Munching on a packet of buscuits
laurenduffy1988
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I am really trying to focus on recovery from binge eating disorser rather than dieting and fast weight loss - I haven't binged in 4 days made a few choices maybe would chnage but am taking it slow - today I am on time of the month not feeling great and snacking on biscuits as was craving like mad I am trying to see the bigger picture I am not going to eat like this every day so not depriving, am so bored aswell moving city in 2 weeks will be with loads of frienda and busy New job hoping the busy life again will help not to sit around and binge as well but feeling good
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laurenduffy1988 wrote: »I am really trying to focus on recovery from binge eating disorser rather than dieting and fast weight loss - I haven't binged in 4 days made a few choices maybe would chnage but am taking it slow - today I am on time of the month not feeling great and snacking on biscuits as was craving like mad I am trying to see the bigger picture I am not going to eat like this every day so not depriving, am so bored aswell moving city in 2 weeks will be with loads of frienda and busy New job hoping the busy life again will help not to sit around and binge as well but feeling good
Hey I understand how frustrating binge eating can be. I was in your shoes myself for many many years, I am going to share some starter tips with you that I learned that helped me to dig myself out. Of course please ask me any questions that you may have. I am here to help you in any way possible:) Support is the best thing when trying to overcome this!
First, admit there was a problem. For three going on four years, I blamed externals, my drive, and my dreams for my actions. Ignoring people in my life hinting at me that I may have a problem, including family, close friends, and girlfriend. I lied to myself, rationalizing it with the mask of a cheat meal. As the punishment for binging increased so did the amount of times I binged. At first once a week, then every couple days, every other, until it consumed my thoughts. At times I would drive to Walmart just to eat it all before coming home. Chances are if you are reading this it is because you are looking for help. Good for you, you are lightyears ahead of where I was!
Second, I learned to love myself for me, as a matter of fact I am still learning how to do this. Today, the emulated physique is seen as happiness. It is published on social media, magazines, and posters as the symbol of happiness. I believed it, I chased it and chased it. I had it for some time and I was still just as miserable. How you look will not make you happy! Now don’t twist those words as an excuse to just let ourselves become overweight. Chances are you will break step 1 which is lying and rationalizing it. We have to learn to accept our imperfections. We all have them and everyone tries to hide them. Here are my flaws (some I can fix, others are what they are):
Relationships: I am aweful. I wrecked a 15 year friendship with a highschool sweetheart, I was selfish and an *kitten*. I can also be abrasive and brutal with little to no compassion. However ever since I shared this personal story, I have gotten better. Although I am by no means finished working on this.
Skin Damage: I never wore sunscreen as a kid. Now I have moles, freckles, and scars. Some I wish weren’t there. Some girls won’t talk to me because of them. I am not “sexy” enough. They aren’t “interested”.
Don’t let your imperfections stop you from loving yourself. You are the only you this world will ever see, embrace yourself. Perhaps the worst thing about this cycle was I hated myself, I hated my life, I did not want to look in the mirror, I thought I was a failure that I would never make it, I contemplated suicide. When I would binge, I would punish myself. Don’t do that we are human, life is meant to be enjoyed. Life is much too short to never treat yourself to what you love to eat whatever that maybe for you. Look yourself in the mirror directly into your eyes saying “I LOVE myself” at least 10 times a day, if not more. P.S. try not to smile when you say this (harder than you think).
Thirdly, there is no such thing as good food, bad food. Placing labels on food, leads us to ban them from our intake. We say, “No, No, No, No, No…” We push for the perfect diet, once we eat this food that does not fall into this neat diet box; we throw our hands up, saying we failed so now is the time to eat everything we can. This leads to punishment. Which leads to more restrictions. This is the vicious cycle we as binge eaters face. I used to believe it myself, that there was clean food and bad food. It simply is this manifested idea. If you ask a vegan, he/she will say animal based foods are not clean. Someone who is a vegetarian will disagree, and say it is just animal products that are not clean. Then a paleo guy runs in screaming about how meat is clean, but grains aren’t. So someone has to be right? They are all wrong. Instead, adopt my grandmother’s wise old adage of “everything in moderation.”
Fourth, going along the lines of moderation. You can eat whatever you want just not all at once. I believe I heard Layne Norton say this, I believe this, like the 11th commandment, in fact it should be an amendment to the constitution. When I first began to escape cycle, I would eat one “treat” at every meal. Nothing crazy, but it will allow you still get your “fix” but you won’t binge on it. Any action in the right direction gave me more motivation and encouragement to keep improving. The small wins kept snowballing into large victories later that slammed the door on binging. Disclaimer, it is wiser to eat this food item from a plate not from the container. Don’t test your will to fight binging if you do not have too. As the old saying goes, “work smarter, not harder.”
Fifth, no more crazy spreadsheets and tracking of nutrients line item by line item like an accountant. I did not worry about counting calories and the works. I would instead eat (3) meals, breakfast, lunch and supper possibly a snack if I was hungry. I would eat slowly, and as I began to feel fuller I would stop eating. You may be like me and scared that you’ll get fat. Well what is our other choice? We can keep binge eating which is not working, because you wouldn’t be reading this. Or we can reach out and try something new. I need to be conscious of my eating, instead of speed eating (still struggle at times).
Sixth, 180, 190, 160, 225, 200…what number was it going to be today I thought I as I closed my eyes scared to look down at the scale after a night of binging (these were all weights I reached during this cycle). You do not need a scale to help you. It’s about small wins, small wins, they add up trust me; I have been there too. Most people overestimate the damage of a binge. You need to eat in excess of 3500 calories over your normal intake to gain a pound of fat. It is not as bad as we create in our minds. Additionally, when we stand on the scale after a binge our body is bloated, full of food, sodium, and other goodies. This only compounds the guilt feeling.
It is your lucky day! I said six, but here is a seventh tip. So, what about eating at restaurants and parties? Parties were my kryptonite, the amount of food that I saw and I thought I had to eat three people’s worth of everything. What helped me to win at parties was I made this a game in my head (who cares no one else knows..plus now you know I did it). I am very competitive; I hate losing even if it’s go fish with a girlfriend (I will be a terrible father I will never let my kids win). Since eating slower and not getting seconds was a struggle at first. The game I created was to be the last one done eating, and the last one to get seconds. This helped me in many ways, first to help me eat slower I talked with people, this helped to repair the relationships I had damaged in the past, plus I was not over eating (win/win). Which is why I was last to get seconds, so often I would eat so quick that my stomach didn’t even know it was fed until I was already 4-5 plates of heaping food deep.
Make that eight, workout for fun! For so long in this process I trained for results no I do not mean goals; I simply worked out to look good that’s it! It was the complete wrong direction, it made training no fun, I dreaded every gym session, and was having a miserable time. It doesn’t matter if you are into bodybuilding, figure, physique, cross fit, powerlifting, strongman, marathons, etc. just train for fun, train to get better and challenge yourself. For me this was powerlifting.
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Cookies/biscuits are totally fine! But take 2 out of the packet, put the packet away, and log those two.. then enjoy every bite.3
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laurenduffy1988 wrote: »I am really trying to focus on recovery from binge eating disorser rather than dieting and fast weight loss - I haven't binged in 4 days made a few choices maybe would chnage but am taking it slow - today I am on time of the month not feeling great and snacking on biscuits as was craving like mad I am trying to see the bigger picture I am not going to eat like this every day so not depriving, am so bored aswell moving city in 2 weeks will be with loads of frienda and busy New job hoping the busy life again will help not to sit around and binge as well but feeling good
Congrats on your four days of no binge eating!
Are you in counseling to help you deal with your binge eating? Or group therapy? Both of these can be extremely useful.1 -
jahillegas_51 wrote: »
Oh man, these posts gave me a chuckle.
2 cookies. Enjoy every bite. Life is too short. Hehe
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I'm exactly the same, whole packets of biscuits made me overweight and I've lost lots of weight but cutting out all the crap but now I hate food and still have days where I will eat packets of biscuits and then feel guilty and over compensate. Not sure I can help really just saying I understand!0
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But a diet of supplements or shakes could meet your macros, how about long term health?!
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I'm exactly the same, whole packets of biscuits made me overweight and I've lost lots of weight but cutting out all the crap but now I hate food and still have days where I will eat packets of biscuits and then feel guilty and over compensate. Not sure I can help really just saying I understand!
I too had this pattern of overeating hyperpalatable low nutrient foods, gain weight, compensate by trying to not eat at all (I ate every day though), desperately wanted to eat better, but believed healthy food had to be boring, bland and low fat. I started to see food as the enemy, hate food, and eat more sweets and salty snacks instead, because what was the point in eating good food, which I assumed was unhealthy.
All this changed when I found MFP. (I'm amazed that not everybody pick it up immediately
) I challenged myself to eat more fat and food I liked, and I started to really like food, and started to cook more, and I started to like my own food and to cook. Sweets and salty snack became less and less important. Food became more and more tasty. My eating habits have changed in small imcrements, but my attitude towards food and eating has changed dramatically. 0 -
Kommodeveran I hope to be there one day, I've been on mfp 4 months though so think something else needs to change! I'm going to try pre logging proper meals...0
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Kommodeveran I hope to be there one day, I've been on mfp 4 months though so think something else needs to change! I'm going to try pre logging proper meals...
Do that. Prelogging is one of those really helpful strategies. It's a kind of "precommitment" and links to mindful eating. Mindless eating is when we suddenly notice that the biscuit bag is empty. It didn't even provide any enjoyment.
Please read this link, it's just a small page: http://ellynsatterinstitute.org/hte/whatisnormaleating.php2 -
Thank you the site looks good I will have a read 1
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But a diet of supplements or shakes could meet your macros, how about long term health?!
Because clearly 3 cookies will be detrimental for your health... nope...0 -
Three - no, "one, two, three... Whatever" - maybe
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You're missing the point.
No matter what amount you have, weigh it, don't just take out of package, put away, and eat them. Make sure that it fits into your macros.1 -
Try a different type of biscuit. We had this discussion in the office just yesterday - we can easily eat most of a packet of chocolate biscuits (tim tams etc) in one go but will be just as satisfied at just 1 or 2 of a lower calorie gingernut0
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If cookies are biscuits, what do y'all call biscuits? Like biscuits and gravy etc.0
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Scones?0
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You're missing the point.
No matter what amount you have, weigh it, don't just take out of package, put away, and eat them. Make sure that it fits into your macros.
I get the point but it's kind of along the lines of 'just eat less' not all that helpful sorry.
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85Cardinals wrote: »If cookies are biscuits, what do y'all call biscuits? Like biscuits and gravy etc.
The only biscuits we have here are what you guys call cookies.
The biscuits you're talking about is an American thing, not really any such thing here in Australia.Scones?
Scones are what you have with jam and cream, not gravy.
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Well yes eat one or two and track them. And you'll be fine... However if you are like me then that is pretty much impossible. The binge eating monster inside me will have eaten have the packet in the blink of an eye. I freaking love biscuits, I love them that much, I can no longer buy them, if they are in the house I will demolish them.
So until you think you can manage to have one or two out of a pack, I would avoid completely. If they are not in the house, I can't eat them! Yes I know I have no biscuit willpower, I am strange...0 -
Binge eating requires a diagnosis and it is a very serious disorder. I have an eating disorder's expert in my family she works specifically with college aged women. It is a very complex disorder and it must be diagnosed. If you feel that you have an actual binge eating disorder I encourage you to seek a professional who is trained in this area. Often this disorder stems from a traumatic experience in your past as far back as early childhood. And women who have been sexually abused often struggle with this disorder. Over eating is one thing. An actual binge eating disorder is a very serious psychological event that needs to diagnosed and therapy with a qualified professional is warranted.
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You're missing the point.
No matter what amount you have, weigh it, don't just take out of package, put away, and eat them. Make sure that it fits into your macros.
I get the point but it's kind of along the lines of 'just eat less' not all that helpful sorry.
There is nothing to be sorry about. This was a response to someone else in the conversation.
However.....really? Promoting eating less of what you love is not helpful? That's what weight management is all about.
When you are in control of your portions, then you know how much you are eating and are able to eat snacks that fit into your calories. 0 -
Nope, bikkies need to be eaten in twos. That's a rule. Well in my books anyways.
Same for clementines, always eat two.2 -
Derpy_Hooves wrote: »
Nope, bikkies need to be eaten in twos. That's a rule. Well in my books anyways.
Same for clementines, always eat two.
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I couldn't so the binge eating recovery along with all my other mental disorders, trying to lose weifht, life stress, and physical illnesses. I take a medication called vyvanse. Only fda approved to treat disorder. Works perfect. I can say no I don't want more. So amazing.
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