English Muffins

Why is there such a weight difference between a toasted and non-toasted English Muffin? I can't imagine 5 grams falling off in the toaster.
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  • Rocknut53
    Rocknut53 Posts: 1,794 Member
    Water. It dries up a bit when toasted.
  • Pam_1965
    Pam_1965 Posts: 137 Member
    Which weight is best to use?
  • Rocknut53
    Rocknut53 Posts: 1,794 Member
    I usually just weigh it after I toast it, it's not that big a difference. Other people might weigh before.
  • Pam_1965
    Pam_1965 Posts: 137 Member
    Thank you!
  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    edited May 2016
    5g isn't much to worry about is it? If it was something calorie dense like peanut butter or oils then yeah 5g adds up fast.

    Brb looking up English muffins.

    5g English muffin looks to be 10 calories, imo not enough to worry over.

    When in doubt use the larger weight.
  • Rocknut53
    Rocknut53 Posts: 1,794 Member
    edited May 2016
    Merkavar wrote: »
    5g isn't much to worry about is it? If it was something calorie dense like peanut butter or oils then yeah 5g adds up fast.

    Brb looking up English muffins.

    5g English muffin looks to be 10 calories, imo not enough to worry over.

    When in doubt use the larger weight.

    I was only referring to the muffin, certainly not peanut butter.
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
    Rocknut53 wrote: »
    Merkavar wrote: »
    5g isn't much to worry about is it? If it was something calorie dense like peanut butter or oils then yeah 5g adds up fast.

    Brb looking up English muffins.

    5g English muffin looks to be 10 calories, imo not enough to worry over.

    When in doubt use the larger weight.

    I was only referring to the muffin, certainly not peanut butter.

    He was comparing english muffins and peanut butter in terms of calorie density, not suggesting that you included it in the weight of your english muffins.
  • Losewtforlife4him
    Losewtforlife4him Posts: 423 Member
    Wait...you weigh your English muffin??? It says on the package that this is a serving for the calorie amount. Why do you need to weigh it? I've managed to lose weight just fine without weighing it. Please let me know why?
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
    edited May 2016
    joobey wrote: »
    Wait...you weigh your English muffin??? It says on the package that this is a serving for the calorie amount. Why do you need to weigh it? I've managed to lose weight just fine without weighing it. Please let me know why?

    Each English muffin has a different calorie count. People working on a very small deficit need to account for these differences, whether that means weighing food, not eating exercise calories, or adjusting the calorie goal down a bit.
  • Rocknut53
    Rocknut53 Posts: 1,794 Member
    Rocknut53 wrote: »
    Merkavar wrote: »
    5g isn't much to worry about is it? If it was something calorie dense like peanut butter or oils then yeah 5g adds up fast.

    Brb looking up English muffins.

    5g English muffin looks to be 10 calories, imo not enough to worry over.

    When in doubt use the larger weight.

    I was only referring to the muffin, certainly not peanut butter.

    He was comparing english muffins and peanut butter in terms of calorie density, not suggesting that you included it in the weight of your english muffins.

    Yes, I know that. We were just talking about a 5g difference and how it's not significant for an English muffin. It all started with "5g isn't much to worry about?"
  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,137 Member
    edited May 2016
    joobey wrote: »
    Wait...you weigh your English muffin??? It says on the package that this is a serving for the calorie amount. Why do you need to weigh it? I've managed to lose weight just fine without weighing it. Please let me know why?

    If you are eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then using the information on the package is probably ok. If you only have a 250 (or less) deficit per day then it can make a difference in weighing the food vs using the package info. The packages can be off my 10-20%. I weigh most things and if it is something I eat a lot I usually know if the packaging can be trusted (my laughing cow cheese is always spot on) or not (oatmeal is always off).
  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,137 Member
    I always weigh bagels and English muffins because I only eat one half of them and they aren't always split evenly. I weigh foods before cooking if possible.
  • WickedPineapple
    WickedPineapple Posts: 698 Member
    I noticed the same thing with other breads. My multigrain bread lost ~10 grams, so I always weigh my bread before I toast it. As others have mentioned, when you're on a small deficit these things add up.
  • Losewtforlife4him
    Losewtforlife4him Posts: 423 Member
    I noticed the same thing with other breads. My multigrain bread lost ~10 grams, so I always weigh my bread before I toast it. As others have mentioned, when you're on a small deficit these things add up.

    So do you not eat all of it if it's more or do you just eat half of it? When you talk about a small deficit do you mean as far as how many calories you can eat like 1200 calories a day? I get confused with what this means..

  • WickedPineapple
    WickedPineapple Posts: 698 Member
    edited May 2016
    joobey wrote: »
    I noticed the same thing with other breads. My multigrain bread lost ~10 grams, so I always weigh my bread before I toast it. As others have mentioned, when you're on a small deficit these things add up.

    So do you not eat all of it if it's more or do you just eat half of it? When you talk about a small deficit do you mean as far as how many calories you can eat like 1200 calories a day? I get confused with what this means..

    I still eat all of it, I just log it. For example, a serving size of my bread is 43 grams. I weigh it, and it weighs 49 grams. I log 49 grams on here (myfitnesspal). Sometimes grams aren't an option in the MFP entry for the bread (it might just be in slices), so then I'd log 1.14 slice (49 grams/43 grams).

    A deficit is calories burned throughout the day minus calories eaten. Calories burned should be higher than calories eaten if you want to lose weight. How quickly you lose weight is based on the deficit. The higher the deficit, the more quickly you lose. I have a very small deficit (~200 calories per day) because I only want to lose a couple pounds. So I burn 1750 calories per day and eat 1550 calories.

    It's very easy to accidentally eat 200 calories, which is why accuracy is very important with logging your food when you have a very small deficit.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited May 2016
    Pam_1965 wrote: »
    Which weight is best to use?

    The package information will typically be for non toasted.

    (I'm lax about packaged things since I don't eat a ton of them, and just would log the one muffin without weighing, personally, and never had a problem doing this. However, as you see above, many will point out that the weight can be off a decent amount.)
  • Losewtforlife4him
    Losewtforlife4him Posts: 423 Member
    joobey wrote: »
    I noticed the same thing with other breads. My multigrain bread lost ~10 grams, so I always weigh my bread before I toast it. As others have mentioned, when you're on a small deficit these things add up.

    So do you not eat all of it if it's more or do you just eat half of it? When you talk about a small deficit do you mean as far as how many calories you can eat like 1200 calories a day? I get confused with what this means..

    I still eat all of it, I just log it. For example, a serving size of my bread is 43 grams. I weigh it, and it weighs 49 grams. I log 49 grams on here (myfitnesspal). Sometimes grams aren't an option in the MFP entry for the bread (it might just be in slices), so then I'd log 1.14 slice (49 grams/43 grams).

    A deficit is calories burned throughout the day minus calories eaten. Calories burned should be higher than calories eaten if you want to lose weight. How quickly you lose weight is based on the deficit. The higher the deficit, the more quickly you lose. I have a very small deficit (~200 calories per day) because I only want to lose a couple pounds. So I burn 1750 calories per day and eat 1550 calories.

    It's very easy to accidentally eat 200 calories, which is why accuracy is very important with logging your food when you have a very small deficit.

    How do you figure how much you burn per day? I appreciate all of your help as well as others! Thanks!

  • Losewtforlife4him
    Losewtforlife4him Posts: 423 Member
    joobey wrote: »
    I noticed the same thing with other breads. My multigrain bread lost ~10 grams, so I always weigh my bread before I toast it. As others have mentioned, when you're on a small deficit these things add up.

    So do you not eat all of it if it's more or do you just eat half of it? When you talk about a small deficit do you mean as far as how many calories you can eat like 1200 calories a day? I get confused with what this means..

    I still eat all of it, I just log it. For example, a serving size of my bread is 43 grams. I weigh it, and it weighs 49 grams. I log 49 grams on here (myfitnesspal). Sometimes grams aren't an option in the MFP entry for the bread (it might just be in slices), so then I'd log 1.14 slice (49 grams/43 grams).

    A deficit is calories burned throughout the day minus calories eaten. Calories burned should be higher than calories eaten if you want to lose weight. How quickly you lose weight is based on the deficit. The higher the deficit, the more quickly you lose. I have a very small deficit (~200 calories per day) because I only want to lose a couple pounds. So I burn 1750 calories per day and eat 1550 calories.

    It's very easy to accidentally eat 200 calories, which is why accuracy is very important with logging your food when you have a very small deficit.

    So wouldn't it make more sense to program mpf to say you want to lose more so it's not so hard to accidentally eat 200 more calories? Even if you don't want or need to lose more? This just confuses me with the deficits, etc. I guess what I'm asking is why have a small deficit if it's harder? Do you get less calories to eat this way or more? Just wondering for when I get to the maintenance phase.

  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
    Doesn't it give you the calorie per muffin on the label? Just use that. Weighing each muffin individually would make me sad.
  • WickedPineapple
    WickedPineapple Posts: 698 Member
    joobey wrote: »
    joobey wrote: »
    I noticed the same thing with other breads. My multigrain bread lost ~10 grams, so I always weigh my bread before I toast it. As others have mentioned, when you're on a small deficit these things add up.

    So do you not eat all of it if it's more or do you just eat half of it? When you talk about a small deficit do you mean as far as how many calories you can eat like 1200 calories a day? I get confused with what this means..

    I still eat all of it, I just log it. For example, a serving size of my bread is 43 grams. I weigh it, and it weighs 49 grams. I log 49 grams on here (myfitnesspal). Sometimes grams aren't an option in the MFP entry for the bread (it might just be in slices), so then I'd log 1.14 slice (49 grams/43 grams).

    A deficit is calories burned throughout the day minus calories eaten. Calories burned should be higher than calories eaten if you want to lose weight. How quickly you lose weight is based on the deficit. The higher the deficit, the more quickly you lose. I have a very small deficit (~200 calories per day) because I only want to lose a couple pounds. So I burn 1750 calories per day and eat 1550 calories.

    It's very easy to accidentally eat 200 calories, which is why accuracy is very important with logging your food when you have a very small deficit.

    How do you figure how much you burn per day? I appreciate all of your help as well as others! Thanks!

    Experience. I've done many periods of maintenance. (Maintenance is when you eat to stay the same weight.) I logged my calories during maintenance and monitored my weight, so I knew how many calories I was eating while maintaining the same weight. It's also just an average (some days I eat more, some less).

    MFP will estimate your burn based on your gender, height, weight, and activity level. I started there and adjusted as needed.
  • WickedPineapple
    WickedPineapple Posts: 698 Member
    joobey wrote: »
    joobey wrote: »
    I noticed the same thing with other breads. My multigrain bread lost ~10 grams, so I always weigh my bread before I toast it. As others have mentioned, when you're on a small deficit these things add up.

    So do you not eat all of it if it's more or do you just eat half of it? When you talk about a small deficit do you mean as far as how many calories you can eat like 1200 calories a day? I get confused with what this means..

    I still eat all of it, I just log it. For example, a serving size of my bread is 43 grams. I weigh it, and it weighs 49 grams. I log 49 grams on here (myfitnesspal). Sometimes grams aren't an option in the MFP entry for the bread (it might just be in slices), so then I'd log 1.14 slice (49 grams/43 grams).

    A deficit is calories burned throughout the day minus calories eaten. Calories burned should be higher than calories eaten if you want to lose weight. How quickly you lose weight is based on the deficit. The higher the deficit, the more quickly you lose. I have a very small deficit (~200 calories per day) because I only want to lose a couple pounds. So I burn 1750 calories per day and eat 1550 calories.

    It's very easy to accidentally eat 200 calories, which is why accuracy is very important with logging your food when you have a very small deficit.

    So wouldn't it make more sense to program mpf to say you want to lose more so it's not so hard to accidentally eat 200 more calories? Even if you don't want or need to lose more? This just confuses me with the deficits, etc. I guess what I'm asking is why have a small deficit if it's harder? Do you get less calories to eat this way or more? Just wondering for when I get to the maintenance phase.

    Because I like to eat more. :) Also, being on a larger deficit can be hard on your body, especially if you're active. I'm a runner, and my runs suck if I eat less than 1500 calories or so per day.

    But yes, I could potentially set my calories lower and not worry so much about the logging. However, I've tried that already. One of my weight plateaus was caused by inaccurate logging (not weighing my food and just estimating). Weighing your food may seem like overkill, but once you start, it'll really open your eyes.
  • Losewtforlife4him
    Losewtforlife4him Posts: 423 Member
    joobey wrote: »
    joobey wrote: »
    I noticed the same thing with other breads. My multigrain bread lost ~10 grams, so I always weigh my bread before I toast it. As others have mentioned, when you're on a small deficit these things add up.

    So do you not eat all of it if it's more or do you just eat half of it? When you talk about a small deficit do you mean as far as how many calories you can eat like 1200 calories a day? I get confused with what this means..

    I still eat all of it, I just log it. For example, a serving size of my bread is 43 grams. I weigh it, and it weighs 49 grams. I log 49 grams on here (myfitnesspal). Sometimes grams aren't an option in the MFP entry for the bread (it might just be in slices), so then I'd log 1.14 slice (49 grams/43 grams).

    A deficit is calories burned throughout the day minus calories eaten. Calories burned should be higher than calories eaten if you want to lose weight. How quickly you lose weight is based on the deficit. The higher the deficit, the more quickly you lose. I have a very small deficit (~200 calories per day) because I only want to lose a couple pounds. So I burn 1750 calories per day and eat 1550 calories.

    It's very easy to accidentally eat 200 calories, which is why accuracy is very important with logging your food when you have a very small deficit.

    So wouldn't it make more sense to program mpf to say you want to lose more so it's not so hard to accidentally eat 200 more calories? Even if you don't want or need to lose more? This just confuses me with the deficits, etc. I guess what I'm asking is why have a small deficit if it's harder? Do you get less calories to eat this way or more? Just wondering for when I get to the maintenance phase.

    Because I like to eat more. :) Also, being on a larger deficit can be hard on your body, especially if you're active. I'm a runner, and my runs suck if I eat less than 1500 calories or so per day.

    But yes, I could potentially set my calories lower and not worry so much about the logging. However, I've tried that already. One of my weight plateaus was caused by inaccurate logging (not weighing my food and just estimating). Weighing your food may seem like overkill, but once you start, it'll really open your eyes.

    Thanks so much for explaining this. I do agree about weighing as I've noticed oatmeal as well as other food items not being accurate. I just never gave bread a thought to weigh. Would you weigh granola bars as well? It totally makes sense as far as eating more if you don't have much to lose. I weigh 145 and would like to get to 135-140. I'm 5'6. I started at 1200 calories/day. What would you recommend for me to eat now? Should I stick with 1200 or go up to the next level?
  • Losewtforlife4him
    Losewtforlife4him Posts: 423 Member
    joobey wrote: »
    joobey wrote: »
    I noticed the same thing with other breads. My multigrain bread lost ~10 grams, so I always weigh my bread before I toast it. As others have mentioned, when you're on a small deficit these things add up.

    So do you not eat all of it if it's more or do you just eat half of it? When you talk about a small deficit do you mean as far as how many calories you can eat like 1200 calories a day? I get confused with what this means..

    I still eat all of it, I just log it. For example, a serving size of my bread is 43 grams. I weigh it, and it weighs 49 grams. I log 49 grams on here (myfitnesspal). Sometimes grams aren't an option in the MFP entry for the bread (it might just be in slices), so then I'd log 1.14 slice (49 grams/43 grams).

    A deficit is calories burned throughout the day minus calories eaten. Calories burned should be higher than calories eaten if you want to lose weight. How quickly you lose weight is based on the deficit. The higher the deficit, the more quickly you lose. I have a very small deficit (~200 calories per day) because I only want to lose a couple pounds. So I burn 1750 calories per day and eat 1550 calories.

    It's very easy to accidentally eat 200 calories, which is why accuracy is very important with logging your food when you have a very small deficit.

    How do you figure how much you burn per day? I appreciate all of your help as well as others! Thanks!

    Experience. I've done many periods of maintenance. (Maintenance is when you eat to stay the same weight.) I logged my calories during maintenance and monitored my weight, so I knew how many calories I was eating while maintaining the same weight. It's also just an average (some days I eat more, some less).

    MFP will estimate your burn based on your gender, height, weight, and activity level. I started there and adjusted as needed.

    Where do I find the estimate for my burn?

  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    joobey wrote: »
    joobey wrote: »
    joobey wrote: »
    I noticed the same thing with other breads. My multigrain bread lost ~10 grams, so I always weigh my bread before I toast it. As others have mentioned, when you're on a small deficit these things add up.

    So do you not eat all of it if it's more or do you just eat half of it? When you talk about a small deficit do you mean as far as how many calories you can eat like 1200 calories a day? I get confused with what this means..

    I still eat all of it, I just log it. For example, a serving size of my bread is 43 grams. I weigh it, and it weighs 49 grams. I log 49 grams on here (myfitnesspal). Sometimes grams aren't an option in the MFP entry for the bread (it might just be in slices), so then I'd log 1.14 slice (49 grams/43 grams).

    A deficit is calories burned throughout the day minus calories eaten. Calories burned should be higher than calories eaten if you want to lose weight. How quickly you lose weight is based on the deficit. The higher the deficit, the more quickly you lose. I have a very small deficit (~200 calories per day) because I only want to lose a couple pounds. So I burn 1750 calories per day and eat 1550 calories.

    It's very easy to accidentally eat 200 calories, which is why accuracy is very important with logging your food when you have a very small deficit.

    So wouldn't it make more sense to program mpf to say you want to lose more so it's not so hard to accidentally eat 200 more calories? Even if you don't want or need to lose more? This just confuses me with the deficits, etc. I guess what I'm asking is why have a small deficit if it's harder? Do you get less calories to eat this way or more? Just wondering for when I get to the maintenance phase.

    Because I like to eat more. :) Also, being on a larger deficit can be hard on your body, especially if you're active. I'm a runner, and my runs suck if I eat less than 1500 calories or so per day.

    But yes, I could potentially set my calories lower and not worry so much about the logging. However, I've tried that already. One of my weight plateaus was caused by inaccurate logging (not weighing my food and just estimating). Weighing your food may seem like overkill, but once you start, it'll really open your eyes.

    Thanks so much for explaining this. I do agree about weighing as I've noticed oatmeal as well as other food items not being accurate. I just never gave bread a thought to weigh. Would you weigh granola bars as well? It totally makes sense as far as eating more if you don't have much to lose. I weigh 145 and would like to get to 135-140. I'm 5'6. I started at 1200 calories/day. What would you recommend for me to eat now? Should I stick with 1200 or go up to the next level?

    Most granola bars are 10-20 calories off in my experience.