What's with this advocare thing??
Lizzypb88
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My sister in law refuses to do MFP with me, I've lost 45 pounds but she and other family members are on the magic train with advocare because it's worked for all of them in the past.. Now I'm all interested! Anyone have insight or info on it? Mainly curiosity!
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MLM (multi-level marketing) scam. Waste of money for inferior products with lots of over-hyped advertising and woo. Save your money, stick to MFP and prosper.
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MLM oh okay like those stupid it works wraps! I didn't know it was that kind of business!0
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^^^this
Also notice how Advocare worked for them "in the past." If they're to the point where you've tried to get them to count calories with you - guess what? It didn't work. It was a short-term fix.
You've lost 45 lbs counting calories - why be tempted by snake oil now? Keep doing what you're doing. You're doing it right.0 -
I did the 24 day challenge and lost 14 lbs. I've lost 54 total and haven't put it back on. I had a good experience with AdvoCare products.0
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I also walk a lot, changed my diet to feed my body what it needs to function optimally, added a multivitamin & cut out pop and alcohol.0
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What is a multi level marketing company?0
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What is a multi level marketing company?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing"Companies that use MLM models for compensation have been a frequent subject of criticism and lawsuits. Criticism has focused on their similarity to illegal pyramid schemes, price fixing of products, high initial entry costs (for marketing kit and first products), emphasis on recruitment of others over actual sales, encouraging if not requiring members to purchase and use the company's products, exploitation of personal relationships as both sales and recruiting targets, complex and exaggerated compensation schemes, the company and/or leading distributors making major money off training events and materials, and cult-like techniques which some groups use to enhance their members' enthusiasm and devotion.[9][14]"0 -
What is a multi level marketing company?
It is basically a pyramid scheme. There is a person (corporate) at the top of the pyramid, who recruits salespeople to sell their product. The salespeople have to buyin to the business by buying some of the product and selling it for more than they bought it for, and the person at the top gets a portion of the sales people's money. The salespeople recruit people underneath them, then those salespeople recruit people, etc., until you've got multiple levels of salespeople out peddling their crap and driving away their family and friends. The person at the top may be very rich, but generally it's not a good investment for the salespeople within the pyramid because very few of them make a profit and lose the money that they spent to buy into the company.
It's a shoddy business model and the products really don't work and are extremely over-priced.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »What is a multi level marketing company?
It is basically a pyramid scheme. There is a person (corporate) at the top of the pyramid, who recruits salespeople to sell their product. The salespeople have to buyin to the business by buying some of the product and selling it for more than they bought it for, and the person at the top gets a portion of the sales people's money. The salespeople recruit people underneath them, then those salespeople recruit people, etc., until you've got multiple levels of salespeople out peddling their crap and driving away their family and friends. The person at the top may be very rich, but generally it's not a good investment for the salespeople within the pyramid because very few of them make a profit and lose the money that they spent to buy into the company.
It's a shoddy business model and the products really don't work and are extremely over-priced.
But they're sure aggressive with their sales techniques - spamming internet forums, crap all over their Facebook pages, bogus/shill reviews on every site they can post them on, etc.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »What is a multi level marketing company?
It is basically a pyramid scheme. There is a person (corporate) at the top of the pyramid, who recruits salespeople to sell their product. The salespeople have to buyin to the business by buying some of the product and selling it for more than they bought it for, and the person at the top gets a portion of the sales people's money. The salespeople recruit people underneath them, then those salespeople recruit people, etc., until you've got multiple levels of salespeople out peddling their crap and driving away their family and friends. The person at the top may be very rich, but generally it's not a good investment for the salespeople within the pyramid because very few of them make a profit and lose the money that they spent to buy into the company.
It's a shoddy business model and the products really don't work and are extremely over-priced.
But they're sure aggressive with their sales techniques - spamming internet forums, crap all over their Facebook pages, bogus/shill reviews on every site they can post them on, etc.
Ain't that the truth. I've had to hide so many people from my Facebook feed because of it. It's either oils or wraps or Plexus or Jamberry - it's so annoying and it really makes interactions with those people seem shallow and disingenuous.0 -
DON'T even get me started on the oils. I could stub my toe and someone would have an oil to fix it, lmao0
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The heaviest set of parents in my kid's class were fairly high level Advocare distributors. IMO weren't real good models for the weight management products.0
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I have a fb friend who is actively trying to sell me isagenix. She is obese and I am bmi 20.5. Um OK thanks for telling me I need to lose weight
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DON'T even get me started on the oils. I could stub my toe and someone would have an oil to fix it, lmao
"Just put some thieves oil on it!"
This is a famous one-liner that this woman at my job says at least once a week. I live in Alabama - imagine a high-pitched Larry the Cable Guy yelling this across the break room.0 -
Somehow I've been lucky and had no one spamming fb with any of these products.
Until today
She's the one posting pics of meals with 3 lbs of cheese on a regular basis so I'm sure any weight loss will be because of advocare. Right? ::::rolls eyes:::::0 -
I also walk a lot, changed my diet to feed my body what it needs to function optimally, added a multivitamin & cut out pop and alcohol.
Congratulations on your weight loss! I have a sneaking suspicion this is why you lost weight though, not because of the avocare. Your changed habits put you at a calorie deficit.0 -
My husband and I have been drinking Shakeology every morning for breakfast since last August and think it's the bomb. I don't lump it in with other "snake oil" products. It gives me more energy and can be the only thing responsible for no longer craving junk food like I used to for the past 27 years.
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I was getting ready to get my fight on then I was @AnvilHead got here first:) Listen to him. It's just another MLM. The individual products aren't the devil, but compared to MFP method which is lifetime sustainable, it's also a waste of time and money.0
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It's snakeoil. SMH
So is shakeology.0 -
It's not that supplements and meal replacements aren't ever helpful. It's just that there are much cheaper options that don't involve your friends hassling you to join their cult, and you then needing to hassle other people into it so that you can afford to remain a member of said cult. And in the end, you still have to learn how to eat properly or you will gain the weight back.
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Advocare is the reason I am still so overweight! Well not really, but I quit going to my companies free gym because the trainer is an advocate rep. I was doing great going every morning after work for almost three months. In that time he was always super helpful, put together a good full week program for me, always encouraging really positive guy. He told me, I was doing awesome, and you could tell he was impressed I was sticking to it. Then I get a FB request, figure he just wants to be able to see what's up if I skip gym or something, so sure I'll add. He messages me and asks if I would mind talking about something that would make a big difference for me, once again sure, didn't think about it. Next thing I know I am in the middle of a conference call with him and some random advocare Jack wagon, trying to drag me into a pyramid scheme. At first I just backed out and told myself to forget about it, but the more I thought the more angry I got. If I was really doing "awesome" why would I need supplements? Between anger, embarrassment, and being a natural born quitter, I never went back to that gym again.0
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