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worth watching - Sugar: The Bitter Truth
chrislee1628
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM0
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Not worth watching.
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/0 -
stevencloser wrote: »
Beat me to it! LOL0 -
"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.0
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perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
Agenda based propaganda, so no.1 -
perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
I watched this one once upon a time and enjoyed it. But he drastically cut down his activity (taking cabs everywhere) and increased his consumption at the same time. Of course he gained weight. His results haven't been replicated when others keep the variables a little more steady.0 -
No.0
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perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.
IMO, it's the idea that it's not good food to be eating. I know eating it every single meal isn't typical of what people really do
If you knew the story behind all that crap is prepared in factories you wouldn't eat it. But yes, I realize that man took it to the extreme. And the really overweight/obese people don't get that way eating only home cooked meals. If you believe that then you are being fooled. Processed foods maybe, but mostly fast foods. 0 -
perkymommy wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.
IMO, it's the idea that it's not good food to be eating. I know eating it every single meal isn't typical of what people really do If you knew the story behind all that crap is prepared in factories you wouldn't eat it. But yes, I realize that man took it to the extreme. And the really overweight/obese people don't get that way eating only home cooked meals. If you believe that then you are being fooled. Processed foods maybe, but mostly fast foods.
What is the story?0 -
diannethegeek wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
I watched this one once upon a time and enjoyed it. But he drastically cut down his activity (taking cabs everywhere) and increased his consumption at the same time. Of course he gained weight. His results haven't been replicated when others keep the variables a little more steady.
Yes I know this. But it's the idea behind how bad fast food is for a person. And I do personally know people close to me who eat only fast food for every single meal. They may eat cereal for breakfast at the most but all meals are fast food or restaurant food every day of every week. There are people out there who do live that way and raising their kids the same way.0 -
perkymommy wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.
IMO, it's the idea that it's not good food to be eating. I know eating it every single meal isn't typical of what people really do If you knew the story behind all that crap is prepared in factories you wouldn't eat it. But yes, I realize that man took it to the extreme. And the really overweight/obese people don't get that way eating only home cooked meals. If you believe that then you are being fooled. Processed foods maybe, but mostly fast foods.
Really?? My grandmother was obeist and she never ate fast food. She only ate home made foods, her problem was that she ate way to much then she burned.1 -
perkymommy wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.
IMO, it's the idea that it's not good food to be eating. I know eating it every single meal isn't typical of what people really do If you knew the story behind all that crap is prepared in factories you wouldn't eat it. But yes, I realize that man took it to the extreme. And the really overweight/obese people don't get that way eating only home cooked meals. If you believe that then you are being fooled. Processed foods maybe, but mostly fast foods.
I know a fair amount about industrial food preparation and I still eat some foods that are prepared in factories. What is it that you think I don't know?0 -
stevencloser wrote: »
Sometimes you are in the mood for a good comedy.0 -
perkymommy wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.
IMO, it's the idea that it's not good food to be eating. I know eating it every single meal isn't typical of what people really do If you knew the story behind all that crap is prepared in factories you wouldn't eat it. But yes, I realize that man took it to the extreme. And the really overweight/obese people don't get that way eating only home cooked meals. If you believe that then you are being fooled. Processed foods maybe, but mostly fast foods.
Must've been all the fast food.
High food availability + sedentary lifestyle = becoming fat.1 -
stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.
IMO, it's the idea that it's not good food to be eating. I know eating it every single meal isn't typical of what people really do If you knew the story behind all that crap is prepared in factories you wouldn't eat it. But yes, I realize that man took it to the extreme. And the really overweight/obese people don't get that way eating only home cooked meals. If you believe that then you are being fooled. Processed foods maybe, but mostly fast foods.
Must've been all the fast food.
High food availability + sedentary lifestyle = becoming fat.
Yep.0 -
perkymommy wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.
IMO, it's the idea that it's not good food to be eating. I know eating it every single meal isn't typical of what people really do If you knew the story behind all that crap is prepared in factories you wouldn't eat it. But yes, I realize that man took it to the extreme. And the really overweight/obese people don't get that way eating only home cooked meals. If you believe that then you are being fooled. Processed foods maybe, but mostly fast foods.
Really?? My grandmother was obeist and she never ate fast food. She only ate home made foods, her problem was that she ate way to much then she burned.
My father never ate fast food and he was also obese. He just loved his home-cooked meals.0 -
perkymommy wrote: »And the really overweight/obese people don't get that way eating only home cooked meals. If you believe that then you are being fooled. Processed foods maybe, but mostly fast foods.
I did. I stopped eating fast food years ago, because I don't like it. I eat it maybe once a year on a road trip. So I can say without question that it had exactly zero to do with my weight gain. I mostly cook from whole foods, and was more obsessive about that while I was gaining weight than when losing or now. I DID go to restaurants on occasion, but typically the kinds that use whole food, high quality ingredients (and often tell you the farm everything is from). (I do the restaurant thing as often now.)
Despite this, I was quite obese.0 -
perkymommy wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
I watched this one once upon a time and enjoyed it. But he drastically cut down his activity (taking cabs everywhere) and increased his consumption at the same time. Of course he gained weight. His results haven't been replicated when others keep the variables a little more steady.
Yes I know this. But it's the idea behind how bad fast food is for a person. And I do personally know people close to me who eat only fast food for every single meal. They may eat cereal for breakfast at the most but all meals are fast food or restaurant food every day of every week. There are people out there who do live that way and raising their kids the same way.
But there's a huge range of options between "Maybe you shouldn't overeat fast food every day" and the biased documentary that Morgan Spurlock put out. When I give information to people, I try my best to make it as accurate and even-handed as possible. "Supersize Me" doesn't qualify, imo.1 -
I gained all of my weight eating home cooked meals. It's about the calories, not who prepared it.1
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I'll go ahead and leave this here to try to head off the trifecta...
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-the-movie-fed-up-make-sense/0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »I'll go ahead and leave this here to try to head off the trifecta...
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-the-movie-fed-up-make-sense/
But wait, have I told you about the excellent documentary "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead"?0 -
You can't fight faith with facts. People are going to believe what they want to believe. Unfortunately, the truth is never that sexy or exciting...0
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perkymommy wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.
IMO, it's the idea that it's not good food to be eating. I know eating it every single meal isn't typical of what people really do If you knew the story behind all that crap is prepared in factories you wouldn't eat it. But yes, I realize that man took it to the extreme. And the really overweight/obese people don't get that way eating only home cooked meals. If you believe that then you are being fooled. Processed foods maybe, but mostly fast foods.
That was the idea behind the movie yes, but the problem is he didn't prove anything aside from "eating too many calories will result in weight gain" and we already knew that. You can very easily become obese eating home cooked meals the exact same way he did eating McDonald's.0 -
perkymommy wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.
IMO, it's the idea that it's not good food to be eating. I know eating it every single meal isn't typical of what people really do If you knew the story behind all that crap is prepared in factories you wouldn't eat it. But yes, I realize that man took it to the extreme. And the really overweight/obese people don't get that way eating only home cooked meals. If you believe that then you are being fooled. Processed foods maybe, but mostly fast foods.
I started using this website at 300+ pounds, and have always eaten home-cooked meals 99% of the time. If you consumed as much olive oil and mixed nuts as I did, you would be 300 pounds too. For every "supersize me" guy you will find a person who virtually lives on fast food and does not seem to gain any weight.
Here is a map from 2010 of the countries with the highest consumption of fruits, vegetables, beans and legumes, nuts and seeds, whole grains, milk, total polyunsaturated fatty acids, fish, plant omega-3s, and dietary fibre (green is higher):
You will notice that Turkey is shown as green, yet it has an obesity rate close to 30%. My own country (just a small blip on that map) has the greenest green color with a very prominent homecooking culture, yet we have a 30% obesity rate - too much oil and fatty cuts of meat.
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https://scamreportdivision.wordpress.com/2015/03/22/robert-lustig-is-now-obese-after-avoiding-sugar-and-eating-meat-the-bitter-truth-video-claims-are-debunked/
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/brainwaves/is-sugar-really-toxic-sifting-through-the-evidence/
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/high-fructose-corn-syrup/0 -
I've not watched the whole thing, just the first 10 mins or so
I just thought it would help motivate/push those struggling to lose weight
Another one popped up on google, but is from the BBC so can not be watched overseas
You say it is just the simple case of burning more than you eat, nobody is denying that, I'm pretty sure everyone knows that, however, if it was really that simple, there would be no need for fitbit, gyms, this site and many other health sites, those ripoff lose weight tablets/meds/drinks etc, there would be no overweight/obese people, the problem is that some/many people need that push, eyes opening, my niece for one...... her younger brother eats the same foods, they play on their ipads nearly all day, but he is skinny and she is well....not healthy to put it nicely, unfortunately she won't listen, but she is still young
Alot of us have no problems losing weight etc, it is those that do that need the motivation/push, the fact they are here, and probably have a fitbit or something similar suggests that they want to lose weight
For me, it was the fitbit and now the fitbit challenges and people like Colin in them etc (hope you don't mind me mentioning your name) that help push me, being competitive and all, although it is only really recently that I've started with the challenges
so instead of just saying no it is not worth watching, why not post one or something that will help those that are struggling to lose weight etc
but before you think I am attacking you and go on the offensive, don't bother, that is not my intention
I just want to help those struggling, which is the whole point of fitbit and this forum0 -
stevencloser wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »"Super Size Me" is another good one for those who eat a lot of fast food.
And then there's John Cisna who showed that guy was full of *kitten* because he purposely overate to an extreme degree.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10?IR=T
Maybe I should make a documentary of me eating only homecooked meals and grossly overeating them until I'm fat. There's good money in fearmongering.
You already know where to find people, unfortunately.
There are definitely things that can motivate people, but at the same time, I hate things that show up that also introduce a fear of something to people. I don't really take the time out to search ( @wytey ) but the ones that I have seen, there just always seems to be something not quite on the level with most of them. Because let's face it, the point is to make money to cover the cost (and generate pure revenue) of the videos. And no, not everyone knows that it's about burning more than you eat, because if that was the case, we'd never hear "fat burning cleanse / detox / superfood" again.0 -
I've not watched the whole thing, just the first 10 mins or so
I just thought it would help motivate/push those struggling to lose weight
Another one popped up on google, but is from the BBC so can not be watched overseas
You say it is just the simple case of burning more than you eat, nobody is denying that, I'm pretty sure everyone knows that, however, if it was really that simple, there would be no need for fitbit, gyms, this site and many other health sites, those ripoff lose weight tablets/meds/drinks etc, there would be no overweight/obese people, the problem is that some/many people need that push, eyes opening, my niece for one...... her younger brother eats the same foods, they play on their ipads nearly all day, but he is skinny and she is well....not healthy to put it nicely, unfortunately she won't listen, but she is still young
Alot of us have no problems losing weight etc, it is those that do that need the motivation/push, the fact they are here, and probably have a fitbit or something similar suggests that they want to lose weight
For me, it was the fitbit and now the fitbit challenges and people like Colin in them etc (hope you don't mind me mentioning your name) that help push me, being competitive and all, although it is only really recently that I've started with the challenges
so instead of just saying no it is not worth watching, why not post one or something that will help those that are struggling to lose weight etc
but before you think I am attacking you and go on the offensive, don't bother, that is not my intention
I just want to help those struggling, which is the whole point of fitbit and this forum
I'm not understanding the connection between using a FitBit, and believing in a propaganda piece like the video posted?
No one is denying that there is an obesity epidemic. Many of us on here have been overweight/obese/morbidly obese. All of us here are using MFP in some way, and many use FitBits and other activity trackers, I know I do.
However, there are a lot of people looking for a scapegoat, like sugar, to blame for their weight or inability to lose weight. What we are saying is that sugar itself isn't to blame, too many calories are to blame.0 -
hence those post from people asking why they are not losing weight etc, most know, but not everyone and then those that do want to lose weight, not all of them have that motivation and need that push
at the end of the day, pretty much everything is about money/profit
even fitbit0 -
Worth watching if you have insomnia maybe...0
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