Are You Becoming a Sugar Addict?
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GaleHawkins wrote: »http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/news/energy/2010/12/101222/animal-fat-tyson-renewable-fuel/
@ReaderGirl3 that is awesome when we find a way of eating that is realistic and sustainable long term that improves our odds of gaining longevity. It was a game changer for my life and health.
One thing that has puzzled me for the past 1.5 years on MFP is why some say sugars/carbs are the best thing for their longevity and others say the complete opposite.
Being an old guy I relate everything back to motor vehicles. The above 'green' news got me to thinking on human types of fuels that might explain the dichotomy of posts on MFP concerning preferred fuel types we run on.
militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=62
The Army at one point had multi fuel trucks that could run on either gas or diesel fuel.
It hit me some of us seem to be dipped out of gene pools that installed gas engines in us and others got diesel engines. We know humans are multi fuel burns but it seems we each have our own preference as to fuel types that we run on.
Clearly all that post on MFP can read and write and have access to current technologies meaning a high degree of intelligence most likely by all who post. So why the dichotomy of sugar/carb threads?
From the first post above we see both plants and animals can be used to make fuels for vehicles. In your case it seems you were perhaps built with a 'gas' engine due to genetic/environmental/etc influences when I was built with a 'diesel' engine.
While we both can run on gas (carbs) or diesel (fats) our bodies have a preference is my current thought. Can you see this as a possibility?
I'm guessing it's the same mechanism at work as why different peoples swear that their religion is right and others are wrong.
Hey you picked up on the fact that dieting talk is more or less the same as talking about religion when we think everyone should eat like us.
There no good/evil foods and to think there is moves food discussions to become a religious discussing. At least with eating issues there is some science behind it.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »MommyL2015 wrote: »I've lost 50 pounds eating lots of sugar. Funny, that.
I guess we are all different because I lost 50 pounds by going off sugar and all grains in my case. Other side effects like good joint and muscle pain control in 30 days after having it for 40 years, serious IBS resolved in 6 months. Blood work and health at 65 are better than at 45. Just goes to show until we try different WOE's we just never know.
It wasn't until I realized I didn't need to have a special way of eating that everything finally clicked. I don't have a label for how I eat, I just eat less than I did before. If you have medical issues, it makes sense to eat in a way that makes you feel better, but I don't have medical issues. I did have borderline high cholesterol, but that has been resolved with my weight loss.0 -
I haven't read all of the comments but can already tell this is controversial info. All I can say is from my experience, sugar is addictive. I've been in the middle of sugar binges and I swear if someone tried to take my sugar fix away from me I would turn from sweet little grandma to raving psycho-*kitten* in 2.3 seconds! I get the high, then burn out terribly after I crash. It affects my emotions and my energy levels, sometimes for as much as 24 hours after the binge. It's my Achilles' heel.0
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Mouse_Potato wrote: »
If eating kittens put your calories above TDEE, of course they made you fat! You could just as easily have overeaten puppies, though. Kitties aren't evil!0 -
Eaten almost 400g of carbs so far today - those evil carbs (a lot from sugar) got me up a load of hills.
Getting to the summit of big climbs also releases dopamine, it's quite addictive.
Evil, evil hills - the countryside really does need ironing.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/news/energy/2010/12/101222/animal-fat-tyson-renewable-fuel/
@ReaderGirl3 that is awesome when we find a way of eating that is realistic and sustainable long term that improves our odds of gaining longevity. It was a game changer for my life and health.
One thing that has puzzled me for the past 1.5 years on MFP is why some say sugars/carbs are the best thing for their longevity and others say the complete opposite.
Being an old guy I relate everything back to motor vehicles. The above 'green' news got me to thinking on human types of fuels that might explain the dichotomy of posts on MFP concerning preferred fuel types we run on.
militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=62
The Army at one point had multi fuel trucks that could run on either gas or diesel fuel.
It hit me some of us seem to be dipped out of gene pools that installed gas engines in us and others got diesel engines. We know humans are multi fuel burns but it seems we each have our own preference as to fuel types that we run on.
Clearly all that post on MFP can read and write and have access to current technologies meaning a high degree of intelligence most likely by all who post. So why the dichotomy of sugar/carb threads?
From the first post above we see both plants and animals can be used to make fuels for vehicles. In your case it seems you were perhaps built with a 'gas' engine due to genetic/environmental/etc influences when I was built with a 'diesel' engine.
While we both can run on gas (carbs) or diesel (fats) our bodies have a preference is my current thought. Can you see this as a possibility?
Well, going by my family history I should be a type 2 diabetic right now, like many of my family members. And back in 2012 my glucose numbers were indeed flirting with prediabetes and I was on my way to following the family trend. Thing is, every single family member that is/was a diabetic, is/was overweight or obese. When my doctor saw that, he told me to focus on losing the extra weight to improve my glucose numbers. He didn't tell me to cut out a bunch of foods or try an extreme woe. Just lose the extra poundage. I followed his advice and it worked. I'm now one of the few in my family who are a healthy weight and I'm also one of the few who have no health issues.
I've had glucose numbers in the 80s since the month I first began transitioning into maintenance, back in April of 2013. I haven't changed my 'fuel' at all (well, I did switch from regular coke to diet, so there is that
). I still eat sugar, grains etc. I feel my best when my carb levels are over 100g a day. I wake up at 6am full of energy, I have no physical issues, my cholesterol numbers are great (triglycerides are a 49), blood pressure good, etc etc.
We are all definitely different-genetics, ages, gender, weight loss histories etc etc. As long as we each figure out how to meet our own goals, that's what counts 0 -
Am I a sugar addict? No.
How do I know this? Because I'm an addict to a controlled substance and the symptoms I show for my current addiction are not appearing when I eat sugar (in any form).
Just because your body likes something, doesn't mean your addicted to it. If that were the case, I'd be stalking the streets of Brussels right now hoping to run into JCVD buying fresh bread.0 -
Am I a sugar addict? No.
How do I know this? Because I'm an addict to a controlled substance and the symptoms I show for my current addiction are not appearing when I eat sugar (in any form).
Just because your body likes something, doesn't mean your addicted to it. If that were the case, I'd be stalking the streets of Brussels right now hoping to run into JCVD buying fresh bread.
That is awesome. I wonder if those of us who seem to get tripped up by sugar may have something genetically that sets us up to this type of carb addiction? Alcohol addiction was a serious problem in the lives of all of my uncles on my dad's side of the family.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »Am I a sugar addict? No.
How do I know this? Because I'm an addict to a controlled substance and the symptoms I show for my current addiction are not appearing when I eat sugar (in any form).
Just because your body likes something, doesn't mean your addicted to it. If that were the case, I'd be stalking the streets of Brussels right now hoping to run into JCVD buying fresh bread.
That is awesome. I wonder if those of us who seem to get tripped up by sugar may have something genetically that sets us up to this type of carb addiction? Alcohol addiction was a serious problem in the lives of all of my uncles on my dad's side of the family.
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Alcohol/sugar/obsessive and compulsive behaviors. Nature/nurture. I think both. I also think both are manageable with knowledge and behavior modification. I do think some people have a stronger pull toward activities and substances that boost certain brain neurotransmitters; and that it is genetic in origin, both triggered and made worse by the (excessive) behavior.0 -
cmriverside wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Am I a sugar addict? No.
How do I know this? Because I'm an addict to a controlled substance and the symptoms I show for my current addiction are not appearing when I eat sugar (in any form).
Just because your body likes something, doesn't mean your addicted to it. If that were the case, I'd be stalking the streets of Brussels right now hoping to run into JCVD buying fresh bread.
That is awesome. I wonder if those of us who seem to get tripped up by sugar may have something genetically that sets us up to this type of carb addiction? Alcohol addiction was a serious problem in the lives of all of my uncles on my dad's side of the family.
*ding*ding*ding
Alcohol/sugar/obsessive and compulsive behaviors. Nature/nurture. I say both. I also say both are manageable with knowledge and behavior modification. I do think some people have a stronger pull toward activities and substances that boost certain brain neurotransmitters, and that it is genetic.
Because my father stopped drinking at age 16 I was never around alcohol and while my dad never said Do not drink alcohol I saw what it did to others and knew the obsessive and compulsive behavior trait was in me so I did not drink. Yet I could knock out a full size cake in one day. Now that I only eat food high in fats I get full and my desire to eat another bit is gone. That never happened once eating cake.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Am I a sugar addict? No.
How do I know this? Because I'm an addict to a controlled substance and the symptoms I show for my current addiction are not appearing when I eat sugar (in any form).
Just because your body likes something, doesn't mean your addicted to it. If that were the case, I'd be stalking the streets of Brussels right now hoping to run into JCVD buying fresh bread.
That is awesome. I wonder if those of us who seem to get tripped up by sugar may have something genetically that sets us up to this type of carb addiction? Alcohol addiction was a serious problem in the lives of all of my uncles on my dad's side of the family.
*ding*ding*ding
Alcohol/sugar/obsessive and compulsive behaviors. Nature/nurture. I say both. I also say both are manageable with knowledge and behavior modification. I do think some people have a stronger pull toward activities and substances that boost certain brain neurotransmitters, and that it is genetic.
Because my father stopped drinking at age 16 I was never around alcohol and while my dad never said Do not drink alcohol I saw what it did to others and knew the obsessive and compulsive behavior trait was in me so I did not drink. Yet I could knock out a full size cake in one day. Now that I only eat food high in fats I get full and my desire to eat another bit is gone. That never happened once eating cake.
I'm with you on the sugar and alcohol having a link, and the fact that alcohol metabolizes as a sugar doesn't bode well for those who pick up one after getting off the other. I've seen this intake-seesaw many times. Recovering alcoholic becomes obsessed with sugary treats, and people who lose weight by low carb or gastric bypass picking up the drink. It's a far too common transference/experience both here and on addiction sites for them to not be related, biochemically or neurologically.0 -
cmriverside wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Am I a sugar addict? No.
How do I know this? Because I'm an addict to a controlled substance and the symptoms I show for my current addiction are not appearing when I eat sugar (in any form).
Just because your body likes something, doesn't mean your addicted to it. If that were the case, I'd be stalking the streets of Brussels right now hoping to run into JCVD buying fresh bread.
That is awesome. I wonder if those of us who seem to get tripped up by sugar may have something genetically that sets us up to this type of carb addiction? Alcohol addiction was a serious problem in the lives of all of my uncles on my dad's side of the family.
*ding*ding*ding
Alcohol/sugar/obsessive and compulsive behaviors. Nature/nurture. I say both. I also say both are manageable with knowledge and behavior modification. I do think some people have a stronger pull toward activities and substances that boost certain brain neurotransmitters, and that it is genetic.
Because my father stopped drinking at age 16 I was never around alcohol and while my dad never said Do not drink alcohol I saw what it did to others and knew the obsessive and compulsive behavior trait was in me so I did not drink. Yet I could knock out a full size cake in one day. Now that I only eat food high in fats I get full and my desire to eat another bit is gone. That never happened once eating cake.
I'm with you on the sugar and alcohol having a link, and the fact that alcohol metabolizes as a sugar doesn't bode well for those who pick up one after getting off the other. I've seen this intake-seesaw many times. Recovering alcoholic becomes obsessed with sugary treats, and people who lose weight by low carb or gastric bypass picking up the drink. It's a far too common transference/experience both here and on addiction sites for them to not be related, biochemically or neurologically.
Since you mentioned I have a friend that traded beer for cupcakes. Inflation has set in but less troubles with the wife and law.
The obsessive and compulsive thing is very controlling. Now at the age of 65 with recovering health due to eating foods that do not seem to trigger that kind of behavior I can now see it in others which helps me break the cycle in myself better. It is not just with food.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Am I a sugar addict? No.
How do I know this? Because I'm an addict to a controlled substance and the symptoms I show for my current addiction are not appearing when I eat sugar (in any form).
Just because your body likes something, doesn't mean your addicted to it. If that were the case, I'd be stalking the streets of Brussels right now hoping to run into JCVD buying fresh bread.
That is awesome. I wonder if those of us who seem to get tripped up by sugar may have something genetically that sets us up to this type of carb addiction? Alcohol addiction was a serious problem in the lives of all of my uncles on my dad's side of the family.
*ding*ding*ding
Alcohol/sugar/obsessive and compulsive behaviors. Nature/nurture. I say both. I also say both are manageable with knowledge and behavior modification. I do think some people have a stronger pull toward activities and substances that boost certain brain neurotransmitters, and that it is genetic.
Because my father stopped drinking at age 16 I was never around alcohol and while my dad never said Do not drink alcohol I saw what it did to others and knew the obsessive and compulsive behavior trait was in me so I did not drink. Yet I could knock out a full size cake in one day. Now that I only eat food high in fats I get full and my desire to eat another bit is gone. That never happened once eating cake.
I'm with you on the sugar and alcohol having a link, and the fact that alcohol metabolizes as a sugar doesn't bode well for those who pick up one after getting off the other. I've seen this intake-seesaw many times. Recovering alcoholic becomes obsessed with sugary treats, and people who lose weight by low carb or gastric bypass picking up the drink. It's a far too common transference/experience both here and on addiction sites for them to not be related, biochemically or neurologically.
Since you mentioned I have a friend that traded beer for cupcakes. Inflation has set in but less troubles with the wife and law.
The obsessive and compulsive thing is very controlling. Now at the age of 65 with recovering health due to eating foods that do not seem to trigger that kind of behavior I can now see it in others which helps me break the cycle in myself better. It is not just with food.
No, it's not. And there is a significant psychological component to this that has to be addressed at the same time. You don't just "put down" the cupcake - there has to be a process of learning and understanding and working with the healthy side of an obsessive nature. Seeing results physically and psychologically is pretty great. Food logging is a great distraction/learning device for those who need to figure out their carb desires.
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cmriverside wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »Am I a sugar addict? No.
How do I know this? Because I'm an addict to a controlled substance and the symptoms I show for my current addiction are not appearing when I eat sugar (in any form).
Just because your body likes something, doesn't mean your addicted to it. If that were the case, I'd be stalking the streets of Brussels right now hoping to run into JCVD buying fresh bread.
That is awesome. I wonder if those of us who seem to get tripped up by sugar may have something genetically that sets us up to this type of carb addiction? Alcohol addiction was a serious problem in the lives of all of my uncles on my dad's side of the family.
*ding*ding*ding
Alcohol/sugar/obsessive and compulsive behaviors. Nature/nurture. I say both. I also say both are manageable with knowledge and behavior modification. I do think some people have a stronger pull toward activities and substances that boost certain brain neurotransmitters, and that it is genetic.
Because my father stopped drinking at age 16 I was never around alcohol and while my dad never said Do not drink alcohol I saw what it did to others and knew the obsessive and compulsive behavior trait was in me so I did not drink. Yet I could knock out a full size cake in one day. Now that I only eat food high in fats I get full and my desire to eat another bit is gone. That never happened once eating cake.
I'm with you on the sugar and alcohol having a link, and the fact that alcohol metabolizes as a sugar doesn't bode well for those who pick up one after getting off the other. I've seen this intake-seesaw many times. Recovering alcoholic becomes obsessed with sugary treats, and people who lose weight by low carb or gastric bypass picking up the drink. It's a far too common transference/experience both here and on addiction sites for them to not be related, biochemically or neurologically.
Since you mentioned I have a friend that traded beer for cupcakes. Inflation has set in but less troubles with the wife and law.
The obsessive and compulsive thing is very controlling. Now at the age of 65 with recovering health due to eating foods that do not seem to trigger that kind of behavior I can now see it in others which helps me break the cycle in myself better. It is not just with food.
No, it's not. And there is a significant psychological component to this that has to be addressed at the same time. You don't just "put down" the cupcake - there has to be a process of learning and understanding and working with the healthy side of an obsessive nature. Seeing results physically and psychologically is pretty great. Food logging is a great distraction/learning device for those who need to figure out their carb desires.
I never thought of it in that way but now understand logging/counting could be productive in discovering and working through an eating disorder. If we do not know something is broken we never try to fix it.0 -
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Judge Judy and cat gifs - my day is complete. 0
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RosieRose7673 wrote: »Hugging puppies and kitties releases dopamine too...
What about looking at gifs of adorable kittens batting their teeny-weeny paws gently on the face of a patient but possibly befuddled dog? I really feel like I'm getting a dopamine rush, and I may need to go out and knock over a liquor store so I can buy more gifs like that.0 -
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