Fitness DNA
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Has anyone done a fitness DNA? Is it worth the money??
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What is it?0
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You send a swab of you cheek in and they basically tell you what and how you should be eating and working out.0
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How much is it? MFP is free and a calorie deficit is all that is needed. Spend your money on a food scale.0
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Sounds like a fancy way to take your money. Calorie deficit & find movement you enjoy.0
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Sounds like a scam.0
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Save your money.
I'd be HIGHLY, HIGHLY suspect of this.
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Yes, I've had it done. I avoided it for a long time as the price seemed high but then came across a half price offer for it. I got both the fitness and diet assessment.
It was fairly interesting but confirmed what I had learned through trial and error - low carb sensitivity, disposition to endurance and a few other things.
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My opinion, your better off finding a good trainer that is well versed in nutrition.2
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Sounds a lot like the "Eat for your blood type" diet and other such scams. In other words, it's another worthless way to fleece people out of their money.1
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Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.5 -
DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.
And if you think that genetics determines the athlete or what sport they should focus on, I highly recommend giving this a read:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16171221-the-sports-gene1 -
DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.
If the research is a decade away from this becoming practical then this is a waste of money.4 -
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I just ran across it and the hubby was thinking about it..but it just seems like a lot of money for them to just send me a report. If it was free maybe. But I dont know.0
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DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.
And if you think that genetics determines the athlete or what sport they should focus on, I highly recommend giving this a read:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16171221-the-sports-gene
What does that have to do about the conversation?1 -
DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.
And if you think that genetics determines the athlete or what sport they should focus on, I highly recommend giving this a read:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16171221-the-sports-gene
What does that have to do about the conversation?
Oh, were top athletes just getting genetic testing for funsies?0 -
DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.
If the research is a decade away from this becoming practical then this is a waste of money.
Well, the information is there, the tricky part is interpreting it for our benefit. Our DNA doesn't change, so it's just a matter of time before the average person can use it.
I personal wouldn't do it for the current price, but it's definitely not snake oil.1 -
DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.
If the research is a decade away from this becoming practical then this is a waste of money.
Well, the information is there, the tricky part is interpreting it for our benefit. Our DNA doesn't change, so it's just a matter of time before the average person can use it.
I personal wouldn't do it for the current price, but it's definitely not snake oil.
They aren't sequencing you're entire genome. They're looking at specific DNA markers. And then trying to extrapolate data into who knows what right now since there aren't genes that tell you to do 5 reps instead of 12, and not those exercises.
And what if the particular SNPs they're currently running aren't the right ones? There's a discount if you've used 23andme, so I'm assuming they're using their standard panel and just reinterpreting the data. Which means the SNPs weren't even chosen because they related to sports/fitness genes. Which means that there is a SUPER high chance that it's useless, even 15 years from now.2 -
DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.
If the research is a decade away from this becoming practical then this is a waste of money.
Well, the information is there, the tricky part is interpreting it for our benefit. Our DNA doesn't change, so it's just a matter of time before the average person can use it.
I personal wouldn't do it for the current price, but it's definitely not snake oil.
Depends on how the info is delivered.
Many of the companies that I've seen who are selling this procedure, are marketing it as though they are providing critical information that will allow someone to lose fat or maximize performance.
To me that reeks of snake oil regardless of what small amount of research there is on the concept.
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I worked for one of those companies.
Don't believe it. It's more woo.2 -
DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.
If the research is a decade away from this becoming practical then this is a waste of money.
Well, the information is there, the tricky part is interpreting it for our benefit. Our DNA doesn't change, so it's just a matter of time before the average person can use it.
I personal wouldn't do it for the current price, but it's definitely not snake oil.
Depends on how the info is delivered.
Many of the companies that I've seen who are selling this procedure, are marketing it as though they are providing critical information that will allow someone to lose fat or maximize performance.
To me that reeks of snake oil regardless of what small amount of research there is on the concept.
That is a valid point - I was trying to talk more on the science of the topic as I know nothing about that particular company and what they are pitching.
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DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.
If the research is a decade away from this becoming practical then this is a waste of money.
Well, the information is there, the tricky part is interpreting it for our benefit. Our DNA doesn't change, so it's just a matter of time before the average person can use it.
I personal wouldn't do it for the current price, but it's definitely not snake oil.
They aren't sequencing you're entire genome. They're looking at specific DNA markers. And then trying to extrapolate data into who knows what right now since there aren't genes that tell you to do 5 reps instead of 12, and not those exercises.
And what if the particular SNPs they're currently running aren't the right ones? There's a discount if you've used 23andme, so I'm assuming they're using their standard panel and just reinterpreting the data. Which means the SNPs weren't even chosen because they related to sports/fitness genes. Which means that there is a SUPER high chance that it's useless, even 15 years from now.
You're right, there isn't much science on implementing it at this time.
For most people, the information won't tell them anything that junior high phy. ed. class didn't teach them. "Oh, I'm good at running distance" or "I'm a lot faster than my classmates."0 -
DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »DreesPerformanceTraining wrote: »Not everything is a scam people. It's wise to be hesitant about stuff like this, but there is a lot of neat stuff coming out on the topic. We are probably 5-15 years out for any practical use for the average adult, but they are starting to play around with DNA testing with high level athletes.
If you have the extra money for it I don't think it would be a complete waste of money. Chances are you won't find anything groundbreaking - most likely it will tell you a lot about your body that you already know.
If the research is a decade away from this becoming practical then this is a waste of money.
Well, the information is there, the tricky part is interpreting it for our benefit. Our DNA doesn't change, so it's just a matter of time before the average person can use it.
I personal wouldn't do it for the current price, but it's definitely not snake oil.
They aren't sequencing you're entire genome. They're looking at specific DNA markers. And then trying to extrapolate data into who knows what right now since there aren't genes that tell you to do 5 reps instead of 12, and not those exercises.
And what if the particular SNPs they're currently running aren't the right ones? There's a discount if you've used 23andme, so I'm assuming they're using their standard panel and just reinterpreting the data. Which means the SNPs weren't even chosen because they related to sports/fitness genes. Which means that there is a SUPER high chance that it's useless, even 15 years from now.
You're right, there isn't much science on implementing it at this time.
For most people, the information won't tell them anything that junior high phy. ed. class didn't teach them. "Oh, I'm good at running distance" or "I'm a lot faster than my classmates."
As a separate aside, the Sports Gene was a great book that compiled a lot of great interviews.
This whole conversation makes me think of a chapter that discusses a kid that was goofing around and blew everyone out of the water at a local high jump competition. His form was horrible, he had no training, and he could still jump higher than any other competitor. He made it to state, but he never advanced because he refused to train. He much preferred to play basketball.
And Spud Webb. Definitely doesn't have the "genetics of a basketball player", but that doesn't mean anything about whether he was a good player or not.
And what is the genetics of a basketball player? It's obviously not height alone. What about how many fast twitch fibers in your muscle (which is actually easier to see with a muscle biopsy, but most people don't want to go through that)? Other factors that influence speed?
All of this is discussed in the book; it's truly fascinating*.
*As a geneticist I may be slightly biased, although the book is definitely written for the common person.0 -
I just ran across it and the hubby was thinking about it..but it just seems like a lot of money for them to just send me a report. If it was free maybe. But I dont know.
I have no opinion on what type of results you'll get as I've never heard of this before but DNA testing isn't free or cheap.0 -
How much does it cost?0
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The ones I found online just now, were in the $250 range, they send you a diet and fitness plan based on the test results. I'll be honest, I'm an old fogey, but I'm still a little skeptical of sending off a saliva sample for a DNA test to a private company. I probably watch too much sci fi
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The only genetic dietary marker I recall was some bit that was found to correlate to losing more weight eating more carbs/less fat, or more fat/less carbs.
Or at least I think that was it. It was mentioned in passing by Lyle McDonald in an article, and no, I don't remember which one. Basically some study that found if you had A type then one diet was more effective and if you had B type then the other diet was the way to go.0 -
They've started offering it here. Firstly I can't afford it. Secondly I'd be very annoyed if my results told me to avoid chocolate lol. Thirdly I think that unless you're an elite athlete, basic nutrition and thermodynamics should be sufficient for most of us. Even as a nationally competitive swimmer, I wouldn't expect it to provide me any more useful info than I could work out intuitively or via trial and error myself.0
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I used https://fitnessgenes.com/, when they had a discount, and could not be more satisfied. At the time I had been doing 5x5s, which I learned were not the ideal format for me, due to my prevalence of slow-twitch, vs fast-twitch muscle fiber. I had a feeling that high-weights, low-reps, LONG rests wasn't for me, but it was nice to have it confirmed.
I'm now back to high-volume training, which I've always enjoyed more and gotten better results from.
The biggest benefit is not having to mess around for months at a time doing your own trial and error research on what works for you. Also, becoming a Premium MFP Member , I can plug my exact macros by gram into MFP!
Plus for the narcissist's amongst us, it's pretty dope to read all about yourself
There are less-expensive packages, but the "Muscle-Building System" I purchased is normally $379 CAD (shipping included) I got mine for $289. Yes it's a good chunk of coin, but I figured it was a worthy investment in my health and wellness!1
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