Supplement Q's~! && advice needed

Fernando618G

i need a good pre during and post workout supplement. First off let me explain what im trying to do,. im looking to gain lean muscle + cut. all advice would be greatly appreciated. i have been supplementing with a whey protein after workout and casein @ night. I need something for size some maybe a mono-hydrated Creation? + glutime pre workout? please leave your suggestions for me to read.

martyqueen52

To me you want the impossible. You can't "gain" lean muscle and get cut (lose weight). Granted muscle striations will show as you drop weight, but you won't gain any muscle. To gain muscle you must eat at a surplus of calories. Sometimes maitence works too.

You don't NEED a pre, during, or post, at all. If your diet is on point that should be more than sufficient. Personally, I take Citadel Nutrition Tier 1+, or a cup of coffee for a preworkout.

During? Gatorade Zero? BCAA drinks (glorified Gatorade)

Post.... eat dinner.

And creatine is fine... and you DO NOT need to load on it like some think.

I'm really not being mean or smart, but you sound like you've been reading a lot of bro science crap. Glutamine is crap too.

pinggolfer96

You're not gonna do both as the same time.
All muscle is lean
Don't stress about it cause you're routine of having a set pre/ intra/ and post workout routine probably won't stick or matter long term. Just stick to basics such as a carb source prior, creatine, bcaas intra (optional), and either a shake or meal after. Just get in some protein. Hitting overall macros will give you your best results. Not some set in stone routine or supplement

bigbuffbarry

Tren. Or just eat properly

Fernando618G

martyqueen52 wrote: »

To me you want the impossible. You can't "gain" lean muscle and get cut (lose weight). Granted muscle striations will show as you drop weight, but you won't gain any muscle. To gain muscle you must eat at a surplus of calories. Sometimes maitence works too.

You don't NEED a pre, during, or post, at all. If your diet is on point that should be more than sufficient. Personally, I take Citadel Nutrition Tier 1+, or a cup of coffee for a preworkout.

During? Gatorade Zero? BCAA drinks (glorified Gatorade)

Post.... eat dinner.

And creatine is fine... and you DO NOT need to load on it like some think.

I'm really not being mean or smart, but you sound like you've been reading a lot of bro science crap. Glutamine is crap too.

Get cut to me meaning more definition all around not lose weight I'm currently 170 & am happy at my weight class but my lean body weight is roughly 140 I want to try to get it to around 155ish & that will ultimately get the look I was aiming for but I do appreciate your advice

Fernando618G

Appreciate everyone's opinions tho thanks, maybe I have been over thinking this.

jessef593

Fernando618G wrote: »

martyqueen52 wrote: »

To me you want the impossible. You can't "gain" lean muscle and get cut (lose weight). Granted muscle striations will show as you drop weight, but you won't gain any muscle. To gain muscle you must eat at a surplus of calories. Sometimes maitence works too.

You don't NEED a pre, during, or post, at all. If your diet is on point that should be more than sufficient. Personally, I take Citadel Nutrition Tier 1+, or a cup of coffee for a preworkout.

During? Gatorade Zero? BCAA drinks (glorified Gatorade)

Post.... eat dinner.

And creatine is fine... and you DO NOT need to load on it like some think.

I'm really not being mean or smart, but you sound like you've been reading a lot of bro science crap. Glutamine is crap too.

Get cut to me meaning more definition all around not lose weight I'm currently 170 & am happy at my weight class but my lean body weight is roughly 140 I want to try to get it to around 155ish & that will ultimately get the look I was aiming for but I do appreciate your advice

155 lean mass really isn't all that great. I'm currently 178lbs 5'11" 12.5% body fat with 155-56lbs lean mass.

Just make sure you're lifting progressively. With good form. Hitting your calorie goals, which will need to be a surplus of you plan on gaining muscle. Creatine is alright, works for some, others not so much.
Glutamine you get from protein
I enjoy BCAAs when I cut but I rarely use them when bulking
Protein powder is good for a convenient source of protein because it's hard to eat enough chicken for that.
I also enjoy beta alanine since it allows for you to get acouple extra reps in on your sets which is always a plus, but it's definitely not needed