Do your legs ever get so fatigued that your performance sucks?

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  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    @kshama2001 can you tell this op all about your alternative women products ? ( I don't know what else to call it. But she might benefit from hearing about the cup and that type of stuff . I don't know enough about them to comment on it but remember you telling a member about those type of products )
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    edited February 2016
    I can't use those 'female products'. And yes, it would be unsanitary for me to get in a pool 2 weeks a month. Sorry but not getting into details about this on public forums just because a couple of you think that it's such a priority for me to do swimming (when as I said earlier, my form sucks anyway, I learned to 'swim' on my own but never learned good form and have no desire to bother at this point).

    I'm more and more amazed at these forums. The judgment is astounding. Do you tell people that they use excuses for not running if they just don't want to do it, even if they exercise all the time anyway (and apparently too much)?

    Sheesh.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    I can't use those 'female products'. And yes, it would be unsanitary for me to get in a pool 2 weeks a month. Sorry but not getting into details about this on public forums just because a couple of you think that it's such a priority for me to do swimming (when as I said earlier, my form sucks anyway, I learned to 'swim' on my own but never learned good form and have no desire to bother at this point).

    I'm more and more amazed at these forums. The judgment is astounding. Do you tell people that they use excuses for not running if they just don't want to do it, even if they exercise all the time anyway (and apparently too much)?

    Sheesh.

    You didn't say you didn't like swimming. You said bad form and woman issues. Which is why I said I don't think menstruation should hold a person back from doing any activity they enjoy, whether it be swimming or something else, in this day and age. If you don't enjoy it and don't want to learn then no, you don't need to try swimming.

    If a person asked for suggestions for cardio exercises and someone suggested running and they said "I can't run because I'm female and I menstruate" I would say the exact same thing to them. Suck it up and go for a run. Using menstruation as an excuse for every ailment/affliction/justification of bad habits/reason to overeat/why a person can't lose weight gives all women a bad reputation...
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Francl27 wrote: »
    I can't use those 'female products'. And yes, it would be unsanitary for me to get in a pool 2 weeks a month. Sorry but not getting into details about this on public forums just because a couple of you think that it's such a priority for me to do swimming (when as I said earlier, my form sucks anyway, I learned to 'swim' on my own but never learned good form and have no desire to bother at this point).

    I'm more and more amazed at these forums. The judgment is astounding. Do you tell people that they use excuses for not running if they just don't want to do it, even if they exercise all the time anyway (and apparently too much)?

    Sheesh.

    You didn't say you didn't like swimming. You said bad form and woman issues. Which is why I said I don't think menstruation should hold a person back from doing any activity they enjoy, whether it be swimming or something else, in this day and age. If you don't enjoy it and don't want to learn then no, you don't need to try swimming.

    If a person asked for suggestions for cardio exercises and someone suggested running and they said "I can't run because I'm female and I menstruate" I would say the exact same thing to them. Suck it up and go for a run. Using menstruation as an excuse for every ailment/affliction/justification of bad habits/reason to overeat/why a person can't lose weight gives all women a bad reputation...

    Sure, I guess I could go swimming and put blood all over the pool anyway...

    You can't really compare swimming and running, lol. But sure, menstruation is no excuse not to exercise. Unless you have so horrible pain that you can't function (it's happened to me - 4 Advils didn't put a dent in it). But apparently, close minded people like yourself don't realize that we're all different and that some women DO have hormonal issues that give them a lot of pain or really make them much hungrier.

    And THAT is the kind of attitude that give women a bad name... always bashing each other without having any idea what it's like to be in each other shoes.
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    i want to know what these special products are.
    i understand not going in the pool during monthlys
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    resistance work and rest days

    use something and it gets tired, let it rest to recover and it gets better and stronger

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    oh I forgot you're against muscles aren't you?

    ummm.. yoga or pilates or bodyweight resistance then
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    oh I forgot you're against muscles aren't you?

    ummm.. yoga or pilates or bodyweight resistance then

    why against muscles?
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Francl27 wrote: »
    I can't use those 'female products'. And yes, it would be unsanitary for me to get in a pool 2 weeks a month. Sorry but not getting into details about this on public forums just because a couple of you think that it's such a priority for me to do swimming (when as I said earlier, my form sucks anyway, I learned to 'swim' on my own but never learned good form and have no desire to bother at this point).

    I'm more and more amazed at these forums. The judgment is astounding. Do you tell people that they use excuses for not running if they just don't want to do it, even if they exercise all the time anyway (and apparently too much)?

    Sheesh.

    You didn't say you didn't like swimming. You said bad form and woman issues. Which is why I said I don't think menstruation should hold a person back from doing any activity they enjoy, whether it be swimming or something else, in this day and age. If you don't enjoy it and don't want to learn then no, you don't need to try swimming.

    If a person asked for suggestions for cardio exercises and someone suggested running and they said "I can't run because I'm female and I menstruate" I would say the exact same thing to them. Suck it up and go for a run. Using menstruation as an excuse for every ailment/affliction/justification of bad habits/reason to overeat/why a person can't lose weight gives all women a bad reputation...

    Sure, I guess I could go swimming and put blood all over the pool anyway...

    You can't really compare swimming and running, lol. But sure, menstruation is no excuse not to exercise. Unless you have so horrible pain that you can't function (it's happened to me - 4 Advils didn't put a dent in it). But apparently, close minded people like yourself don't realize that we're all different and that some women DO have hormonal issues that give them a lot of pain or really make them much hungrier.

    And THAT is the kind of attitude that give women a bad name... always bashing each other without having any idea what it's like to be in each other shoes.

    Again. Swim the two weeks you aren't menstruating. IF you want. Why does something have to be every single day/week the same?

    No one is bashing. People have tried to offer you suggestions in many, many threads. About hunger, pain, menstruation, sodium burns from fast food, exercise, setting maintenance calories, dealing with your mother, etc. People are patient and try to offer legitimate suggestions. My comments about swimming here are no different. Every suggestion is met with reasons why it won't work, why it's not worth trying, or how people don't understand what you're going through. I think you've even mentioned you've been frustrated with your doctors not believing your issues are as severe as they are to you. If this is the case then I truly can't relate, but that doesn't mean I'm bashing women.

    I really don't know what else to offer in the way of suggestions. Elective hysterectomy? It's an extreme option but since this menstruation thing is so debilitating for you that it negatively impacts your life (at least that's how it sounds from your posts) maybe you should talk to your doctors about that.

    Oh and back to your original question, I notice leg soreness more on days after I do hills. Maybe it's the incline that is getting to you. Try lowering that.


  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    oh I forgot you're against muscles aren't you?

    ummm.. yoga or pilates or bodyweight resistance then

    why against muscles?

    OP has posted before that she doesn't like the look of muscles on women for herself - that's her choice and desired body aesthetic
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I'm not sure but I think the response of getting some real rest days was given (before we got to the parting of the red sea bit).

    Real rest days mean no exercise activity. Not "oh, lets do something different".

    And things that may effect fatigue:
    - under eating
    - stress
    - menstruation
    - pain

    If you need rest, take rest, real rest.
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    oh I forgot you're against muscles aren't you?

    ummm.. yoga or pilates or bodyweight resistance then

    why against muscles?

    OP has posted before that she doesn't like the look of muscles on women for herself - that's her choice and desired body aesthetic

    ta, fair enough
  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    i want to know what these special products are.
    i understand not going in the pool during monthlys

    I'll let kshama explain, I don't know enough about them to give an accurate explanation. But basically there is other products women can buy if they are not comfortable with traditional tampons or pads . she has a link that explains it all and gives all the necessary details. I have not tried them myself though so I'll let someone else who has explain it.
  • LHWhite903
    LHWhite903 Posts: 208 Member
    Real rest days mean no exercise activity. Not "oh, lets do something different".

    And things that may affect fatigue:
    - under eating
    - stress
    - menstruation
    - pain

    If you need rest, take rest, real rest.

    This! So true! I'm not always sure if I'm eating/resting enough to fuel myself and then I overexert myself and then I rest a long while and then I'm not at my fittest anymore. :disappointed:
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    Try at least 3 days complete rest.

    Resume exercise.

    Report back.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    i want to know what these special products are.
    i understand not going in the pool during monthlys

    I'll let kshama explain, I don't know enough about them to give an accurate explanation. But basically there is other products women can buy if they are not comfortable with traditional tampons or pads . she has a link that explains it all and gives all the necessary details. I have not tried them myself though so I'll let someone else who has explain it.

    A menstrual cup?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cup
    http://divacup.com

    There are videos, etc. Just google.

    Don't understand why it can't be mentioned?
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    cos blood?

    actually I think she just forgot the name - I'm sitting here thinking moonpig but that's an online card company
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    mooncup :)
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    mooncup :)
    One among many.

    http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    i want to know what these special products are.
    i understand not going in the pool during monthlys

    I'll let kshama explain, I don't know enough about them to give an accurate explanation. But basically there is other products women can buy if they are not comfortable with traditional tampons or pads . she has a link that explains it all and gives all the necessary details. I have not tried them myself though so I'll let someone else who has explain it.

    A menstrual cup?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cup
    http://divacup.com

    There are videos, etc. Just google.

    Don't understand why it can't be mentioned?

    thank and they even sell it in superdrugs
    that thing looks massive
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    mooncup :)
    One among many.

    http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com

    IS LIVEJOURNAL STILL A THING?!
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    i want to know what these special products are.
    i understand not going in the pool during monthlys

    I'll let kshama explain, I don't know enough about them to give an accurate explanation. But basically there is other products women can buy if they are not comfortable with traditional tampons or pads . she has a link that explains it all and gives all the necessary details. I have not tried them myself though so I'll let someone else who has explain it.

    A menstrual cup?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cup
    http://divacup.com

    There are videos, etc. Just google.

    Don't understand why it can't be mentioned?

    thank and they even sell it in superdrugs
    that thing looks massive

    They come in different sizes and softness - review here: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com
    (and I only know about them from a distance - as a father of women that are extremely active.)
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    cos blood?

    actually I think she just forgot the name - I'm sitting here thinking moonpig but that's an online card company

    I'm glad I got my wife's Valentines present from Moonpig.com rather than Mooncup.com.

    That's all I'm saying.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    i want to know what these special products are.
    i understand not going in the pool during monthlys

    I'll let kshama explain, I don't know enough about them to give an accurate explanation. But basically there is other products women can buy if they are not comfortable with traditional tampons or pads . she has a link that explains it all and gives all the necessary details. I have not tried them myself though so I'll let someone else who has explain it.

    Ya, the moon cup: http://gladrags.com/product/238/The-Moon-Cup.html

    However, this would be for women who have a reaction to tampons or want an eco-friendly method of handling menstruation. You have to be more comfortable with your body for these to be a good option as it requires more intimate area contact than a tampon with an applicator.

    @Francl27 if you don't use tampons because you find them uncomfortable, I can't use brands like Tampax because they are too long. OBs are shorter and expand width-wise instead of length-wise. (Which also reduces leakage.)

    I had a friend who didn't use tampons for religious reasons, and if that's what's going on for you, I'll respect that and drop it, but it would be nice to know so we can stop offering solutions :)
  • LivingtheLeanDream
    LivingtheLeanDream Posts: 13,342 Member
    edited February 2016
    You are doing a lot, maybe you just need to cut back on the workouts, even cut them by 15 mins each day?

    My legs only get fatigued now and again, today they aren't great but thats because I did 25000 steps yesterday and most of them were ran.

    Also if I need a proper rest day I'll feel fatigue so I know its time for me to rest them.

    And if I haven't eaten enough food in general that also affects how my limbs feels, my body needs the fuel so I have to pay more attention to hit my macros.

    I like eating too and its why I am consistent in my workouts but I did get to the point when I was moving so much I was so hungry nothing could fill me. What worked was cutting back on the workouts and having more balance. Then I found it was easy to eat 2000-2100 average cals a day instead of 2300-2500. Getting the eating amounts/totals right works so much better than working out to excess.
  • cw106
    cw106 Posts: 952 Member
    try some yoga/pilates.
    good for relaxing muscles AND the mind.
    sounds like you need both.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    i want to know what these special products are.
    i understand not going in the pool during monthlys

    I'll let kshama explain, I don't know enough about them to give an accurate explanation. But basically there is other products women can buy if they are not comfortable with traditional tampons or pads . she has a link that explains it all and gives all the necessary details. I have not tried them myself though so I'll let someone else who has explain it.

    A menstrual cup?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cup
    http://divacup.com

    There are videos, etc. Just google.

    Don't understand why it can't be mentioned?

    thank and they even sell it in superdrugs
    that thing looks massive

    I have the size B and it holds about a tablespoon of fluid.

    "the Moon Cup Size B is meant for women who have NOT given birth vaginally"
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Francl27 wrote: »
    I can't use those 'female products'. And yes, it would be unsanitary for me to get in a pool 2 weeks a month. Sorry but not getting into details about this on public forums just because a couple of you think that it's such a priority for me to do swimming (when as I said earlier, my form sucks anyway, I learned to 'swim' on my own but never learned good form and have no desire to bother at this point).

    I'm more and more amazed at these forums. The judgment is astounding. Do you tell people that they use excuses for not running if they just don't want to do it, even if they exercise all the time anyway (and apparently too much)?

    Sheesh.

    You didn't say you didn't like swimming. You said bad form and woman issues. Which is why I said I don't think menstruation should hold a person back from doing any activity they enjoy, whether it be swimming or something else, in this day and age. If you don't enjoy it and don't want to learn then no, you don't need to try swimming.

    If a person asked for suggestions for cardio exercises and someone suggested running and they said "I can't run because I'm female and I menstruate" I would say the exact same thing to them. Suck it up and go for a run. Using menstruation as an excuse for every ailment/affliction/justification of bad habits/reason to overeat/why a person can't lose weight gives all women a bad reputation...

    Sure, I guess I could go swimming and put blood all over the pool anyway...

    You can't really compare swimming and running, lol. But sure, menstruation is no excuse not to exercise. Unless you have so horrible pain that you can't function (it's happened to me - 4 Advils didn't put a dent in it). But apparently, close minded people like yourself don't realize that we're all different and that some women DO have hormonal issues that give them a lot of pain or really make them much hungrier.

    And THAT is the kind of attitude that give women a bad name... always bashing each other without having any idea what it's like to be in each other shoes.

    Sorry if I missed this - did you talk to your doctor about Prometrium (bio-identical progesterone)?
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    edited February 2016
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    oh I forgot you're against muscles aren't you?

    ummm.. yoga or pilates or bodyweight resistance then

    Not against muscles... I just have enough right now. I just don't like muscular looks.
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    i want to know what these special products are.
    i understand not going in the pool during monthlys

    I'll let kshama explain, I don't know enough about them to give an accurate explanation. But basically there is other products women can buy if they are not comfortable with traditional tampons or pads . she has a link that explains it all and gives all the necessary details. I have not tried them myself though so I'll let someone else who has explain it.

    A menstrual cup?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cup
    http://divacup.com

    There are videos, etc. Just google.

    Don't understand why it can't be mentioned?

    Yeah I've tried that and again... it didn't work. And again.. don't want to get in the details of why (and believe me, I was extremely frustrated when I found out). But they're a great option, sure.
    cw106 wrote: »
    try some yoga/pilates.
    good for relaxing muscles AND the mind.
    sounds like you need both.

    I'm a fidgetting person, lol. I tried yoga and I was SO BORED. Just can't do it. I'll probably check a pilates class at the gym next Monday though, thanks for the suggestion!

    I guess my issue is that I want to do things I actually like (doh) so it's sustainable.


    I'm resting for now..
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Francl27 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Francl27 wrote: »
    I can't use those 'female products'. And yes, it would be unsanitary for me to get in a pool 2 weeks a month. Sorry but not getting into details about this on public forums just because a couple of you think that it's such a priority for me to do swimming (when as I said earlier, my form sucks anyway, I learned to 'swim' on my own but never learned good form and have no desire to bother at this point).

    I'm more and more amazed at these forums. The judgment is astounding. Do you tell people that they use excuses for not running if they just don't want to do it, even if they exercise all the time anyway (and apparently too much)?

    Sheesh.

    You didn't say you didn't like swimming. You said bad form and woman issues. Which is why I said I don't think menstruation should hold a person back from doing any activity they enjoy, whether it be swimming or something else, in this day and age. If you don't enjoy it and don't want to learn then no, you don't need to try swimming.

    If a person asked for suggestions for cardio exercises and someone suggested running and they said "I can't run because I'm female and I menstruate" I would say the exact same thing to them. Suck it up and go for a run. Using menstruation as an excuse for every ailment/affliction/justification of bad habits/reason to overeat/why a person can't lose weight gives all women a bad reputation...

    Sure, I guess I could go swimming and put blood all over the pool anyway...

    You can't really compare swimming and running, lol. But sure, menstruation is no excuse not to exercise. Unless you have so horrible pain that you can't function (it's happened to me - 4 Advils didn't put a dent in it). But apparently, close minded people like yourself don't realize that we're all different and that some women DO have hormonal issues that give them a lot of pain or really make them much hungrier.

    And THAT is the kind of attitude that give women a bad name... always bashing each other without having any idea what it's like to be in each other shoes.

    Sorry if I missed this - did you talk to your doctor about Prometrium (bio-identical progesterone)?


    Haven't seen my doctor yet. This month was fine, once I changed my diet, so we'll see how next month goes anyway.
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    i want to know what these special products are.
    i understand not going in the pool during monthlys

    I'll let kshama explain, I don't know enough about them to give an accurate explanation. But basically there is other products women can buy if they are not comfortable with traditional tampons or pads . she has a link that explains it all and gives all the necessary details. I have not tried them myself though so I'll let someone else who has explain it.

    A menstrual cup?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cup
    http://divacup.com

    There are videos, etc. Just google.

    Don't understand why it can't be mentioned?

    thank and they even sell it in superdrugs
    that thing looks massive

    I have the size B and it holds about a tablespoon of fluid.

    "the Moon Cup Size B is meant for women who have NOT given birth vaginally"

    thanks ok mine would be cup A
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