Fat cals
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Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »geneticsteacher wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?
Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?
How many calories do i have to burn in order to burn the 200 cals of sat fat? 2000?
You can't exercise X amount to burn off a specific amount of saturated fat.
Edited to clarify: you can't decide which fuel sources specifically are burned through exercise. For example you can't eat 200 cal of sat fat and 200 calories of carbs and then exercise away the sat fat calories. This is how I'm reading your question. If my interpretation is wrong, ignore me.
So basically their is no way possible to know how much fat you burn off right? I heard something after a certain time amount, your body starts burning/ breaking down fat to use as a source of energy in a workout after oyou use up a certain amount of carbs cals right?
No - wrong.
For the vast majority of time when exercising your body is burning both carbs and fat. The proportion of the two is mainly determined by exercise intensity.
Stop sweating the small stuff! Concentrate on sustaining a sensible daily/weekly deficit and you will lose body fat.
Just trying to figure if their is a way to burn sat fat because sat fat is bad for us.
i do not think you understand biology....5 -
rainbowbow wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »geneticsteacher wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?
Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?
How many calories do i have to burn in order to burn the 200 cals of sat fat? 2000?
You can't exercise X amount to burn off a specific amount of saturated fat.
Edited to clarify: you can't decide which fuel sources specifically are burned through exercise. For example you can't eat 200 cal of sat fat and 200 calories of carbs and then exercise away the sat fat calories. This is how I'm reading your question. If my interpretation is wrong, ignore me.
So basically their is no way possible to know how much fat you burn off right? I heard something after a certain time amount, your body starts burning/ breaking down fat to use as a source of energy in a workout after oyou use up a certain amount of carbs cals right?
No - wrong.
For the vast majority of time when exercising your body is burning both carbs and fat. The proportion of the two is mainly determined by exercise intensity.
Stop sweating the small stuff! Concentrate on sustaining a sensible daily/weekly deficit and you will lose body fat.
Just trying to figure if their is a way to burn sat fat because sat fat is bad for us.
i do not think you understand biology....
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Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »geneticsteacher wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?
Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?
How many calories do i have to burn in order to burn the 200 cals of sat fat? 2000?
You can't exercise X amount to burn off a specific amount of saturated fat.
Edited to clarify: you can't decide which fuel sources specifically are burned through exercise. For example you can't eat 200 cal of sat fat and 200 calories of carbs and then exercise away the sat fat calories. This is how I'm reading your question. If my interpretation is wrong, ignore me.
So basically their is no way possible to know how much fat you burn off right? I heard something after a certain time amount, your body starts burning/ breaking down fat to use as a source of energy in a workout after oyou use up a certain amount of carbs cals right?
No - wrong.
For the vast majority of time when exercising your body is burning both carbs and fat. The proportion of the two is mainly determined by exercise intensity.
Stop sweating the small stuff! Concentrate on sustaining a sensible daily/weekly deficit and you will lose body fat.
Just trying to figure if their is a way to burn sat fat because sat fat is bad for us.
I'm sorry but no, it's not possible to burn off a specific source of calories (not sat fat, not carbs not protein etc). You don't get to decide that. That's not how it works biologically.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »geneticsteacher wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?
Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?
How many calories do i have to burn in order to burn the 200 cals of sat fat? 2000?
You can't exercise X amount to burn off a specific amount of saturated fat.
Edited to clarify: you can't decide which fuel sources specifically are burned through exercise. For example you can't eat 200 cal of sat fat and 200 calories of carbs and then exercise away the sat fat calories. This is how I'm reading your question. If my interpretation is wrong, ignore me.
So basically their is no way possible to know how much fat you burn off right? I heard something after a certain time amount, your body starts burning/ breaking down fat to use as a source of energy in a workout after oyou use up a certain amount of carbs cals right?
No - wrong.
For the vast majority of time when exercising your body is burning both carbs and fat. The proportion of the two is mainly determined by exercise intensity.
Stop sweating the small stuff! Concentrate on sustaining a sensible daily/weekly deficit and you will lose body fat.
Just trying to figure if their is a way to burn sat fat because sat fat is bad for us.
i do not think you understand biology....
lol i dont even understand the question :huh:
He wants to exercise off the saturated fat that he's consuming because it's unhealthy. He's not worried about burning off the other calories.
Maybe you're confused because it's physically impossible. It took me a while to figure out what the idea was.3 -
How about limiting the foods that contain saturated fats? Look up the foods on the USDA food database before you consume and log them. As everyone has mentioned, you cannot burn off a specific fat... The body decides what to burn...you cannot choose.Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »geneticsteacher wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?
Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?
How many calories do i have to burn in order to burn the 200 cals of sat fat? 2000?
You can't exercise X amount to burn off a specific amount of saturated fat.
Edited to clarify: you can't decide which fuel sources specifically are burned through exercise. For example you can't eat 200 cal of sat fat and 200 calories of carbs and then exercise away the sat fat calories. This is how I'm reading your question. If my interpretation is wrong, ignore me.
So basically their is no way possible to know how much fat you burn off right? I heard something after a certain time amount, your body starts burning/ breaking down fat to use as a source of energy in a workout after oyou use up a certain amount of carbs cals right?
No - wrong.
For the vast majority of time when exercising your body is burning both carbs and fat. The proportion of the two is mainly determined by exercise intensity.
Stop sweating the small stuff! Concentrate on sustaining a sensible daily/weekly deficit and you will lose body fat.
Just trying to figure if their is a way to burn sat fat because sat fat is bad for us.
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Yes and No.0
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Knightride48 wrote: »So what you all are saying is that for example I eat a 7:30, end at 7:50 I have consumed 20 grams of saturated fat for a 2000 calorie diet. SO their is no way possible to exercise it off for instance attempting to go from san diego,california to san antonio,tx?
Yes. If you manage to run from San Diego CA to San Antonio TX, you will have successfully burned off your 20 grams of saturated fat. Especially if you ate it between 7:30 and 7:50. But you have to start the run within 21 minutes of 7:50, or the saturated fat will have subluxated into adipose tissue in your body and taken up permanent residence, at which point you can't burn it off anymore. Lace up your shoes and get going.
[ETA:] But since you ate the 20 grams of saturated fat back in July, it's too late now. It has probably already hardened in your arteries because you didn't run to San Antonio within 21 minutes after ingesting it. Fortunately for you though, cake sandwiches are good to prevent hardening of the arteries because they're soft and spongy, and will help make your arteries soft and spongy also.8 -
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Knightride48 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Yes and No.
So does it require a extreme amount of exercise in order to tap into sat fat reserves.
If you want to tap into your fat stores more effieciently, eat a very low carb high fat ketogenic diet and exercise. After a few months your body will prefer fats as a fuel and your fat burning capabilities will rise. A lot.
Sarurated fats as a health risk is blown way out of proportion in my opinion. From what I can see, saturated fats are only a health risk when you pair it up with a lot of sugar )or refined grains).0 -
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Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Yes and No.
So does it require a extreme amount of exercise in order to tap into sat fat reserves.
If you want to tap into your fat stores more effieciently, eat a very low carb high fat ketogenic diet and exercise. After a few months your body will prefer fats as a fuel and your fat burning capabilities will rise. A lot.
Sarurated fats as a health risk is blown way out of proportion in my opinion. From what I can see, saturated fats are only a health risk when you pair it up with a lot of sugar )or refined grains).
Wb 4 cups whole milk?
? I'm not sure what you mean? 4 cups of whole milk is dangerous? I only buy whole milk for my family and they seem fine with a few cups per day.
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@Knightride48 I live in Canada. They finally got rid of the saturated fat upper limits. Finally.
So come on up here and drink up.
In all seriousness though, I firmly believe those saturated fats limits were based on no good science at all. The fact that Canada removed their sat fat limits reflects that.0 -
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Fat Calories do not store as fat in your body only excessive calories from all Macro's store as future energy (Fat). So if you eat in a deficit yes you can burn all of the saturated Fat you eat everyday. Day one starts now..lol-- Figure out your TDEE eat at or below and all will be good.
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Knightride48 wrote: »
4 cups whole milk has 20g fat, which i believe is the limit for adults.Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Yes and No.
So does it require a extreme amount of exercise in order to tap into sat fat reserves.
If you want to tap into your fat stores more effieciently, eat a very low carb high fat ketogenic diet and exercise. After a few months your body will prefer fats as a fuel and your fat burning capabilities will rise. A lot.
Sarurated fats as a health risk is blown way out of proportion in my opinion. From what I can see, saturated fats are only a health risk when you pair it up with a lot of sugar )or refined grains).
Wb 4 cups whole milk?
? I'm not sure what you mean? 4 cups of whole milk is dangerous? I only buy whole milk for my family and they seem fine with a few cups per day.
The recommended limit in the US is no more than 10% of calories, although it doesn't matter if you go over on a specific day. I see about 18 g for 4 cups of whole milk. Also 600 calories which seems kind of high for milk if you are on a 2000 calorie diet.0 -
This post was starting to feel a bit like the old Abbott & Costello's "Whose on First?" bit ...3
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This is the latest from the AHA, updated February this year http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Saturated-Fats_UCM_301110_Article.jsp#.V49XdpB4WrU
"The American Heart Association recommends aiming for a dietary pattern that achieves 5% to 6% of calories from saturated fat. That means, for example, if you need about 2,000 calories a day, no more than 120 of them should come from saturated fats. That’s about 13 grams of saturated fats a day."
This NIH metastudy is from 2015 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26068959..
.I have only scanned the abstract but may have missed something
"The findings of this updated review are suggestive of a small but potentially important reduction in cardiovascular risk on reduction of saturated fat intake. Replacing the energy from saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat appears to be a useful strategy, and replacement with carbohydrate appears less useful, but effects of replacement with monounsaturated fat were unclear due to inclusion of only one small trial. This effect did not appear to alter by study duration, sex or baseline level of cardiovascular risk. Lifestyle advice to all those at risk of cardiovascular disease and to lower risk population groups should continue to include permanent reduction of dietary saturated fat and partial replacement by unsaturated fats. The ideal type of unsaturated fat is unclear."
First, remember the AHA has some bias (regardless of their claims) due to their funding sources. Heck, not only are they funded by food and pharma corporations, they were mostly FOUNDED by the makers of Crisco oil. Assuming they are the 'gold standard' for nutritional advice is akin to believing the American Diabetes Association advice that 55% carbohydrate in a diet is good for diabetics. Neither agency is using sound science for their recommendations.
Second - regarding the study you reference ... the ONLY intervention they looked at was what were the results from diets low in saturated fat. These studies put people on diets. The fact they were all now more health-conscious generally accounts for the very tiny reduction in CV events. Note that there was NO effect on stroke, only MI - which should make one suspicious.
It would be better if they had chosen diets that compared health markers in reduced-saturated-fat diets to other types of diets. But the study didn't do that.
None of the selected studies did advance lipid testing to determine if the LDL changes were actually beneficial ... increases in LDL aren't always bad - it depends on the types of particles. Generally speaking, in most dietary intervention that raises LDL, lowers triglycerides and increases HDL we see that the raise in LDL is due to increases in the larger LDL particles which are actually healthy, not harmful.
When we see patients that reduce refined/processed carbs and refined oils AND increase saturated fat intake - and do advanced lipid testing - the results are almost always greatly improved CV-risk profiles.0 -
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Knightride48 wrote: »
Abd i know that a heart attack is a 4 figure bill so thats why i try to limit sat fat .@Knightride48 I live in Canada. They finally got rid of the saturated fat upper limits. Finally.
So come on up here and drink up.
In all seriousness though, I firmly believe those saturated fats limits were based on no good science at all. The fact that Canada removed their sat fat limits reflects that.
That's the myth I'm talking about there. Saturated fats do not cause heart disease. They are not bad for you.
Saturated fats are what your body uses to store energy. If it was bad to use as fuel, mother nature would have designed us differently - perhaps with huge glucose reserves or polyunsaturated fat instead. 0 -
Knightride48 wrote: »
Abd i know that a heart attack is a 4 figure bill so thats why i try to limit sat fat .@Knightride48 I live in Canada. They finally got rid of the saturated fat upper limits. Finally.
So come on up here and drink up.
In all seriousness though, I firmly believe those saturated fats limits were based on no good science at all. The fact that Canada removed their sat fat limits reflects that.
That's the myth I'm talking about there. Saturated fats do not cause heart disease. They are not bad for you.
Saturated fats are what your body uses to store energy. If it was bad to use as fuel, mother nature would have designed us differently - perhaps with huge glucose reserves or polyunsaturated fat instead.
they are if you have health issues. I have to eat very low fat but mainly watching my saturated fat intake the most and cholesterol.if I eat a lot of it saturated fat my cholesterol shoots up higher even with meds. right now most of my cholesterol is in a normal range for the first time in my life since being diagnosed with FH.for me it increases the cholesterol in my blood which my body already produces too much of.0
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