What symptoms do you have if you under eat your calories for the day?
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OneTwentyThree wrote: »FitPhillygirl wrote: »If you truly didn't eat enough, more than likely you would experience symptoms of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar): diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/hypoglycemia-low-blood.html
Yes i do have issues with hypoglycemia which is why I am asking this question. Trying to see whats normal among others
Well that happens to me too. And it has nothing to do with whether you eat enough or not. Yesterday I had a HUGE lunch and was already over my calories and I felt like crap at dinner time and had to eat, even though I wasn't hungry at all.
This is my dilemma. Hard to figure out if the issue is that I need to up my calories or its just a general hypo problem.0 -
OneTwentyThree wrote: »OneTwentyThree wrote: »FitPhillygirl wrote: »If you truly didn't eat enough, more than likely you would experience symptoms of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar): diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/hypoglycemia-low-blood.html
Yes i do have issues with hypoglycemia which is why I am asking this question. Trying to see whats normal among others
Well that happens to me too. And it has nothing to do with whether you eat enough or not. Yesterday I had a HUGE lunch and was already over my calories and I felt like crap at dinner time and had to eat, even though I wasn't hungry at all.
This is my dilemma. Hard to figure out if the issue is that I need to up my calories or its just a general hypo problem.
Well how much are you eating? What are your stats? How accurate are you with your food logging? How active are you?0 -
OneTwentyThree wrote: »FitPhillygirl wrote: »When "I" don't eat enough, "I" experience symptoms of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar): diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/hypoglycemia-low-blood.html
How many calories would you be eating and burning on the days you feel hypoglycemia? Have you checked you sugar how low does it actually go ?
I try to eat at least 2,000 calories a day. Depends on how active I am during the day and whether or not I get to eat during my shift. I suffered from HG as a kid and got better as I got older. However, after having a Total Abdominal Hysterectomy almost 2 months ago, HG has come back again to the point where I have to eat carbs and protein within a half hour of exercising or I get lightheaded, shaky, and my skin gets clammy. This forces me to stop and eat in order to continue. I'm guessing it's due to the decrease in hormones. Had my BS checked a few weeks after my surgery and it was 70 fasting which is good.1 -
OneTwentyThree wrote: »OneTwentyThree wrote: »FitPhillygirl wrote: »If you truly didn't eat enough, more than likely you would experience symptoms of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar): diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/hypoglycemia-low-blood.html
Yes i do have issues with hypoglycemia which is why I am asking this question. Trying to see whats normal among others
Well that happens to me too. And it has nothing to do with whether you eat enough or not. Yesterday I had a HUGE lunch and was already over my calories and I felt like crap at dinner time and had to eat, even though I wasn't hungry at all.
This is my dilemma. Hard to figure out if the issue is that I need to up my calories or its just a general hypo problem.
Well how much are you eating? What are your stats? How accurate are you with your food logging? How active are you?
I am accurate with food logging, I use a scale. 1500 on non exercise days, if im just on a treadmill or elliptical I leave it at 1500, if I do an intense class like boxing I do 1800 but today I am over eating for breakfast because of yesterdays class.
Im 5'6, 150 lbs0 -
OneTwentyThree wrote: »OneTwentyThree wrote: »OneTwentyThree wrote: »FitPhillygirl wrote: »If you truly didn't eat enough, more than likely you would experience symptoms of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar): diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/hypoglycemia-low-blood.html
Yes i do have issues with hypoglycemia which is why I am asking this question. Trying to see whats normal among others
Well that happens to me too. And it has nothing to do with whether you eat enough or not. Yesterday I had a HUGE lunch and was already over my calories and I felt like crap at dinner time and had to eat, even though I wasn't hungry at all.
This is my dilemma. Hard to figure out if the issue is that I need to up my calories or its just a general hypo problem.
Well how much are you eating? What are your stats? How accurate are you with your food logging? How active are you?
I am accurate with food logging, I use a scale. 1500 on non exercise days, if im just on a treadmill or elliptical I leave it at 1500, if I do an intense class like boxing I do 1800 but today I am over eating for breakfast because of yesterdays class.
Im 5'6, 150 lbs
Well it sounds like you're eating enough then.
If you have hypoglycemia, avoid high glycemic load foods (refined carbs, mostly), and try to eat small meals more frequently.0 -
FitPhillygirl wrote: »OneTwentyThree wrote: »FitPhillygirl wrote: »When "I" don't eat enough, "I" experience symptoms of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar): diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/hypoglycemia-low-blood.html
How many calories would you be eating and burning on the days you feel hypoglycemia? Have you checked you sugar how low does it actually go ?
Depends on how active I am during the day and whether or not I get to eat during my shift. I suffered from HG as a kid and got better as I got older. However, after having a Total Abdominal Hysterectomy almost 2 months ago, HG has come back again to the point where I have to eat carbs and protein within a half hour of exercising or I get lightheaded, shaky, and my skin gets clammy. This forces me to stop and eat in order to continue. I'm guessing it's due to the decrease in hormones.
HG= hypoglycemia? Wow me too ! Had it diagnosed as a child and having issues with it now again. So rare to hear of another having hypo as a child and then also continuing with issues.
I have a fruit within 15-30 mins of my exercise as well !
Sorry about the hysterectomy, im going to message you a little later, have some questions about the hypo.
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OneTwentyThree wrote: »OneTwentyThree wrote: »FitPhillygirl wrote: »If you truly didn't eat enough, more than likely you would experience symptoms of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar): diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/hypoglycemia-low-blood.html
Yes i do have issues with hypoglycemia which is why I am asking this question. Trying to see whats normal among others
If you deal with hypoglycemia (I do as well) then what's normal for others shouldn't matter to you. Meal timing makes all the difference in the world to keep blood glucose levels even - do you regularly check your blood glucose? When you're feeling that way, what are your readings?
You should still eat in a caloric deficit to lose weight, just space out smaller meals throughout the day paying close attention to blood glucose spikes & drops.
Hope you dont mind me asking, are you non diabetic hypo, or does it happen because of diabetes?
Meal timing is a good suggestion but I generally feel fine during day, it seems to be am issue at night and in the morning.
This is something I am investigating with a dr but was interested to see how others feel.
Don't mind at all - non diabetic, I didn't start having issues until well after I lost my weight.
My glucose tends to drop (when it does) in the afternoon/evenings so I've gotten used to eating app 250-300 cals every 2-3 hours. This seems to really have helped tremendously. I also make sure I schedule one of my meals right before bed as this has made the biggest difference in my morning glucose readings.
I've also realized that my drops are more frequent on my heavier-exercise days so I make sure I eat not too long before or after exercise.
It really is trial & error and checking levels frequently will make you feel like a pincushion, lol, but finding your own patterns and meal planning will make a big difference in how you feel. Good luck!!
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OneTwentyThree wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »I actually did a little experiment a while ago after seeing so many women who aren't short and sedentary say they do just fine on 1200 calories only eating a little of their exercise back. I did it for a week. After a couple of days I was getting hangry and my workouts were suffering. By the end of the week my workouts were total torture and I was eyeing up the cats as looking pretty tasty. Not worth a slightly faster loss for me at all!
I know what you mean I am always surprised by those people and how they do it but I always assume they arent actually counting their calories accurately with a food scale.
What are your stats like and how many calories do you eat and burn?
I'm on 1200 calories a day and count every single calorie, weighing every single thing I eat. It can depend on what you eat. If you eat high calorie foods that don't fill you, then it will be hard to eat 1200 cals a day, but if you eat low calorie foods it can be very easy.0 -
OneTwentyThree wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »I actually did a little experiment a while ago after seeing so many women who aren't short and sedentary say they do just fine on 1200 calories only eating a little of their exercise back. I did it for a week. After a couple of days I was getting hangry and my workouts were suffering. By the end of the week my workouts were total torture and I was eyeing up the cats as looking pretty tasty. Not worth a slightly faster loss for me at all!
I know what you mean I am always surprised by those people and how they do it but I always assume they arent actually counting their calories accurately with a food scale.
What are your stats like and how many calories do you eat and burn?
I'm on 1200 calories a day and count every single calorie, weighing every single thing I eat. It can depend on what you eat. If you eat high calorie foods that don't fill you, then it will be hard to eat 1200 cals a day, but if you eat low calorie foods it can be very easy.
Eh, even eating filling, low calorie foods, I still can't do 1200 a day (although yeah, if I eat exercise calories back like you're supposed to, it's doable).0 -
malibu wrote:What are your stats and how much are you eating a day?
I'm a bit taller & heavier than you, and my goal is 1400 / day.OneTwentyThree wrote:5'6 150, I eat 1500 on days i dont exercise. Yesterday I did kickboxing and ate 1800.
I feel like 1800 was enough and didnt actually feel hungry, but did feel crappy.
And the bad feeling wasnt from muscle tiredness.
Exercise is for health, and a bonus for weight loss, but doesn't affect how much I eat.
Both my dietician & weight-loss doc (endocrinologist) say "ignore exercise calories".
Actually, they'd never heard about the concept of "eating back" exercise calories.
That being said, if I'm really hungry at the end of the day, I'll have an hard-boiled egg,
or container of yogurt, a piece of fruit, etc. Something around 100 calories.
Have you tracked your moods compared to eating/exercise, so you can see if there's a link?
See how you feel if you exercise heavily and don't eat vs. if you do.
See how both affect your weight.
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malibu wrote:What are your stats and how much are you eating a day?
I'm a bit taller & heavier than you, and my goal is 1400 / day.OneTwentyThree wrote:5'6 150, I eat 1500 on days i dont exercise. Yesterday I did kickboxing and ate 1800.
I feel like 1800 was enough and didnt actually feel hungry, but did feel crappy.
And the bad feeling wasnt from muscle tiredness.
Exercise is for health, and a bonus for weight loss, but doesn't affect how much I eat.
Both my dietician & weight-loss doc (endocrinologist) say "ignore exercise calories".
Actually, they'd never heard about the concept of "eating back" exercise calories.
That being said, if I'm really hungry at the end of the day, I'll have an hard-boiled egg,
or container of yogurt, a piece of fruit, etc. Something around 100 calories.
Have you tracked your moods compared to eating/exercise, so you can see if there's a link?
See how you feel if you exercise heavily and don't eat vs. if you do.
See how both affect your weight.
But your doctor and dietitians don't know MFP. MFP already has a built in deficit, so you ARE supposed to eat back exercise calorie.
I lost 80 pounds at 5'5" and never ate less than 1650. You don't have to starve yourself to lose weight.0 -
malibu wrote:What are your stats and how much are you eating a day?
I'm a bit taller & heavier than you, and my goal is 1400 / day.OneTwentyThree wrote:5'6 150, I eat 1500 on days i dont exercise. Yesterday I did kickboxing and ate 1800.
I feel like 1800 was enough and didnt actually feel hungry, but did feel crappy.
And the bad feeling wasnt from muscle tiredness.
Exercise is for health, and a bonus for weight loss, but doesn't affect how much I eat.
Both my dietician & weight-loss doc (endocrinologist) say "ignore exercise calories".
Actually, they'd never heard about the concept of "eating back" exercise calories.
That being said, if I'm really hungry at the end of the day, I'll have an hard-boiled egg,
or container of yogurt, a piece of fruit, etc. Something around 100 calories.
Have you tracked your moods compared to eating/exercise, so you can see if there's a link?
See how you feel if you exercise heavily and don't eat vs. if you do.
See how both affect your weight.
So they don't understand that MFP uses the NEAT method meaning you should eat your exercise calories because they have no impact on your already built in deficit. If using the TDEE method then no, you don't eat exercise back.0 -
"Im just asking how others know when they are under eating. " The only indication I get that I'm not eating enough is the web site telling me I'm not eating enough. There was a day a few weeks ago when I was doing much strenuous labor outdoors and became faint, a condition which was lifted when I ate a banana and resumed working. My net calories that day were 300.0
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At a moderate deficit I'm fine. In a deficit of 400-500 (which is aggressive for me), I start feeling sluggish, workouts suffer, I think about food constantly, I get muscle spasms from my workouts and have to supplement with magnesium and potassium, my physique and muscles look flat, I lose strength on both compound and bodybuilding lifts, and I hate everyone.2
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This doesn't happen every time and depends on how much below my goal, but it's usually the next day that I wake up exceptionally hungry, and I'll notice that I have less endurance when working out.
A very large deficit like the one I maintained for a few months (1200 calories with no eating back exercise - approved by my doctor to get below 300 quickly) gave me symptoms after a month or so. I felt like crap and just generally ill and not at the top of my game physically, mentally, or emotionally. I didn't realize quite what was going on until I upped my calories and was cured! I think it was the right plan for me at the time, but I wouldn't want to do it again.0 -
Sometimes if I'm not eating enough, I would more likely wake up feeling dizzy and have nausea.
After all, this means that I starved myself, like ate only breakfast or so.
I would also feel really dizzy once I stand up.
I mostly don't feel anything as long as I'm full (this would be after eating lots of vegetables).
Not sure if that helps, but I hope i did. ^^0 -
When I don't eat enough, I get light headed, and nauseous. I snack on a piece of fruit or nuts and if I start feeling better I know that's what was causing it.0
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I know I'm not eating enough if I stand up from sitting or laying down and immediately feel dizzy. Lightheaded and shaky are also symptoms that I need to eat.0
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OneTwentyThree wrote: »I am trying to figure out if I am not eating enough calories with the type of exercise I do. I dont feel hungry, and feels like I ate enough, but at the end of the day and the next morning I feel like crap.
When you eat less than you are supposed to how do you notice it? Do you feel hungry in your stomach, tired, etc? What are the symptoms.
Hope my question makes sense, thanks
Edit: not looking for advice, just want to know what signs and symptoms help others realize they are not eating enough?
I was under=eating when I was at 1200 net calorie intake (briefly, because I realized it, and adjusted).
I'm not HG. I just got really fatigued (not just sleepy, but a bone-tired kind of thing), and felt like my strength was decreasing (my rowing shell (boat) felt heavier when I picked it up, for example). I also lost weight too rapidly (around or above 2lbs/week, which was too much for my relative size at the time).
It turned out that the calculators (including MFP's) underestimate my calorie requirements.
Later, I found that my fingernails had been getting brittle (you don't really observe this effect until weeks/months later when the weak part grows out to the end of your nail - I recognized it because the same thing happened from chemotherapy).
Also, if you're feeling crappy, check in with yourself about whether you're getting adequate sleep (quantity and quality), getting the right macro/micro nutrients, and drinking enough water or equivalent. No need to go overboard on any of that, but it's easy to let them slide a little, and if you're already in calorie deficit, the effect of one or more of the others can be more noticeable. Excess stress can also be a contributor.0 -
Assuming you know what you are doing, under eating calories for one or two days is quite beneficial. It's what a lot of fasting practices follow.0
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endlessfall16 wrote: »Assuming you know what you are doing, under eating calories for one or two days is quite beneficial. It's what a lot of fasting practices follow.
If someone is already eating at a calorie deficit, what benefits would they have?0 -
I can get a bit shaky if I don't eat enough or I'm weaker at the gym0
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I do best and feel great eating about 50% carbs. When they get under 30% I get a kind of fuzzy headache. If you're doing low carb, be sure to check your electrolytes and get enough sodium, potassium, and magnesium.OneTwentyThree wrote: »
What would be considered low carbs for you when you start feeling bad?CaptainJoy wrote: »I've noticed if I'm too low on carbs or sugar I get a headache. If I start feeling bad I check my macros under nutrition to see what's off/different and tweak what I eat.0 -
OneTwentyThree wrote: »
I'm 5'6" 162 and eat around 1300 a day. I rarely eat back my exercise calories, but I do have the hypoglycemia issues so.
When my sugars get low I can get a variety of symptoms, but the most frequent is that I get 'hangry'. Irritability is one of the more common side effects of low sugar, and yet its frequently one that people have to point out before we realize it's happenening.
Other side effects are nausea, difficulty concentrating, and general malaise (feeling like crap).
If your problems are hitting you hard when you first wake up, the best thing to try is to allocate 100-200 calories for a protein rich snack at the end of your day. It's the old fast sugar/slow sugar rule. Fast sugars (simple sugars like hard candy or fruit juice) bring you up in a hurry but also let you down pretty fast, slow sugars like the protein in peanut butter (I'm aware that protein isn't a sugar, I swear) or cheese will hold you level for a longer period and you don't get the roller coaster effect that leads to the kicked in the pants feeling.
I usually down a stick of string cheese (80 cal) or a greek yogurt (120 cal) depending on whether I want something sweet before sleep or something savory. My issues are more reactive, so snacking is how I keep it in control. Your calorie limit should be fine as I eat less at a higher BMR and don't usually get the ish. Try pushing your calories around during the day and see if splitting them up into smaller, more frequent meals or adding in protein rich snacks helps with the workout hangover.0 -
I often have little appetite after an intense workout, and if I don't eat I feel dull and tired for the rest of the day. I kind of lose interest in things and feel really unmotivated generally.
I usually don't bother forcing myself to eat if I'm already home and done for the day, because I know that the next day I will be extra hungry. I just "bank" the calories on exercise day and eat them the next.
If you think it may be related to your hypoglycemia, check your BG just in case. It only takes a minute, and as you know, letting your blood sugar fall too far can be very dangerous.0 -
I can tell when I under eat (which is often) by the confusion, irritability, headache, nausea that I experience when I do. I usually have a glass of 1% milk or a handful of almonds to bring my blood sugar back up.0
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I think it would be different for everyone but a headache is usually the first clue for me.0
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If I don't eat enough, I get moody. I'll also get a headache or experience light-headedness. Not fun.0
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Biggest symptoms I've noticed are fatigue and more prone to depressive moods if I'm under 1,200.0
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When i under eat it doesn't take long to catch up with me. I feel lazy (just want to sit on the couch all day and watch tv) and I want to eat everything in the house that's not nailed down!!0
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