CLA ???

AmandaJuneFit

Ive been on a rolde with weight loss so far. Started in Feb. at 217 and now i am down to 190. I really want to loose an other 30 lbs and was looking for an extra boost so i went and purchased a CLA product by the brand called Magum Nutraceutica. I am unsure if now i should take it after reading some reviews. Ive heard it promotes weight loss and will help get my BMI down, im currently sitting at 27.1 with a body fat percentage of 30.9%. I would like to get down to a 20% so I read this product would help. Im wondering if i should get my weight down first to 160 then start taking the product , or i should start now. Should i not take the product at all? I read a couple article that you need to be taking the product for a long time in order to see any results. I was hoping for something with more quick results. Now im skeptical about taking any products because ive been pretty good at my weight loss but , having trouble getting my body fat percentage down. Please help !!!

DaddieCat

It won't help. Nothing sold over the counter and without a prescription will. If it did, would anyone ever be overweight?

kshama2001

AmandaJuneFit wrote: »

Ive been on a rolde with weight loss so far. Started in Feb. at 217 and now i am down to 190. I really want to loose an other 30 lbs and was looking for an extra boost so i went and purchased a CLA product by the brand called Magum Nutraceutica. I am unsure if now i should take it after reading some reviews. Ive heard it promotes weight loss and will help get my BMI down, im currently sitting at 27.1 with a body fat percentage of 30.9%. I would like to get down to a 20% so I read this product would help. Im wondering if i should get my weight down first to 160 then start taking the product , or i should start now. Should i not take the product at all? I read a couple article that you need to be taking the product for a long time in order to see any results. I was hoping for something with more quick results. Now im skeptical about taking any products because ive been pretty good at my weight loss but , having trouble getting my body fat percentage down. Please help !!!

What's your weight lifting regimen?

Afura

Just a forwarning, we've had a few "pills and products" posts lately, so be prepared for the potential commentary fallout.
That being said, what exact one did you purchase? Magum Nturaceutica makes a few different things. The ACID?

AmandaJuneFit

Yes i purchased the Magnum acid isolate, now sort of regretting it wondering if i should return it or if it will actually help lower my body fat percentage and promote lean muscle mass.

AmandaJuneFit

I do minimal weight training, i weight train 3-5 times a week but don't push myself as hard i could/should.

AmandaJuneFit

wondering if i should be lifting heavy with small reps or lift light with more reps to tone everything up.

kuftae

I've taken CLA1500 before. It suppressed my appetite a little tiny bit (I think) but it didn't do that much at all. If you bought it already than try it but don't expect anything dramatic.

DaddieCat

AmandaJuneFit wrote: »

wondering if i should be lifting heavy with small reps or lift light with more reps to tone everything up.

Consider finding a program and following that. A well designed program is the best place for starters.

Starting Strength
Stronglifts
Ice Cream Fitness (which I think got renamed)
All Pro Beginner
Strong Curves
New Rules of Lifting

All good programs

Kay_Fancy

AmandaJuneFit wrote: »

Ive been on a rolde with weight loss so far. Started in Feb. at 217 and now i am down to 190. I really want to loose an other 30 lbs and was looking for an extra boost so i went and purchased a CLA product by the brand called Magum Nutraceutica. I am unsure if now i should take it after reading some reviews. Ive heard it promotes weight loss and will help get my BMI down, im currently sitting at 27.1 with a body fat percentage of 30.9%. I would like to get down to a 20% so I read this product would help. Im wondering if i should get my weight down first to 160 then start taking the product , or i should start now. Should i not take the product at all? I read a couple article that you need to be taking the product for a long time in order to see any results. I was hoping for something with more quick results. Now im skeptical about taking any products because ive been pretty good at my weight loss but , having trouble getting my body fat percentage down. Please help !!!

The person who said "It won't help" isn't a doctor and I'd also venture to state that they aren't as informed as they could be. There are clinical studies which can easily be found online (google scholar if you're in uni, bodybuilding.com has a lot of references) that prove the effectiveness of CLA in helping to metabolize lipids, but you have to know your dosage and how long you have to take it in order for it to be valuable. Its 1-.5 grams per day for a minimum of 8 weeks (based on my own research, you should investigate as well).

It is not a supplement for diet and exercise, but with those things it can help increase your lean body mass and reduce body fat. Combining them with BCAAs if you're strength training can also help.

Find a supplementation regimen that works for you, but know that consistency is really important. Don't waste your money if you know you won't keep up with it for a long time because otherwise you won't see results. I also recommend adding supplements in 4 week intervals, not all at once.

There are many people who will say "just eat real food" but when you're actually trying to build muscle and burn fat it can be really hard, and supplements can support you.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mike8.htm

MelaniaTrump

I clearly remember reading about this. My warehouse store sold it and I considered it.
It was proven to work in mice. Inconclusive in humans.

kuftae

AmandaJuneFit wrote: »

wondering if i should be lifting heavy with small reps or lift light with more reps to tone everything up.

I don't know where the idea of lift light/ high reps = "tone up" came from. Really, doing burnout sets with lighter weights is going to promote hypertrophy and more muscle mass. That's why bodybuilders train like that.

geneticsteacher

From what I have read, most studies of CLA have been in rats and mice. The few that I could find that were human studies, had very, very small study groups.

Wetcoaster

My go to resource

https://examine.com/supplements/conjugated-linoleic-acid/


Summary

All Essential Benefits/Effects/Facts & Information

Conjugated Linoleic Acid, or CLA, is a term used to refer to a mixture of fatty acids that have the general structure of linoleic acid (18 carbons in length, 2 double bonds) where the double bonds exist two carbons away from each other; they are all polyunsaturated fatty acids, and some may be trans fatty acids.

Although many exist, only two are commonly referred to. One called c9t11 (cis-9, trans-11) and the other t10c12 (trans-10, cis-12), named after what bond occurs where on the side chain.


CLA has been investigated to be a fat burner and health promoting agent due to its effect on a molecular signalling receptor family named PPAR which is related to fat burning, steroid signalling, inflammation, and glucose/lipid metabolism.


However, human studies on CLA are very unreliable and the overall effects seen with CLA are not overly potent as well as sometimes contradicting. CLA is a good research standard to investigated fatty acids and the PPAR system, but its usage as a supplement for personal goals is quite lacklustre.

CLA appears to be a good research molecule, since there is a lot of evidence after human ingestion and it was one of the first of its mechanisms (PPARa / PPARy modulator) to be used.

A pretty poor fat burner, and even more unreliable than it is bad at burning fat. It might make you lose enough fat to compensate for that cookie you had once.

It has no astounding other affects on health or anything, it just seems to be quite an overhyped and uneventful molecule(s)



https://www.2xu.com/ca/fat-burning-myths-debunked.html

L-CARNITINE

L-carnitine is found in red meats and dairy, but it's also produced in the body. Healthy people can synthesize enough carnitine in the liver and kidneys to survive, even when dietary carnitine is considered insufficient.

It's true that L-carnitine has an important role in fat metabolism, especially if you're doing low to moderate intensity exercise on an empty stomach. Advocates of L-carnitine believe that ingesting more L-carnitine will increase muscle carnitine concentration and therefore increase fat oxidation. However, carefully conducted studies have proven that eating extra carnitine does not produce greater muscle carnitine concentration. Obesity Reviews declares claims about supplementation with L-carnitine for fat loss are 'not only unfounded, but theoretically impossible'

kshama2001

AmandaJuneFit wrote: »

wondering if i should be lifting heavy with small reps or lift light with more reps to tone everything up.

Learn from my mistake and don't waste decades on high reps with light weights.

My library system has 'The New Rules of Lifting for Women: Lift Like a Man, Look Like a Goddess'; maybe yours does as well.

kshama2001

kuftae wrote: »

AmandaJuneFit wrote: »

wondering if i should be lifting heavy with small reps or lift light with more reps to tone everything up.

I don't know where the idea of lift light/ high reps = "tone up" came from. Really, doing burnout sets with lighter weights is going to promote hypertrophy and more muscle mass. That's why bodybuilders train like that.

Women's magazines, etc.