Raw Vegan Diet

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I'd like to know more about this, is it healthy? I mean fruit and veg. Are major keystones in a healthy diet. But I don't understand how you can have a well rounded diet being a raw vegan. I'd like to hear from you guys, pros, cons etc.

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  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
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    http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2016/02/22/whats-really-in-raw-food/#115d8d325fc3


    The raw food crazies are making themselves sick.

    There’s a thing called the Raw Food Movement that has been growing in popularity in recent years. Proponents argue that it’s far healthier than our usual (human) diet of cooked foods, claiming that cooking removes many of the natural enzymes that make food nutritious. They also believe that cooking creates harmful toxins.

    What’s really happening, though, is that raw foodies are putting themselves at risk of serious bacterial infections. Just last week, we learned that a salmonella outbreak tied to raw food has sickened people in 15 states so far. The CDC reports that the outbreak is linked to Garden of Life’s RAW Meal Organic Shakes, which come in chocolate, vanilla and vanilla chai flavors. The company issued a recall and warned that “persons infected with salmonella often experience fever, diarrhea (which may be bloody), nausea, vomiting and abdominal pain.”

    According to the CDC, no one has died from any of these salmonella infections, although four people have been hospitalized.


    It’s not clear why raw food is so trendy, other than the obsession of some people with everything “natural.”

    Natural or not, cooking is one of mankind’s greatest inventions. It allows us to spend far less time eating, because cooked food is much easier to chew and digest. We extract more nutrients from cooked food–not fewer, despite what the raw foodies claim. Chimpanzees, our closest relative, spend up to 50% of their waking hours eating, because they subsist entirely on raw food. A 2011 study by Chris Organ and colleagues at Harvard University pointed out that:




    The ancestors of modern humans who invented food processing (including cooking) gained critical advantages in survival and fitness through increased caloric intake.

    Cooking our food has another huge advantage as well: it kills harmful bacteria and viruses. The current salmonella outbreak could easily have been avoided if people had simply cooked their food instead of consuming raw shakes.

    Raw foodies, though, seem to live in Opposite Land, where food science gets turned on its head. The website RawFoodLife.com claims that:

    Science now proves that cooking not only destroys nutrition and enzymes but chemically changes foods from the substances needed for health into acid-forming toxins, free-radicals and poisons that destroy our health!



    Er, no. Science proves nothing of the sort (nor does that website provide any citations to scientific articles to back up its claim). As Christopher Wanjek explained ten years ago at LiveScience:

    Plant enzymes, which raw dieters wish to preserve, are largely mashed up with other proteins and rendered useless by acids in the stomach. Not cooking them doesn’t save them from this fate. Anyway, the plant enzymes were for the plants … they are not needed for human digestion. Human digestive enzymes are used for human digestion.



    Raw foodies also love raw milk, another dangerous trend, which has sickened thousands of people in the U.S. over the past decade. That topic deserves another column all to itself, but for now, suffice it to say that one of the greatest scientists of the 19th century, Louis Pasteur, discovered that heating milk briefly can kill a host of dangerous pathogens. Pasteurization, which is named for him, has been rightly credited with saving millions of lives. A few years ago, the Royal Society named pasteurized milk the second greatest invention in the history of food (after refrigeration).

    Obviously some foods, fruits in particular, are generally eaten raw, and fruits are indeed very healthy. But don’t be fooled into thinking that cooking somehow makes food bad for you: it doesn’t. Cooked food is easier to digest, more nutritious and to most of us, pretty darned tasty.

    Steven Salzberg is the Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of Biomedical Engineering, Computer Science, and Biostatistics at Johns Hopkins University.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
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    Go plant based if you wish: cook / prepare beans, tofu, hemp seed, chia seeds, chic peas, lentils and lots of raw, fresh, or frozen veggies. Also some fruit.
    Get enough protein.
    Raw does not bestow special benefits.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    I would imagine we invented cooking for a reason. Food safety, palatability, digestibility etc.

    I eat vegans - cows, sheep etc, but not usually raw.
  • evayna
    evayna Posts: 66 Member
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    RodaRose wrote: »
    Go plant based if you wish: cook / prepare beans, tofu, hemp seed, chia seeds, chic peas, lentils and lots of raw, fresh, or frozen veggies. Also some fruit.
    Get enough protein.
    Raw does not bestow special benefits.

    I'm not personally interested in going vegetarian or vegan. It's just something that I find interesting, thank you for your input though!
  • evayna
    evayna Posts: 66 Member
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    Wetcoaster wrote: »
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2016/02/22/whats-really-in-raw-food/#115d8d325fc3


    The raw food crazies are making themselves sick.

    There’s a thing called the Raw Food Movement that has been growing in popularity in recent years. Proponents argue that it’s far healthier than our usual (human) diet of cooked foods, claiming that cooking removes many of the natural enzymes that make food nutritious. They also believe that cooking creates harmful toxins....

    Thank you! That is what I was thinking. Great information!
  • sarko15
    sarko15 Posts: 330 Member
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    evayna wrote: »
    RodaRose wrote: »
    Go plant based if you wish: cook / prepare beans, tofu, hemp seed, chia seeds, chic peas, lentils and lots of raw, fresh, or frozen veggies. Also some fruit.
    Get enough protein.
    Raw does not bestow special benefits.

    I'm not personally interested in going vegetarian or vegan. It's just something that I find interesting, thank you for your input though!

    Wait so you're going to eat your meat raw?