Does anyone else have anti cravings?
derek1237654
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I noticed i have anti cravings for food and drugs now. I have never heard of this before? As in im disgusted by all drugs and many foods....its weird because i used to have cravings for both . Anyone else have this and its been going on for a long time.
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No.
Ice cream tastes as amazing as it always did.
And what kind of drugs are you 'anti-craving' on?3 -
Over enthusiasm - anti craving
This too shall pass2 -
Um im not very enthusiastic about it im just wondering what anti cravings are0
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snickerscharlie wrote: »No.
Ice cream tastes as amazing as it always did.
And what kind of drugs are you 'anti-craving' on?
Um ice cream doesnt taste as good anymore for me i checked. And i anti vrave all mood and mind altering drugs0 -
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nutmegoreo wrote: »
Not sure if anti-craving, aversion therapy, or something completely different
Lionel Richie's hair is a mood altering drug because it's oh so sexy ! No anti craving here !1 -
For me, things like ice cream taste even better now, simply because I don't have it as often as I used to and I now take the time to savour it properly.
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derek1237654 wrote: »Um im not very enthusiastic about it im just wondering what anti cravings are
Um, you said you were 'disgusted' by them. That's a pretty enthusiastic/strong response.4 -
derek1237654 wrote: »Um im not very enthusiastic about it im just wondering what anti cravings are
If you don't know what they are, how can you know you are having them?1 -
I'll tell ya what...my 600 gram ribeye steaks taste twice as good as the 1200 plus calorie ones I was eating regularly. I savor every wonderful bite now. Same goes for ice cream. I can't even tell you how delicious I find my 720 calorie pizza night.
I'm eating A LOT of fresh produce and "healthy" food as well. It's all so delicious.
If I may say, it seems like you've traded one serious issue with food for another, of course that's just an assumption.5 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »Um im not very enthusiastic about it im just wondering what anti cravings are
Um, you said you were 'disgusted' by them. That's a pretty enthusiastic/strong response.
Well it may be a strong response but not enthusiastic.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »Um im not very enthusiastic about it im just wondering what anti cravings are
If you don't know what they are, how can you know you are having them?
Well i guess they feel the same as cravings for drugs/food but they are cravings for the opposite of drugs/food which i guess is nothing? But i dont know if you can crave the absence of something? Which is why i asked. So maybe i mean i crave good healthy food. Maybe the anti cravings for drugs are just disgust with drugs/alcohol?0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »
Not sure if anti-craving, aversion therapy, or something completely different
I dunno i never did aversion therapy so i wouldnt know0 -
derek1237654 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Not sure if anti-craving, aversion therapy, or something completely different
I dunno i never did aversion therapy so i wouldnt know
I was leaning toward the something different. Sounds like you're dealing with a large pendulum swing from one extreme to another. It's not uncommon for people exchange one drug of choice for another. You have replaced the bong (or crack pipe, or whichever your choice was) for a kettlebell.
It could have just as easily been for dancing all night long:
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nutmegoreo wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Not sure if anti-craving, aversion therapy, or something completely different
I dunno i never did aversion therapy so i wouldnt know
I was leaning toward the something different. Sounds like you're dealing with a large pendulum swing from one extreme to another. It's not uncommon for people exchange one drug of choice for another. You have replaced the bong (or crack pipe, or whichever your choice was) for a kettlebell.
It could have just as easily been for dancing all night long:
Um except that a kettlebell is not a drug so that clearly makes no sense. I do know what u are trying to say i think but the way you worded it sounds like you are saying a kettlebell is a drug...unless u eat the kettlebell?
Yes people who use often change to other activities but it is hardly replacing drug use with kettlebell use since a kettlebell is not a drug and a kettlebell makes you better not worse. So that is a logically flawed argument.0 -
thorsmom01 wrote: »Over enthusiasm - anti craving
This too shall pass
Are u in the "program"?0 -
Hmm, about the only thing I noticed about my tastes changing was from switching from regular cola to diet (which I did long ago, probably late 90s, so well before my weight loss). Now regular cola just tastes too sweet to me, and I no longer notice the aftertastes of artificial sweeteners which at first I really hated.
Can't think of anything else, but then, I haven't much changed what I eat, only how much.0 -
derek1237654 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »Over enthusiasm - anti craving
This too shall pass
Are u in the "program"?
The only program I know about is progressive strength training. But don't worry you'll learn about that in time.1 -
derek1237654 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Not sure if anti-craving, aversion therapy, or something completely different
I dunno i never did aversion therapy so i wouldnt know
I was leaning toward the something different. Sounds like you're dealing with a large pendulum swing from one extreme to another. It's not uncommon for people exchange one drug of choice for another. You have replaced the bong (or crack pipe, or whichever your choice was) for a kettlebell.
It could have just as easily been for dancing all night long:
Um except that a kettlebell is not a drug so that clearly makes no sense. I do know what u are trying to say i think but the way you worded it sounds like you are saying a kettlebell is a drug...unless u eat the kettlebell?
Yes people who use often change to other activities but it is hardly replacing drug use with kettlebell use since a kettlebell is not a drug and a kettlebell makes you better not worse. So that is a logically flawed argument.
Sometimes a substitute is a substitute is a substitute. It is not a logically flawed argument as anything can become an obsession.3 -
Not for any long periods of time. I'll get anti cravings for certain foods for maybe a day or two. Like when I made a big crockpot full of sesame honey chicken, which I ate with plain steamed broccoli (which I LOVE) for like 8 days straight. By the 8th day, I still liked the chicken and rice, but I honestly felt I was going to puke if I ate one more broccoli floret. Lol!
... Still not sure what you mean by not craving drugs? I mean, good for you. That sounds like a good thing to have an "anti craving" for.1 -
kpeterson539 wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Not sure if anti-craving, aversion therapy, or something completely different
I dunno i never did aversion therapy so i wouldnt know
I was leaning toward the something different. Sounds like you're dealing with a large pendulum swing from one extreme to another. It's not uncommon for people exchange one drug of choice for another. You have replaced the bong (or crack pipe, or whichever your choice was) for a kettlebell.
It could have just as easily been for dancing all night long:
Um except that a kettlebell is not a drug so that clearly makes no sense. I do know what u are trying to say i think but the way you worded it sounds like you are saying a kettlebell is a drug...unless u eat the kettlebell?
Yes people who use often change to other activities but it is hardly replacing drug use with kettlebell use since a kettlebell is not a drug and a kettlebell makes you better not worse. So that is a logically flawed argument.
Sometimes a substitute is a substitute is a substitute. It is not a logically flawed argument as anything can become an obsession.
Yaah another logically flawed argument. Um addiction is not the same as an obsession. Because its not an addiction if its a positive thing. No one would argue that breathing air is an addiction because we all do it. And most people physically move and do some sort of excercise like um walking. So are they addicted too to moving and breathing?
Or do we say all athletes are obsessed? No we dont.
So to say that "x" activity is a substitute for drugs just makes no sense whatsoever. Its about choosing to do or not do drugs or something else.
So to u someone who stops using drugs just substituted drugs for some other activity that is either an obsessionn or addiction?
You are equating something bad with something good as if the motivation is the same behind behind doing something good and bad. Hence the logical flaw0 -
thorsmom01 wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »Over enthusiasm - anti craving
This too shall pass
Are u in the "program"?
The only program I know about is progressive strength training. But don't worry you'll learn about that in time.
What do strength and progressive mean? Please use that in a sentence.0 -
thorsmom01 wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »Over enthusiasm - anti craving
This too shall pass
Are u in the "program"?
The only program I know about is progressive strength training. But don't worry you'll learn about that in time.
Progressive overload strength training is my program of choice too 0 -
Basically your anti cravings are a result of you knowing that those things are bad for you. Food is not bad for you per say only the overindulgence of food. I agree with one of the earlier posts that you are doing an extreme pendulum swing from one extreme to the other. Being disgusted by harmful mood and mind altering drugs is definitely a good thing. But don't harm yourself by not eating enough. Try to find some healthy foods that don't disgust you and eat plenty of those.1
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derek1237654 wrote: »kpeterson539 wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Not sure if anti-craving, aversion therapy, or something completely different
I dunno i never did aversion therapy so i wouldnt know
I was leaning toward the something different. Sounds like you're dealing with a large pendulum swing from one extreme to another. It's not uncommon for people exchange one drug of choice for another. You have replaced the bong (or crack pipe, or whichever your choice was) for a kettlebell.
It could have just as easily been for dancing all night long:
Um except that a kettlebell is not a drug so that clearly makes no sense. I do know what u are trying to say i think but the way you worded it sounds like you are saying a kettlebell is a drug...unless u eat the kettlebell?
Yes people who use often change to other activities but it is hardly replacing drug use with kettlebell use since a kettlebell is not a drug and a kettlebell makes you better not worse. So that is a logically flawed argument.
Sometimes a substitute is a substitute is a substitute. It is not a logically flawed argument as anything can become an obsession.
Yaah another logically flawed argument. Um addiction is not the same as an obsession. Because its not an addiction if its a positive thing. No one would argue that breathing air is an addiction because we all do it. And most people physically move and do some sort of excercise like um walking. So are they addicted too to moving and breathing?
Or do we say all athletes are obsessed? No we dont.
So to say that "x" activity is a substitute for drugs just makes no sense whatsoever. Its about choosing to do or not do drugs or something else.
So to u someone who stops using drugs just substituted drugs for some other activity that is either an obsessionn or addiction?
You are equating something bad with something good as if the motivation is the same behind behind doing something good and bad. Hence the logical flaw
Actually it's a very common phenomenon, where someone gives up alcohol and starts binge eating instead, or give up heroin and starts smoking. It's not uncommon for someone to get a gastric bypass surgery and begin drinking alcohol instead. Exercise can also become problematic when one takes it to extremes. It's a matter of substituting one obsession, vice, or coping mechanism for something else. It is the degree to which it affects the individual's life. So no, there is an equivalency there, even if you don't see it.derek1237654 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »Over enthusiasm - anti craving
This too shall pass
Are u in the "program"?
The only program I know about is progressive strength training. But don't worry you'll learn about that in time.
What do strength and progressive mean? Please use that in a sentence.
She actually did use it in a sentence in the post you quoted.3 -
I knew you couldn't have a post without dropping the word kettlebell at least once4
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nutmegoreo wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »kpeterson539 wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »
Not sure if anti-craving, aversion therapy, or something completely different
I dunno i never did aversion therapy so i wouldnt know
I was leaning toward the something different. Sounds like you're dealing with a large pendulum swing from one extreme to another. It's not uncommon for people exchange one drug of choice for another. You have replaced the bong (or crack pipe, or whichever your choice was) for a kettlebell.
It could have just as easily been for dancing all night long:
Um except that a kettlebell is not a drug so that clearly makes no sense. I do know what u are trying to say i think but the way you worded it sounds like you are saying a kettlebell is a drug...unless u eat the kettlebell?
Yes people who use often change to other activities but it is hardly replacing drug use with kettlebell use since a kettlebell is not a drug and a kettlebell makes you better not worse. So that is a logically flawed argument.
Sometimes a substitute is a substitute is a substitute. It is not a logically flawed argument as anything can become an obsession.
Yaah another logically flawed argument. Um addiction is not the same as an obsession. Because its not an addiction if its a positive thing. No one would argue that breathing air is an addiction because we all do it. And most people physically move and do some sort of excercise like um walking. So are they addicted too to moving and breathing?
Or do we say all athletes are obsessed? No we dont.
So to say that "x" activity is a substitute for drugs just makes no sense whatsoever. Its about choosing to do or not do drugs or something else.
So to u someone who stops using drugs just substituted drugs for some other activity that is either an obsessionn or addiction?
You are equating something bad with something good as if the motivation is the same behind behind doing something good and bad. Hence the logical flaw
Actually it's a very common phenomenon, where someone gives up alcohol and starts binge eating instead, or give up heroin and starts smoking. It's not uncommon for someone to get a gastric bypass surgery and begin drinking alcohol instead. Exercise can also become problematic when one takes it to extremes. It's a matter of substituting one obsession, vice, or coping mechanism for something else. It is the degree to which it affects the individual's life. So no, there is an equivalency there, even if you don't see it.derek1237654 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »derek1237654 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »Over enthusiasm - anti craving
This too shall pass
Are u in the "program"?
The only program I know about is progressive strength training. But don't worry you'll learn about that in time.
What do strength and progressive mean? Please use that in a sentence.
She actually did use it in a sentence in the post you quoted.
Again logically flawed. All of those things you said people do as substitutions are bad for you whereas excercise is good for you unless you excercise 8 hours a day and dont work and ignore your family but seriously who does that? So no it is very uncommon to "substitute" drug addiction with excercise because they are too unrelated. People who were drug addicted take up excercise as part of a healthy lifestyle but the vast majority are not doing that to the point of serious harm to themselves or others whereas giving up drugs to smoke is serious harm. So you are equating something very rare (extreme debilitating excercise) with something very common ie. Smoking. I never advocated excercising 6 or 8 hours a day btw.0 -
stephanieluvspb wrote: »I knew you couldn't have a post without dropping the word kettlebell at least once
Lol0 -
Why did you post here if all you're going to do is argue with everyone who is trying to help you? And just for the record... These people's arguments are not flawed and they make perfect sense. It's not their fault you don't seem to understand.6
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I am amazed at how many of us are logically flawed.
Also, is this anti-craving you've been having......has this been happening just today? I'm asking because by looking at your food diary it doesn't seem to be the case.4
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