My wife is at a plateau...
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Some of you people need to mid your own bizzwack and unless you're answering the question, what's it to you why she's not posting or why she wants to bulk.
If she's not losing weight, she's not in deficit. She can add a bit cardio see if that can do help with a cut0 -
I agree with upping the cardio...that's what I did and I undereat by 100 on some of my days...I started losing weight again and am probably 3 pounds away from goal. I am over 50 years old and work the night shift.
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Traveler120 wrote: »Springfield1970 wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »
What for? What's the point of losing then gaining all over again? Why does a woman need to 'bulk' unless she's a bodybuilder? Seems pointless. If she wants to build muscle, she can simply train. If she wants to lose fat, get into a calorie deficit through eating less or moving more or both.... Her goal is to lean out a little more before she bulks.
On a cut you target fat loss, and it's a good idea to get sub 20% body fat before, as the leaner you are before you start, the more likely you are to gain a higher muscle ratio on the bulk.
So if you mostly lose fat on a cut, gain half and half muscle on a bulk, then lose mostly fat on the final cut you are very likely to completely recompose your body.
This is how I went from over 30% body fat to 15%. Not in one go, in two or three cycles. My body totally changed. Recomps don't work for me.
And I went from 32% to 17% body fat without going through a "get-thin-get-fat" cycle. And I plan to drop another couple points through proper diet and exercise and don't see the need to get fat again first.
Of course you can drop body fat from dieting.
But there's no way a 45 year old woman such as myself is going to build any muscle at all without excess calories and a heavy progressive weight lifting routine.0 -
She would also like to know which posters were mentioned. by these 2...Recomp and cut/bulk are both viable options. Neither of them need to be debated in this thread. If the OP's wife wants to cut/bulk that's her prerogative.
OP, is she lifting now? TDEEs can vary widely, even at the same height. A previous poster said hers is in the 1800s at 5'6". Mine is in the 2300s at the same height. Muscle mass and activity level make a big difference.I just posted a similar frustration for myself. I increased calories from 1200-1400 to 1600-1700 and dropped five pounds in two weeks. Idk her age but from what I've read women over 40 get really good at storing fat.
Not sure what you're asking but I'm guessing it was about activity level?
I lift weights 3-4 times a week. I guess you'd say I "lift heavy", though that phrase is getting annoying to me at this point. Anyway, I do that and I aim to walk 10,000+ steps per day. Once in awhile I run but it's normally when I want to get my steps in and am running low on time. I'm 3 months away from turning 40. I have no idea what my body fat% is. My body shape is different enough from the women on the body fat charts that I just really have no idea. Maybe 25%, maybe 35%.
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Springfield1970 wrote: »shawna101711 wrote: »You don't have to eat above maintenance to build muscle. Eat at maintenance with a higher protein intake and you can build muscle AND lose fat. Bulking seems pointless to me as well.
Maybe a little for someone that has never lifted before but, no generally you cannot build muscle without an excess of calories. I tried everything, and bulking and cutting totally did it for me. But you have to be meticulous and lift heavy and progressively.
false...recomp is a very viable option. However it is the slower of the two...
I get bulking just prefer not to do it personally so recomp it is.
OP if your wife doesn't want to be in a deficit but leaner see how she feels about a recomp.
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Springfield1970 wrote: »shawna101711 wrote: »You don't have to eat above maintenance to build muscle. Eat at maintenance with a higher protein intake and you can build muscle AND lose fat. Bulking seems pointless to me as well.
Maybe a little for someone that has never lifted before but, no generally you cannot build muscle without an excess of calories. I tried everything, and bulking and cutting totally did it for me. But you have to be meticulous and lift heavy and progressively.
false...recomp is a very viable option. However it is the slower of the two...
I get bulking just prefer not to do it personally so recomp it is.
OP if your wife doesn't want to be in a deficit but leaner see how she feels about a recomp.
Recomping is slow, hard to track and monitor, and for the rare person that can eat exactly to maintenance, has inhuman amounts of patience and is experienced in lifting/bulking and cutting. I find it an inferior and very hazy way of doing it.0 -
Springfield1970 wrote: »Springfield1970 wrote: »shawna101711 wrote: »You don't have to eat above maintenance to build muscle. Eat at maintenance with a higher protein intake and you can build muscle AND lose fat. Bulking seems pointless to me as well.
Maybe a little for someone that has never lifted before but, no generally you cannot build muscle without an excess of calories. I tried everything, and bulking and cutting totally did it for me. But you have to be meticulous and lift heavy and progressively.
false...recomp is a very viable option. However it is the slower of the two...
I get bulking just prefer not to do it personally so recomp it is.
OP if your wife doesn't want to be in a deficit but leaner see how she feels about a recomp.
Recomping is slow, hard to track and monitor, and for the rare person that can eat exactly to maintenance, has inhuman amounts of patience and is experienced in lifting/bulking and cutting. I find it an inferior and very hazy way of doing it.
it is slow but not hard to track or monitor... you don't have to eat exactly at maintenance.
You can eat just below or just over giving yourself a range.
No experience required in cut/bulk cycles required.
It might not be as "perfect" of a situation as bulk/cut cycles but some of us have a hard time wrapping our heads around gaining weight on purpose because with all bulks come some fat...
It is a personal preference based on personal history.
I am saying it is a viable option.
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@jemhh @aduck2016
by "poster" i think I meant "thread"... like i said, we recently found out about the MFP community and there's some lingo we're not used to... i may be wrong again... don't worry yourself to answer it, thanks anyways.lemonychild wrote: »Some of you people need to mid your own bizzwack and unless you're answering the question, what's it to you why she's not posting or why she wants to bulk.
If she's not losing weight, she's not in deficit. She can add a bit cardio see if that can do help with a cut
This is true. My wife just wanted the question answered. Which is why she isn't comfortable to be a part of the community yet. I, on the other hand, can tolerate all criticism and discern which is constructive and which is not. I appreciate ALL comments, for what they're worth. I recognize we are all here to help each other out. Whether it be with wise words, a gentle push, or tough love.
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There are mistakes that people commonly make that cause them to not lose weight that we might be able to spot if you give us her username and her Diary Sharing settings are set to Public: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings0
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My first thought, I'm pleased to say wrongly, was domestic abuse. This is a pet hate of mine and I would hope everyone else's. My first picture was of a man deciding his wife was not loosing to the weight or shape he wanted her to be, trying to use a forum like this to support his expectations.
I can well understand someone not being at ease with things on here. I'm only able to say what I think but not add pictures, links, bold, quote, whatever.0 -
My first thought, I'm pleased to say wrongly, was domestic abuse. This is a pet hate of mine and I would hope everyone else's. My first picture was of a man deciding his wife was not loosing to the weight or shape he wanted her to be, trying to use a forum like this to support his expectations.
I can well understand someone not being at ease with things on here. I'm only able to say what I think but not add pictures, links, bold, quote, whatever.
That was one jaw-dropping leap you made. Sheesh.0 -
Sorry, when it, domestic abuse happens to someone you know and you discover its not easy to get out of, Its the pits. To react as I did shows to my mind that I actually care for the partner, even though I have been proved wrong I had to question his not her posting. Emotional control is just as damaging when it happens as actual violence.0
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My first thought, I'm pleased to say wrongly, was domestic abuse. This is a pet hate of mine and I would hope everyone else's. My first picture was of a man deciding his wife was not loosing to the weight or shape he wanted her to be, trying to use a forum like this to support his expectations.
I can well understand someone not being at ease with things on here. I'm only able to say what I think but not add pictures, links, bold, quote, whatever.
Whoa nelly. O.o
...lets not take a turn to Negative Town with your own issues projecting on innocent people. You could have easily kept that to yourself.0 -
Sorry, when it, domestic abuse happens to someone you know and you discover its not easy to get out of, Its the pits. To react as I did shows to my mind that I actually care for the partner, even though I have been proved wrong I had to question his not her posting. Emotional control is just as damaging when it happens as actual violence.
I would have no problem posting a question for my better half to get help from the MFP community since he isnt a poster and I am. I would be ticked had someone thought I had him in the basement<which we dont have> chained to our treadmill<which we also dont have> withholding lunch until he finished his run <which he also doesnt do>.0 -
Yeah, I was just seeing supportive partner. No wonder people do not like posting on forums.0
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@Fuzzipeg
Ohhh, I understand... no, that's not the case. But I'm glad you put that in perspective. This really happened before?? Or IS happening? That's quite unsettling... I apologize for causing the thought of it...
@kshama2001
I want to share her info, but I don't want to give it out if she's not ready to deal with other people. She likes doing things on her time. I respect that. Since she asked me for help that I didnt have the answers to, I asked them here.0 -
@kshama2001
I want to share her info, but I don't want to give it out if she's not ready to deal with other people. She likes doing things on her time. I respect that. Since she asked me for help that I didnt have the answers to, I asked them here.
That's fine. Let her know we can give better advice when we can see someone's diary.
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