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  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
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    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
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    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    You forgot calorie surplus?

    Could you explain how 'greasy' calories sabotage your efforts?

    The health effects of greasy food not only depend on how greasy it is but also on whether you use saturated or unsaturated oil.The "greasiness" of food depends on the way you cook it and how much oil you use. Using just a little oil in a pan to sauté food makes food a little greasy, shallow-frying makes it more greasy, and deep-frying makes it especially greasy and high in calories. When you eat more calories than you burn in a day, your body stores the extra energy. Continuing this pattern over time causes weight gain, which can lead to becoming overweight or obese. Because heavily consuming greasy foods that were cooked in saturated fat raises cholesterol levels, your risk of both heart disease and stroke is elevated. Too much saturated fat causes plaque to build up in your arteries over time, blocking blood flow and putting you at a high risk for heart attack and stroke.

    But you need more calories than you burn in order to gain muscle, no?

    True but you dont want to forget the source! A high protein diet and high protein foods will help with muscle growth and recovery. The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) is 0.36 grams of protein per lb of body weight. However, this recommendation is for the average person.As an athlete with an active lifestyle, you will require more protein to help with muscle recovery and protein synthesis. The general rule of thumb for athletes is 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight.In addition, having a high protein diet will boost your metabolism and therefore will help burn fat while you work to build muscle.

    Wait.... so a high protien diet increases metabolism, which will burn the fat you have and convert it to muscle? Is that what you're saying....

    yes

    I think you should quit while you're ahead... It sounds like your just quoting a lot of bro science which has its place but it won't go over well here....

    High protien won't boost your metabolism and your body won't burn it's fat unless you're in a calorie deficit. That's why when people bulk they gain fat with their muscle.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/248410-the-effects-of-a-high-protein-diet-on-metabolism/
    "Protein has profound effects on your metabolism. Though they both contain four calories per gram, protein forces your body to use more calories in digestion than carbohydrates do. This thermic effect accounts for one of the ways that a high-protein diet speeds up metabolism. In addition, protein builds metabolically active muscle and prevents body fat storage."

    what this doesn't say, is that by cutting carbohydrates you are forcing your body to convert protein for energy sources. this takes away valuable protein which could be used for rebuilding muscle and tissue. This is why carbohydrates are called "protein sparing".


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_sparing
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,411 MFP Moderator
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    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    You forgot calorie surplus?

    Could you explain how 'greasy' calories sabotage your efforts?

    The health effects of greasy food not only depend on how greasy it is but also on whether you use saturated or unsaturated oil.The "greasiness" of food depends on the way you cook it and how much oil you use. Using just a little oil in a pan to sauté food makes food a little greasy, shallow-frying makes it more greasy, and deep-frying makes it especially greasy and high in calories. When you eat more calories than you burn in a day, your body stores the extra energy. Continuing this pattern over time causes weight gain, which can lead to becoming overweight or obese. Because heavily consuming greasy foods that were cooked in saturated fat raises cholesterol levels, your risk of both heart disease and stroke is elevated. Too much saturated fat causes plaque to build up in your arteries over time, blocking blood flow and putting you at a high risk for heart attack and stroke.

    But you need more calories than you burn in order to gain muscle, no?

    True but you dont want to forget the source! A high protein diet and high protein foods will help with muscle growth and recovery. The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) is 0.36 grams of protein per lb of body weight. However, this recommendation is for the average person.As an athlete with an active lifestyle, you will require more protein to help with muscle recovery and protein synthesis. The general rule of thumb for athletes is 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight.In addition, having a high protein diet will boost your metabolism and therefore will help burn fat while you work to build muscle.

    Wait.... so a high protien diet increases metabolism, which will burn the fat you have and convert it to muscle? Is that what you're saying....

    yes

    I think you should quit while you're ahead... It sounds like your just quoting a lot of bro science which has its place but it won't go over well here....

    High protien won't boost your metabolism and your body won't burn it's fat unless you're in a calorie deficit. That's why when people bulk they gain fat with their muscle.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/248410-the-effects-of-a-high-protein-diet-on-metabolism/
    "Protein has profound effects on your metabolism. Though they both contain four calories per gram, protein forces your body to use more calories in digestion than carbohydrates do. This thermic effect accounts for one of the ways that a high-protein diet speeds up metabolism. In addition, protein builds metabolically active muscle and prevents body fat storage."

    The thermal effect of protein is minimal in the scheme of things. Even if i ate an extra 100 g (400 calories), the increase in TEF would be 80 to 100 calories. And that is a substantial increase in protein. Many would only do it by 40 to 50g over their current program.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    edited August 2016
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    psulemon wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    You forgot calorie surplus?

    Could you explain how 'greasy' calories sabotage your efforts?

    The health effects of greasy food not only depend on how greasy it is but also on whether you use saturated or unsaturated oil.The "greasiness" of food depends on the way you cook it and how much oil you use. Using just a little oil in a pan to sauté food makes food a little greasy, shallow-frying makes it more greasy, and deep-frying makes it especially greasy and high in calories. When you eat more calories than you burn in a day, your body stores the extra energy. Continuing this pattern over time causes weight gain, which can lead to becoming overweight or obese. Because heavily consuming greasy foods that were cooked in saturated fat raises cholesterol levels, your risk of both heart disease and stroke is elevated. Too much saturated fat causes plaque to build up in your arteries over time, blocking blood flow and putting you at a high risk for heart attack and stroke.

    But you need more calories than you burn in order to gain muscle, no?

    True but you dont want to forget the source! A high protein diet and high protein foods will help with muscle growth and recovery. The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) is 0.36 grams of protein per lb of body weight. However, this recommendation is for the average person.As an athlete with an active lifestyle, you will require more protein to help with muscle recovery and protein synthesis. The general rule of thumb for athletes is 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight.In addition, having a high protein diet will boost your metabolism and therefore will help burn fat while you work to build muscle.

    Wait.... so a high protien diet increases metabolism, which will burn the fat you have and convert it to muscle? Is that what you're saying....

    yes

    I think you should quit while you're ahead... It sounds like your just quoting a lot of bro science which has its place but it won't go over well here....

    High protien won't boost your metabolism and your body won't burn it's fat unless you're in a calorie deficit. That's why when people bulk they gain fat with their muscle.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/248410-the-effects-of-a-high-protein-diet-on-metabolism/
    "Protein has profound effects on your metabolism. Though they both contain four calories per gram, protein forces your body to use more calories in digestion than carbohydrates do. This thermic effect accounts for one of the ways that a high-protein diet speeds up metabolism. In addition, protein builds metabolically active muscle and prevents body fat storage."

    The thermal effect of protein is minimal in the scheme of things. Even if i ate an extra 100 g (400 calories), the increase in TEF would be 80 to 100 calories. And that is a substantial increase in protein. Many would only do it by 40 to 50g over their current program.

    and i want to know why this would be ideal when your goal is actually building new muscle mass.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,411 MFP Moderator
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    rainbowbow wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    You forgot calorie surplus?

    Could you explain how 'greasy' calories sabotage your efforts?

    The health effects of greasy food not only depend on how greasy it is but also on whether you use saturated or unsaturated oil.The "greasiness" of food depends on the way you cook it and how much oil you use. Using just a little oil in a pan to sauté food makes food a little greasy, shallow-frying makes it more greasy, and deep-frying makes it especially greasy and high in calories. When you eat more calories than you burn in a day, your body stores the extra energy. Continuing this pattern over time causes weight gain, which can lead to becoming overweight or obese. Because heavily consuming greasy foods that were cooked in saturated fat raises cholesterol levels, your risk of both heart disease and stroke is elevated. Too much saturated fat causes plaque to build up in your arteries over time, blocking blood flow and putting you at a high risk for heart attack and stroke.

    But you need more calories than you burn in order to gain muscle, no?

    True but you dont want to forget the source! A high protein diet and high protein foods will help with muscle growth and recovery. The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) is 0.36 grams of protein per lb of body weight. However, this recommendation is for the average person.As an athlete with an active lifestyle, you will require more protein to help with muscle recovery and protein synthesis. The general rule of thumb for athletes is 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight.In addition, having a high protein diet will boost your metabolism and therefore will help burn fat while you work to build muscle.

    Wait.... so a high protien diet increases metabolism, which will burn the fat you have and convert it to muscle? Is that what you're saying....

    yes

    I think you should quit while you're ahead... It sounds like your just quoting a lot of bro science which has its place but it won't go over well here....

    High protien won't boost your metabolism and your body won't burn it's fat unless you're in a calorie deficit. That's why when people bulk they gain fat with their muscle.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/248410-the-effects-of-a-high-protein-diet-on-metabolism/
    "Protein has profound effects on your metabolism. Though they both contain four calories per gram, protein forces your body to use more calories in digestion than carbohydrates do. This thermic effect accounts for one of the ways that a high-protein diet speeds up metabolism. In addition, protein builds metabolically active muscle and prevents body fat storage."

    The thermal effect of protein is minimal in the scheme of things. Even if i ate an extra 100 g (400 calories), the increase in TEF would be 80 to 100 calories. And that is a substantial increase in protein. Many would only do it by 40 to 50g over their current program.

    and i want to know why this would be ideal when your goal is actually building new muscle mass.

    I means I can eat more calories >:)
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
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    psulemon wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    You forgot calorie surplus?

    Could you explain how 'greasy' calories sabotage your efforts?

    The health effects of greasy food not only depend on how greasy it is but also on whether you use saturated or unsaturated oil.The "greasiness" of food depends on the way you cook it and how much oil you use. Using just a little oil in a pan to sauté food makes food a little greasy, shallow-frying makes it more greasy, and deep-frying makes it especially greasy and high in calories. When you eat more calories than you burn in a day, your body stores the extra energy. Continuing this pattern over time causes weight gain, which can lead to becoming overweight or obese. Because heavily consuming greasy foods that were cooked in saturated fat raises cholesterol levels, your risk of both heart disease and stroke is elevated. Too much saturated fat causes plaque to build up in your arteries over time, blocking blood flow and putting you at a high risk for heart attack and stroke.

    But you need more calories than you burn in order to gain muscle, no?

    True but you dont want to forget the source! A high protein diet and high protein foods will help with muscle growth and recovery. The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) is 0.36 grams of protein per lb of body weight. However, this recommendation is for the average person.As an athlete with an active lifestyle, you will require more protein to help with muscle recovery and protein synthesis. The general rule of thumb for athletes is 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight.In addition, having a high protein diet will boost your metabolism and therefore will help burn fat while you work to build muscle.

    Wait.... so a high protien diet increases metabolism, which will burn the fat you have and convert it to muscle? Is that what you're saying....

    yes

    I think you should quit while you're ahead... It sounds like your just quoting a lot of bro science which has its place but it won't go over well here....

    High protien won't boost your metabolism and your body won't burn it's fat unless you're in a calorie deficit. That's why when people bulk they gain fat with their muscle.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/248410-the-effects-of-a-high-protein-diet-on-metabolism/
    "Protein has profound effects on your metabolism. Though they both contain four calories per gram, protein forces your body to use more calories in digestion than carbohydrates do. This thermic effect accounts for one of the ways that a high-protein diet speeds up metabolism. In addition, protein builds metabolically active muscle and prevents body fat storage."

    The thermal effect of protein is minimal in the scheme of things. Even if i ate an extra 100 g (400 calories), the increase in TEF would be 80 to 100 calories. And that is a substantial increase in protein. Many would only do it by 40 to 50g over their current program.

    and i want to know why this would be ideal when your goal is actually building new muscle mass.

    I means I can eat more calories >:)

    muwahaha >:)
  • Mycophilia
    Mycophilia Posts: 1,225 Member
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    psulemon wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    You forgot calorie surplus?

    Could you explain how 'greasy' calories sabotage your efforts?

    The health effects of greasy food not only depend on how greasy it is but also on whether you use saturated or unsaturated oil.The "greasiness" of food depends on the way you cook it and how much oil you use. Using just a little oil in a pan to sauté food makes food a little greasy, shallow-frying makes it more greasy, and deep-frying makes it especially greasy and high in calories. When you eat more calories than you burn in a day, your body stores the extra energy. Continuing this pattern over time causes weight gain, which can lead to becoming overweight or obese. Because heavily consuming greasy foods that were cooked in saturated fat raises cholesterol levels, your risk of both heart disease and stroke is elevated. Too much saturated fat causes plaque to build up in your arteries over time, blocking blood flow and putting you at a high risk for heart attack and stroke.

    But you need more calories than you burn in order to gain muscle, no?

    True but you dont want to forget the source! A high protein diet and high protein foods will help with muscle growth and recovery. The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) is 0.36 grams of protein per lb of body weight. However, this recommendation is for the average person.As an athlete with an active lifestyle, you will require more protein to help with muscle recovery and protein synthesis. The general rule of thumb for athletes is 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight.In addition, having a high protein diet will boost your metabolism and therefore will help burn fat while you work to build muscle.

    Wait.... so a high protien diet increases metabolism, which will burn the fat you have and convert it to muscle? Is that what you're saying....

    yes

    I think you should quit while you're ahead... It sounds like your just quoting a lot of bro science which has its place but it won't go over well here....

    High protien won't boost your metabolism and your body won't burn it's fat unless you're in a calorie deficit. That's why when people bulk they gain fat with their muscle.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/248410-the-effects-of-a-high-protein-diet-on-metabolism/
    "Protein has profound effects on your metabolism. Though they both contain four calories per gram, protein forces your body to use more calories in digestion than carbohydrates do. This thermic effect accounts for one of the ways that a high-protein diet speeds up metabolism. In addition, protein builds metabolically active muscle and prevents body fat storage."

    The thermal effect of protein is minimal in the scheme of things. Even if i ate an extra 100 g (400 calories), the increase in TEF would be 80 to 100 calories. And that is a substantial increase in protein. Many would only do it by 40 to 50g over their current program.

    and i want to know why this would be ideal when your goal is actually building new muscle mass.

    I means I can eat more calories >:)

    I second this. Food is delicious, and getting to eat even a tiny bit more is awesome.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,411 MFP Moderator
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    rainbowbow wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    You forgot calorie surplus?

    Could you explain how 'greasy' calories sabotage your efforts?

    The health effects of greasy food not only depend on how greasy it is but also on whether you use saturated or unsaturated oil.The "greasiness" of food depends on the way you cook it and how much oil you use. Using just a little oil in a pan to sauté food makes food a little greasy, shallow-frying makes it more greasy, and deep-frying makes it especially greasy and high in calories. When you eat more calories than you burn in a day, your body stores the extra energy. Continuing this pattern over time causes weight gain, which can lead to becoming overweight or obese. Because heavily consuming greasy foods that were cooked in saturated fat raises cholesterol levels, your risk of both heart disease and stroke is elevated. Too much saturated fat causes plaque to build up in your arteries over time, blocking blood flow and putting you at a high risk for heart attack and stroke.

    But you need more calories than you burn in order to gain muscle, no?

    True but you dont want to forget the source! A high protein diet and high protein foods will help with muscle growth and recovery. The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) is 0.36 grams of protein per lb of body weight. However, this recommendation is for the average person.As an athlete with an active lifestyle, you will require more protein to help with muscle recovery and protein synthesis. The general rule of thumb for athletes is 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight.In addition, having a high protein diet will boost your metabolism and therefore will help burn fat while you work to build muscle.

    Wait.... so a high protien diet increases metabolism, which will burn the fat you have and convert it to muscle? Is that what you're saying....

    yes

    I think you should quit while you're ahead... It sounds like your just quoting a lot of bro science which has its place but it won't go over well here....

    High protien won't boost your metabolism and your body won't burn it's fat unless you're in a calorie deficit. That's why when people bulk they gain fat with their muscle.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/248410-the-effects-of-a-high-protein-diet-on-metabolism/
    "Protein has profound effects on your metabolism. Though they both contain four calories per gram, protein forces your body to use more calories in digestion than carbohydrates do. This thermic effect accounts for one of the ways that a high-protein diet speeds up metabolism. In addition, protein builds metabolically active muscle and prevents body fat storage."

    The thermal effect of protein is minimal in the scheme of things. Even if i ate an extra 100 g (400 calories), the increase in TEF would be 80 to 100 calories. And that is a substantial increase in protein. Many would only do it by 40 to 50g over their current program.

    and i want to know why this would be ideal when your goal is actually building new muscle mass.

    I means I can eat more calories >:)

    muwahaha >:)

    Especially when those calories come from ice cream, which stimulates insulin and MPS.... so you know.. more muscle!!!
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    psulemon wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    SoniaJay1 wrote: »
    You forgot calorie surplus?

    Could you explain how 'greasy' calories sabotage your efforts?

    The health effects of greasy food not only depend on how greasy it is but also on whether you use saturated or unsaturated oil.The "greasiness" of food depends on the way you cook it and how much oil you use. Using just a little oil in a pan to sauté food makes food a little greasy, shallow-frying makes it more greasy, and deep-frying makes it especially greasy and high in calories. When you eat more calories than you burn in a day, your body stores the extra energy. Continuing this pattern over time causes weight gain, which can lead to becoming overweight or obese. Because heavily consuming greasy foods that were cooked in saturated fat raises cholesterol levels, your risk of both heart disease and stroke is elevated. Too much saturated fat causes plaque to build up in your arteries over time, blocking blood flow and putting you at a high risk for heart attack and stroke.

    But you need more calories than you burn in order to gain muscle, no?

    True but you dont want to forget the source! A high protein diet and high protein foods will help with muscle growth and recovery. The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) is 0.36 grams of protein per lb of body weight. However, this recommendation is for the average person.As an athlete with an active lifestyle, you will require more protein to help with muscle recovery and protein synthesis. The general rule of thumb for athletes is 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight.In addition, having a high protein diet will boost your metabolism and therefore will help burn fat while you work to build muscle.

    Wait.... so a high protien diet increases metabolism, which will burn the fat you have and convert it to muscle? Is that what you're saying....

    yes

    I think you should quit while you're ahead... It sounds like your just quoting a lot of bro science which has its place but it won't go over well here....

    High protien won't boost your metabolism and your body won't burn it's fat unless you're in a calorie deficit. That's why when people bulk they gain fat with their muscle.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/248410-the-effects-of-a-high-protein-diet-on-metabolism/
    "Protein has profound effects on your metabolism. Though they both contain four calories per gram, protein forces your body to use more calories in digestion than carbohydrates do. This thermic effect accounts for one of the ways that a high-protein diet speeds up metabolism. In addition, protein builds metabolically active muscle and prevents body fat storage."

    The thermal effect of protein is minimal in the scheme of things. Even if i ate an extra 100 g (400 calories), the increase in TEF would be 80 to 100 calories. And that is a substantial increase in protein. Many would only do it by 40 to 50g over their current program.

    and i want to know why this would be ideal when your goal is actually building new muscle mass.

    I means I can eat more calories >:)

    muwahaha >:)

    Especially when those calories come from ice cream, which stimulates insulin and MPS.... so you know.. more muscle!!!

    No no no... ice cream is on the OP's naughty list as empty calories....