You Need to Burn 7,000 Calories to Lose a Pound, Not 3,500
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I must admit though, I've been eating very close to 100 cals under a day for 35 days and my loss (taken from a rolling average) is hilariously ONE POUND.
I know each food item is either under or over, as is my exercise and General maintenance figure, but whatever these small errors are, overall it really works.0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
I get all my information from BuzzFeed and LifeHacker -- doesn't everyone?
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
I get all my information from BuzzFeed and LifeHacker -- doesn't everyone?
You forgot Daily Mail! Good stuff there!0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
BTW I think this is the actual research that was published: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2015/06/03/ajcn.115.111070.abstract you have to really hunt through the links to get here but, of course, Life Hacker expect people on their site to actually be interested in anything but fluff so why bother posting it upfront, right?
ETA here's a better link http://calerie.dcri.duke.edu/0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
I get all my information from BuzzFeed and LifeHacker -- doesn't everyone?
You forgot Daily Mail! Good stuff there!
Not as good as the Weekly World News but at least they are big enough to admit they just make it up!
Oh and Bat Boy 2016!0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
I get all my information from BuzzFeed and LifeHacker -- doesn't everyone?
You forgot Daily Mail! Good stuff there!
You guys are newbies. Everyone knows that all the best nutritional and fitness information comes from PopSugar.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
I get all my information from BuzzFeed and LifeHacker -- doesn't everyone?
You forgot Daily Mail! Good stuff there!
You guys are newbies. Everyone knows that all the best nutritional and fitness information comes from PopSugar.
Oh did you forget Food Babe? 0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
I get all my information from BuzzFeed and LifeHacker -- doesn't everyone?
You forgot Daily Mail! Good stuff there!
You guys are newbies. Everyone knows that all the best nutritional and fitness information comes from PopSugar.
Oh did you forget Food Babe?
*barf*0 -
CoffeeNCardio wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
I get all my information from BuzzFeed and LifeHacker -- doesn't everyone?
You forgot Daily Mail! Good stuff there!
You guys are newbies. Everyone knows that all the best nutritional and fitness information comes from PopSugar.
Oh did you forget Food Babe?
*barf*
That's the normal reaction.0 -
mmmm didn't read the article... but conversion error?
Maybe they really meant you need to burn 7000 to lose 1kg and not 1lbs.
I mean, those pesky different measurements that don't seem to add up with each other. Easy enough mistake to make...0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »CoffeeNCardio wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
I get all my information from BuzzFeed and LifeHacker -- doesn't everyone?
You forgot Daily Mail! Good stuff there!
You guys are newbies. Everyone knows that all the best nutritional and fitness information comes from PopSugar.
Oh did you forget Food Babe?
*barf*
That's the normal reaction.
Barfing is very detoxifying though.0 -
I disagree. I've lost 40 pounds on natural burns. It takes dedicating to not eating anything bad and following what your dietitian recommends. I burn up to 3,500 calories and I eat 1,200 to 1,700 calories a day. Correct dieting and exercises drops body fat which is where some of that 7,000 calories idea comes from. But I went down to 17% once not by that many calories so that's incorrect.0
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ladyreva78 wrote: »mmmm didn't read the article... but conversion error?
Maybe they really meant you need to burn 7000 to lose 1kg and not 1lbs.
I mean, those pesky different measurements that don't seem to add up with each other. Easy enough mistake to make...
No, I wish they were just making a measurement mistake but the article is clearly convinced that math is not, in fact, math. They mean lb, and they are wrong on oh so many intricate little levels.0 -
CoffeeNCardio wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »mmmm didn't read the article... but conversion error?
Maybe they really meant you need to burn 7000 to lose 1kg and not 1lbs.
I mean, those pesky different measurements that don't seem to add up with each other. Easy enough mistake to make...
No, I wish they were just making a measurement mistake but the article is clearly convinced that math is not, in fact, math. They mean lb, and they are wrong on oh so many intricate little levels.
I had some hope there...0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »CoffeeNCardio wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
I get all my information from BuzzFeed and LifeHacker -- doesn't everyone?
You forgot Daily Mail! Good stuff there!
You guys are newbies. Everyone knows that all the best nutritional and fitness information comes from PopSugar.
Oh did you forget Food Babe?
*barf*
That's the normal reaction.
Barfing is very detoxifying though.
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CoffeeNCardio wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »mmmm didn't read the article... but conversion error?
Maybe they really meant you need to burn 7000 to lose 1kg and not 1lbs.
I mean, those pesky different measurements that don't seem to add up with each other. Easy enough mistake to make...
No, I wish they were just making a measurement mistake but the article is clearly convinced that math is not, in fact, math. They mean lb, and they are wrong on oh so many intricate little levels.
Never let logic get in the way of a good argument!0 -
makingmark wrote: »CoffeeNCardio wrote: »ladyreva78 wrote: »mmmm didn't read the article... but conversion error?
Maybe they really meant you need to burn 7000 to lose 1kg and not 1lbs.
I mean, those pesky different measurements that don't seem to add up with each other. Easy enough mistake to make...
No, I wish they were just making a measurement mistake but the article is clearly convinced that math is not, in fact, math. They mean lb, and they are wrong on oh so many intricate little levels.
Never let logic get in the way of a good argument!
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I have 58 weeks worth of data that says otherwise.0
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Thanks I was just looking for my link for this. I actually found the original research and their 'Body Weight Planner' pretty cool. You plug in various variables and it will chart your weight loss over time. It compensates for your BMR dropping as you lose weight. Personally I don't find I track with the chart but I think that's because I'll go a certain amount of time losing nothing, then lose a little, then a period where I lose nothing again. So basically my scale weight is always lagging behind. But I did think it was sort of cool to play with.
*Actually I just looked at the numbers I pulled in January and I am literally within .2 lbs of what it says I'm supposed to be today. So that's not bad at all. But my daily weight fluctuates a lot more than the chart compensates for.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »CoffeeNCardio wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Derp lifehacker article is derp.
They don't link to the actual research.
The whole point of the article can be summed up as "There's no truly accurate way to measure exactly what one's 'CO' is, so many people probably overestimate it and as a result what they think is a 500 calorie daily deficit is really probably closer to a 200 calorie daily deficit"
Actually if you follow the links enough you come up to this tool : http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/weight-control/body-weight-planner/Pages/bwp.aspx But life hacker is just a click bait site so overblows it. If you want to lose a pound this week it's 3500 calories, but if you want to lose that same pound in the future, and have lost some already then it will, in theory, cost you more in the present. It's like calculating present value of an financial intrument in a way. It's a fairly sound model from what I see but you have to actually understand what you are looking at and the article doesn't really explain it properly.
Yeah I found the tool, but the article makes the claim that it's based on research by the NIH, but they don't ever point you TO said research to see what it really said. If they're making the claim based on the mathematical model of constant calorie intake in the face of a declining CO as one loses weight, then they should say that, not cite 'research'. And yes, I'm fully aware that expecting anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity from lifehacker is a laughable concept in and of itself.
I get all my information from BuzzFeed and LifeHacker -- doesn't everyone?
You forgot Daily Mail! Good stuff there!
You guys are newbies. Everyone knows that all the best nutritional and fitness information comes from PopSugar.
Oh did you forget Food Babe?
*barf*
That's the normal reaction.
Barfing is very detoxifying though.
Does that mean I can give up my green tea cleanse this weekend if I just read her blog? Cool!
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