong. I would follow up with the doc and keep a close eye on this.
I agree with nutmegoreo. Rapid unexplained weight gain (14 pounds in one week, 30 pounds in a month) is definitely something to bring up with your doctor. Have you had any shortness of breath or swelling?0 -
What meds are you on? Do you have any kidney issues?0
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yep, he did like 10 tubes of blood..AGAIN.......no thyroid issue, cholesterol a little off, didnt mention kidney problems, blood pressures always perfect, go figure, I jogged and stayed active my entire life, NEVER drank alcohol, no drugs, no tobacco.....when the doc left it at youre gonna end up in a wheelchair from this, its incurable, like MS just not the lesions on the brain, not to say i wont get them....first time in my life i let myself give up...i got up to 260.....wouldnt have known then, if i hadnt of started getting on a ride with my little son, and the guy said sir, we have a weight limit. I laughed and said ill bet you do and kept getting on, he grabbed me and said SIR, I said OMG ME FIRST TIME I promise.....got home looked in mirror, really looked, said OMG look at my profile pic my daughter made side by side, I looked like i didnt have a neck, the weight in the black shirt I was like that most of my life!!
GOT OFF MY BUTT I said wait(people stopped coming to my pity parties) Im not a DOWNER I INSPIRE IM UP ALWAYS UP whose this doctor, he could mean next week he could mean 20 years from now, that was 10 years ago!! imagine had I listened to him and gave up permanently(I dont see him anymore by the way)
Look at my pics, the one in the yellow under armour like shirt is only a few years old....the john cena orange shirt flexing is last week0 -
not sure if you can lift weights (dont have to be real heavy) but that can help slow down RA and help it some. I have RA while mine is not severe,it has helped with the pain, and I dont need meds as of yet. I have no pain for now. I would of course ask your dr about it.not sure what your limitations may be either.Im not saying it will help it but its worth asking a dr or a trained professional about it.0
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I take ENBREL for RA Methotrexate to offset any side effects and over the counter folic acid to offset any side effects from methotrexate Only thing I really have to be careful of is lifting over my head sometimes (from the neurological) my arms get shaky...Im gonna end up dropping the weights on my head doc just said, just be careful 0
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when i say not heavy 12 lbs to warm up.....20 lbs til exhaustion.....then 40 lbs to exhaustion THEN back to 20...back to 12 just til i cant do anymore, any kind of curls ive ever seen done that i can do with my condition
cardio, anything my body will let me do, sometimes arms wont go one way or legs and i want them to, i dont quit though until im finished
pushups situps cruches lie on my back hands behind head, elbow to opposite knee vice versa think its called bicycle rows or something, right arm held high, down to left knee raised up high as i can, and vice versa
walk in place, best i can, OR outside, best i can, once i get going i get a good groove going0 -
ok well that should help some then. you know your own limits so do what you can.0
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So what I'm reading is doctor has ruled out water retention or any medical cause; your home scale agrees to within 6 lbs with doctors
30lbs gain in one month is significant - perhaps doctors scale has a calibration issue ...what is your home scale difference
You need to weigh and accurately log your food. You are not eating at or below your maintenance0 -
Are you tracking your intake? You havent mentioned calories a single time. Also lifting doesnt = bicep curls. Try to find a balanced program that works full body. It will burn more calories, strengthen your whole body, and make you look better0
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If your dr told you it si not water retention, then you have been eating several thousands of calories per day more than you think. Maybe it is time to talk to a dietitian and ask for a plan? Sometimes having guidelines helps stay on track.0
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annette_15 wrote: »Are you tracking your intake? You havent mentioned calories a single time. Also lifting doesnt = bicep curls. Try to find a balanced program that works full body. It will burn more calories, strengthen your whole body, and make you look better
You missed the RA and med conditions huh?0 -
annette_15 wrote: »Are you tracking your intake? You havent mentioned calories a single time. Also lifting doesnt = bicep curls. Try to find a balanced program that works full body. It will burn more calories, strengthen your whole body, and make you look better
You missed the RA and med conditions huh?
Lol I just skimmed the replies... ignore my post if I missed something0 -
you guys are awesome
I AM today!! starting to log EVERYTHING CALORIES weights all I could find under exercise..in other words just says weight training...and how long, doesnt say doing what with weights or how much....I dont just do curls bend at knees lift dumbbells up backwards, lie on back do them like bench pressing, one arm at a time, extend them over my head and all the way back up and down to waist again, then more curls, with heavier dumbbells, lie on my back again, do THEM as if bench pressing, also, hold one dumbell with both hands extend all the way over my head and back to my chest(I read that works on your chest) this is while lying flat on back.....I try planks, then do crunches, situps, leg raises, any cardio my body will let me do i can think of....then back to lifting one at a time diumbell over head like 25 times each arm then overhead, dropping dumbell behind my back and lifting back up sraight up......few sets each arm....really hard on my body after about an hour and a half
and YES just watching tv at night, cant EVER get a deep breath interesting call today Ill put in in another post, dont wanna write you a book 0 -
doc called today with my original question as a plan, said do JUST the cardio, NO WEIGHTS for 2-4 weeks, strenuous as I can, if Im STILL GAINING weight, hes gonna refer me to an Endocrinologist
That would be too much, I couldnt handle ANOTHER condition0
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