22 Days

Kristie354

So I've been logging for 22 days and over the weekend I feel like I fell off the wagon even though I really didn't go over my calories but I ate pizza 2 days running and didn't really know the calories so I just picked the highest calorie pizza in the list of options to log. Sunday I felt horrid. No energy, not eating properly etc. Today I was much the same, a little better. Except today I was hungry all day.

My question is does eating carbs like pizza make anyone else feel flat? I can see no other reason for it.

vegangela_

If I ate dairy such as cheese on a pizza I would be left feeling flat and lethargic. Carbs however make me feel good.

Kristie354

Hmm maybe I need to do some eliminations and see what it is.

kbmnurse

Nope. Love it. Gotta have my pizza.

JenniDaisy

Are you sure it's not emotional?
You said you fell off the wagon, this implies you may have been feeling guilty about eating the pizza. Rather than it being something you physically ate, maybe you've made yourself feel sluggish and down?

heldavi

Yeah I totally know what you mean. Even though it's within my calories, I feel that it doesn't give me good energy, it's stodgy food and the grease isn't good for anyones health... I always regret it.

cityruss

Nope.

engodwin

Yep - certain foods make me bloated and I feel "yucky"

chandanista

Certain foods make me feel that way. Pizza isn't one of them. It's something I eat at least once a week and never have a problem making it fit.

ForeverSunshine09

Pizza is delicious and can be very balanced. I would make sure it isn't an emotional reaction to not eating what you feel is healthy. I have only had that truly happen once and I had 2 donuts for dinner. I am pretty sure it was a sugar crash but, I still love some good donuts.

blues4miles

I agree it could be mental. I always try to get in a good sweaty workout and drink lots of water after days like that. There's going to be some water retention so I want that gone as soon as possible so I can move on. Also working out harder helps me mentally cope with what I just did and feel like I have the tools to address it since it will certainly happen again.

kshama2001

From your macros it looks like you are normally low carb so I wonder if your much higher carb day Saturday was hard on you.

Paging @nvmomketo

Cynsonya

Kristie354 wrote: »

My question is does eating carbs like pizza make anyone else feel flat? I can see no other reason for it.

Carbs really affect me. If I have a high carb day (which for me constitutes hitting the macro MFP set for me) I have uncontrollable cravings the next day. I feel much hungrier than usual. Even the second day after I'm affected though not as much. I tend to eat less than half the carbs MFP sets for me usually and I feel much, much better with little to no cravings.

Kristie354

Yeah definitely thinking high protein, low carb because I still feel tired and irritated. My whole body is tired even when moving for simple tasks.

Thanks for all your input. It's appreciated.

ronjsteele1

Dairy (like that much cheese on a pizza) knocks me flat on my butt for days. It's a good indicator of a food allergy. Over-carbing (if I can make that word up) will not typically knock a person flat for more then a day.

Sued0nim

How come people accept keto flu and how terrible that feels as you force your body from a position of running on glycogen to one of ketones but not the reverse when your body gets a chance to replenish its glycogen stores from eating sufficient carbs

That said I think it's more your guilt over a food that needs addressing..guilt will make you feel all kinds of awful

Kristie354

Okay thanks. I still think I'm going to look into food allergies just in case. I felt and still somewhat feel pretty awful.

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld

Life without pizza wouldn't be a life I wanted to live. I eat pizza at least once a week.

vivmom2014

Had pizza last night - thin & crispy crush w/ tomatoes and spinach. Delicious. The only bad thing about it was that UVA lost (ha)... pizza fills me up and is delicious. The thin crust keeps the calories lower and I can eat it with abandon.

Kristie354

I tested a theory today because I blamed the pizza and excess carbs but I also had 5 coffees on the same day.

No coffee all day today but I ate some carbs and junk food and felt fine. Had a coffee at 4:30pm & by 5:30pm I was a mess. Nauseous, lethargic, muscle fatigue & really just not well. It's now 9:30pm and I've just given in and taken anti nausea medication so I can try and sleep. I'm glad I did it because now I have a fair idea that it's milk and will make a Drs app to be sure.

CollieFit

Certain carbs, like pizza, white pasta or rice give me a very brief energy spike and then a complete energy slump that lasts for hours, so much so that I once fell asleep after pasta when I had friends round my place and I fell asleep on the sofa for two hours. LOL

I have to ration carbs or time them well so that I don't need much energy afterwards.

Kristie354

CollieFit wrote: »

Certain carbs, like pizza, white pasta or rice give me a very brief energy spike and then a complete energy slump that lasts for hours, so much so that I once fell asleep after pasta when I had friends round my place and I fell asleep on the sofa for two hours. LOL

I have to ration carbs or time them well so that I don't need much energy afterwards.

Well what are friends for if not waiting around for your carb slump right? Lol

It's such a crap feeling though. Can't wait to sort it out.

CollieFit

Kristie354 wrote: »

CollieFit wrote: »

Certain carbs, like pizza, white pasta or rice give me a very brief energy spike and then a complete energy slump that lasts for hours, so much so that I once fell asleep after pasta when I had friends round my place and I fell asleep on the sofa for two hours. LOL

I have to ration carbs or time them well so that I don't need much energy afterwards.

Well what are friends for if not waiting around for your carb slump right? Lol

It's such a crap feeling though. Can't wait to sort it out.

When I came round they were both watching really crap television and playing with my cat. LOL I was so embarrassed!!!

B_TEEN

So one can deduce eating a highly-processed, cholesterol laden meal of dairy cheese, meats, oils and processed plant grains (i.e., pizza), the complications of such a meal should be blamed squarely on "carbs".

You ate a highly processed, non-nutritious meal that didn't make you feel good physically and emotionally afterwards. It happens; own it and move on. This is not a "carb" issue this is a caloric, nutrient density (or lack thereof) issue.

Kristie354

B_TEEN wrote: »

So one can deduce eating a highly-processed, cholesterol laden meal of dairy cheese, meats, oils and processed plant grains (i.e., pizza), the complications of such a meal should be blamed squarely on "carbs".

You ate a highly processed, non-nutritious meal that didn't make you feel good physically and emotionally afterwards. It happens; own it and move on. This is not a "carb" issue this is a caloric, nutrient density (or lack thereof) issue.

I guess if ones smart enough and their powers of deduction are as on point and sounding as snarky as yours, then yes one could deduce that.

I didn't eat over my calories for the day and as I'm told all the time on this site "there's no such thing as bad calories". Either too many or not enough. I also wrote that I did a test yesterday and it was the copious amounts of coffee I had drank as I'm fairly sure now that I'm having a reaction to milk.

How is pizza not nutrient dense? This are high end high quality pizza, with lots of fresh vegetables and meats on them. Calorie high, yes but I can't see how they aren't packed with nutrients as well.

emmycantbemeeko

If this is the first time you've had a reaction like this to pizza or coffee, don't discount the possibility that you're actually getting sick and the timing is coincidental.

Sometimes a bug comes on slowly- I felt really run down for two days this week and wasn't sure what was up... until I woke up yesterday with a fever, tonsils the size of golf balls, and a general sense of wanting to lay down on the floor and die.

B_TEEN

Kristie354 wrote: »

How is pizza not nutrient dense?

Pizza can be prepared more healthfully compared to many processed / pre-made options; however that doesn't appear to be the crux of the original post.

There is generally an inverse relationship between nutrient density and calorie-rich foods. Most nutrient dense foods (i.e., fruits, vegetables, whole gains and legumes) are calorie-poor. Most calorie dense foods are generally lower/lowest in nutrient density (compared to nutrient-dense, low-cal alternative). While there are exceptions to the rule, a calorie may be a calorie but the physical impact of the "quality" of those calories are not equivalent (this being well documented in nutrition science journals/research) to the body. I reference body in lieu of the term weight purposefully.

Context matters and "carbs" can't be the catch-all for the impacts of ones dietary choices when there are more variables involved.

Good luck on your journey!

brb_2013

My partner and I both feel awful after pizza. We think the combination of dairy and grease is what does us in. Fatigue, tummy trouble, and just grumpy. We need to stop eating so much of it, that's for sure.

maidengirl_

I love pizza! So what I ended up doing was switching from brought PIZZA HUT and making my own homemade pizzas for under 400 calories for a self-size portion. TRY IT!