Cutting out the meat
AprilMae1975
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So I watched the documentary "Vegucated" and I have decided to slowly cut meat out of my diet. I am almost a week in and I feel GREAT!!!! Is there anyone else out there decide to go vegetarian/vegan that can offer tips on going forward would be much appreciated.
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Have not seen the film but the science of vegetarianism comes up short. Homo Sapiens are carnivores, certainly omnivores. The design of their alimentary canal makes that clear. We also lack the ability to make our own B12 which only comes from meat. We're not designed for grains of any kind, our insulin profile suggests we should minimize fruits, we can handle vegetables but our food of choice is always meat. our systems are designed for high fat, high protein and low carbohydrate diets. Sorry to burst your bubble. but stick with the bacon.0
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Keep in mind Vegucated is a movie against all animal products and byproducts (so including all dairy, eggs, gelatins, etc etc). I watched this movie a while back just after I made the decision not to consume meat anymore (I am slowly changing to a Vegan diet now).
Make sure you are getting the nutrients you need. B 12 for example is only available through animal products or fortified foods. Look into getting nutritional yeast as it's the only non-animal form of B12 without going for fortified foods. It has a nutty/cheesy kind of taste to it. I use it when I make seitan (it's a fake meat... super yummy if you don't have a gluten intolerance), I put it on popcorn, in salads, in sauces, etc. Ensure you get your B vitamins and your iron etc.
Don't go for the unhealthy vegetarian foods. Be careful of which processed meats you buy as they can be loaded with sodium and other crap. It's super easy to make your own either with seitan or with textured vegetable protein.
Also, decide how strict you will be with it. Will you eat meat when at someone's house? Out at a restaurant? WIll you eat something that has been cooked with meat, has meat on it that you have to pick off, etc. If you won't eat meat again be sure to plan ahead. When I know I'm going to a BBQ, I bring a veggie burger with me or one of my seitan burgers. Check out restaruants before you go.. some have veggie options some don't outside of salad. So far I've noticed a lot of places are great with taking out the meat in something and adding in extra veggies. I personally will never eat meat again and haven't in over a year. Some people have been great with my choice... some not so much. I personally don't take about my diet choices unless asked .0 -
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We also lack the ability to make our own B12 which only comes from meat. We're not designed for grains of any kind, our insulin profile suggests we should minimize fruits, we can handle vegetables but our food of choice is always meat. our systems are designed for high fat, high protein and low carbohydrate diets. Sorry to burst your bubble. but stick with the bacon.
B12 doesn't only come from meat. Nutritional yeast has a great deal of B12 for a small amount.
And sorry but I dont' agree with everything else you wrote. We are humans and have the ability to choose what we want to eat. We don't have to eat meat. We can get by and be perfectly healthy without meat or animal products.
OP, in addition to my post expect people will make comments like the one above where the only proper human diet is a meat eating diet.0 -
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We also lack the ability to make our own B12 which only comes from meat. We're not designed for grains of any kind, our insulin profile suggests we should minimize fruits, we can handle vegetables but our food of choice is always meat. our systems are designed for high fat, high protein and low carbohydrate diets. Sorry to burst your bubble. but stick with the bacon.
B12 doesn't only come from meat. Nutritional yeast has a great deal of B12 for a small amount.
And sorry but I dont' agree with everything else you wrote. We are humans and have the ability to choose what we want to eat. We don't have to eat meat. We can get by and be perfectly healthy without meat or animal products.
OP, in addition to my post expect people will make comments like the one above where the only proper human diet is a meat eating diet.
This is absolutely true. You should definitely expect to hear differing opinions on any topic on a public message board.0 -
Just make sure you know how to get adequate protein, iron, B12 and other nutrients you'll be missing out on without meat...it's important and a lot of vegetarians falls short. I have nothing against people going veg, but I don't like to see people doing it without having put in the proper research in RE to how to get proper nutrition and make up for those things you will be missing in your diet by not eating meat.0
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Thanks for all the comments. I still need to do a lot more research, but my decision is to give it at least 30 days. What I can say is that I feel better than I have felt in a very long time and I can only contribute it to not eating meat.0
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Maybe you feel great because you've created a caloric deficit that would have otherwise not been there.Thanks for all the comments. I still need to do a lot more research, but my decision is to give it at least 30 days. What I can say is that I feel better than I have felt in a very long time and I can only contribute it to not eating meat.0 -
Woot! Make sure you get all your nutrients - i keep some multivitamins/minerals handy just in case.....
It's a great way to try lots of new foods too. Before vegetarian, i had no idea what haloumi or paneer was.
Other protein options:
Textured vegetable protein
Nuts
Non-rennet cheeses (goaty cheese usually is sans-rennet)
Hummus
Lentils
Soy and soy products
Yogurt
Seaweed, sea kelp, those crunchy thin seaweeds - not high protein, but lots of nutrients and just yummy
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Thanks for all the comments. I still need to do a lot more research, but my decision is to give it at least 30 days. What I can say is that I feel better than I have felt in a very long time and I can only contribute it to not eating meat.
Placebo effect.
Or not.
Just throwing it out there.0 -
I did a vegan diet for 3 weeks. Never felt better in my life. So much energy, digestion, sleep. My skin was clearer, my allergies disappeared, and my stomach has never been flatter. I am back to meat and dairy, but in much smaller quantities and less often. Try Karma Chow cookbook for some great recipes. Good luck!0
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I try not to make life decisions based off of movies.0
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Thanks for all the comments. I still need to do a lot more research, but my decision is to give it at least 30 days. What I can say is that I feel better than I have felt in a very long time and I can only contribute it to not eating meat.
Placebo effect.
Or not.
Just throwing it out there.
I know my body.....i feel different, can't explain it, just different.0 -
The nice thing about trying out different diets is you pick up a wide variety of cooking techniques, and become more informed about macro and micro nutrients from a lot of different foods. Regardless of where you ultimately end up, it's useful knowledge.
If you want to have some fun with diet documentaries, watch "The Perfect Human Diet" and "Forks over Knives" in one evening.0 -
You can easily get enough protein, iron and other micro nutrients from being a vegetarian, it just requires a bit more knowledge and planning meals. It's a lot harder to get B12, but you can get it from cheese and eggs if you're still eating those. There is also a type of yeast some vegans use that contains natural B12. Or you can choose to take a supplement, I always try to get it from the source but this is an option.
Just make sure you're making complete protein chains, some of these look like: Rice and Beans or Cabbage and Potatoes. There is actually a ton of protein in grains as well like quinoa.
Be careful about eating too much tofu, it can cause bloating if you're sensitive, I try to keep it at 1 serving a day.
Most cereals and packaged foods generally come iron fortified, but there are plenty of foods that have iron in them: http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000119000000000000000-w.html
I switched to Pescatarian, which means the only meat I eat is fish. I also do not eat eggs, milk and I limit my cheese to 1-3oz a week. This has solved a lot of my digestion issues and I've been feeling fantastic. I did try to be vegan, and I still have days where I naturally eat vegan because I love it.
Good luck to you
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I try not to make life decisions based off of movies.
The movie brought awareness. I chose to make a decision based on what I learned from it, not because of it...there's a difference.0 -
Giving up meat is a bad idea....0
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I try not to make life decisions based off of movies.
But dude...Wayne's World was awesome...that's how I'm livin' brah!!!
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You can easily get enough protein, iron and other micro nutrients from being a vegetarian, it just requires a bit more knowledge and planning meals. It's a lot harder to get B12, but you can get it from cheese and eggs if you're still eating those. There is also a type of yeast some vegans use that contains natural B12. Or you can choose to take a supplement, I always try to get it from the source but this is an option.
Just make sure you're making complete protein chains, some of these look like: Rice and Beans or Cabbage and Potatoes. There is actually a ton of protein in grains as well like quinoa.
Be careful about eating too much tofu, it can cause bloating if you're sensitive, I try to keep it at 1 serving a day.
Most cereals and packaged foods generally come iron fortified, but there are plenty of foods that have iron in them: http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000119000000000000000-w.html
I switched to Pescatarian, which means the only meat I eat is fish. I also do not eat eggs, milk and I limit my cheese to 1-3oz a week. This has solved a lot of my digestion issues and I've been feeling fantastic. I did try to be vegan, and I still have days where I naturally eat vegan because I love it.
Good luck to you
Thanks for all the info
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I did a vegan diet for 3 weeks. Never felt better in my life. So much energy, digestion, sleep. My skin was clearer, my allergies disappeared, and my stomach has never been flatter. I am back to meat and dairy, but in much smaller quantities and less often. Try Karma Chow cookbook for some great recipes. Good luck!
I feel great too!!! Even just cutting down is good!0 -
I recommend "Forks over Knives," also. Human do NOT need meat, and all studies show that more fruits and vegetables are necessary for health.
The more and longer I eat vegetabes, the more I love them- I used to think I hated them.
Try baking spaghetti squash and then mixing in stewed tomatos.
I have much more energy since going vegetarian, and I no longer have joint pain and stiffness- keep it up!0 -
I try not to make life decisions based off of movies.
But dude...Wayne's World was awesome...that's how I'm livin' brah!!!
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I like the meat!
Human's have been eating it since the beginning of time, so there can't be anything wrong with it.
But best to luck to you on not eating it0 -
I try not to make life decisions based off of movies.
The movie brought awareness. I chose to make a decision based on what I learned from it, not because of it...there's a difference.
Terminator taught us computers are evil and will take over the world. You might want to stop using them.0 -
I recommend "Forks over Knives," also. Human do NOT need meat, and all studies show that more fruits and vegetables are necessary for health.
The more and longer I eat vegetabes, the more I love them- I used to think I hated them.
Try baking spaghetti squash and then mixing in stewed tomatos.
I have much more energy since going vegetarian, and I no longer have joint pain and stiffness- keep it up!
The thing is, I don't think if I didn't eat meat for the rest of my life I would die sooner than I would if I did eat meat lol!! People make it seem like if you don't get meat that you are going to die....I don't get that lol!!
Thank you so much for the info. I already eat lots of veggies so this won't be too hard for me. Hardest part is the stuff I shouldn't be eating like the cheese.....it's just so good!!0 -
I try not to make life decisions based off of movies.
The movie brought awareness. I chose to make a decision based on what I learned from it, not because of it...there's a difference.
Terminator taught us computers are evil and will take over the world. You might want to stop using them.
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I am a vegetarian. I was vegan for 11 years. My son is an 11 year old vegan.
It can be done and can be healthy for a number of reasons.
I want to say that I don't think humans are "herbivores" nor "omnivores" nor "carnivores." Humans are frugivores, which is a primarily plant based diet with small supplements of meat (mostly insects, actually). I think the healthiest diet for humans, based on evolution, would be vegan with the occasional slab of dead animal. That being said, I'm a vegetarian for my own reasons having nothing to do with what kind of teeth I have.
You can be healthy as a vegetarian and there are lots of great things for a vegetarian to eat. I don't spend any time worrying about what to eat. There's plenty of food out there that's vegetarian to eat.
The main concern I have had as a vegetarian is protein. It's not a problem if you aren't trying to build muscle, but trying to get 110 g's of protein a day as a vegetarian weight lifter (who has some dairy issues) is a little challenging for me. As the mother of a vegan, my primary concern is b vitamins, Omega 3's (in flax oil), and complete proteins for my son.
But just know there are quite a few vegetarians about and if you want support in that, you will find it.0 -
I like the meat!
Human's have been eating it since the beginning of time, so there can't be anything wrong with it.
But best to luck to you on not eating it
I honestly love meat too, I just don't like the way we have to get our meat. I had never thought of the whole process before and when I was made aware of things it just made me really sad. Thanks for the support even if it's not what you choose I respect everyone's choices 0
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