Who's doing intermittent fasting?

Diptiish

Hi guys! I have been doing research about IF from the past few days, and getting really nice reviews. I am thinking to give it a try! But i have some confusions, like, are we allowed to do our workout while on this challenge? If yes, during the fasted state. Or during your "opening window"? How many calories allowed to take in your opening window? A i going to build muscles if i do this fasting? (Coz i dont want muscles, i just want to lose weight) .. And what happens after you reach your goal weight? Be back to normal, is that so? Looking forward for some replies. Thank you in advance.

ebonyroche

I'm doing IF, I do 16/8 or 15/9 fast from 8pm to 12pm but sometimes 11am. You will not gain muscle by doing IF, you will have to lift weights for that. I workout during my fasted state but it is up to you if you want to workout and when. I eat my allotted calories set by MFP to lose 1lb/week and I usually come in under that.

Check out the IF group, it has a lot of info and topics you can look into. Good luck to you

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/49-intermittent-fasting

Diptiish

I'm doing IF, I do 16/8 or 15/9 fast from 8pm to 12pm but sometimes 11am. You will not gain muscle by doing IF, you will have to lift weights for that. I workout during my fasted state but it is up to you if you want to workout and when. I eat my allotted calories set by MFP to lose 1lb/week and I usually come in under that.

Check out the IF group, it has a lot of info and topics you can look into. Good luck to you

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/49-intermittent-fasting

Thankyou!

shadus

You have trouble eating 1200 calories a day regularly while doing >1k cals in exercise fairly regularly, intermittent fasting can require you to eat your normal daily allotment of calories in a shorter time period than a full day, so is probably not a good option. You're already having issues with being able to get enough calories to meet your goals... making you have a short time limit on reaching those goals instead of all day long isn't going to help.

Anytime you're functioning in a deficit you're ~not~ going to gain muscle mass. That said though-- you want to minimize your muscle loss... otherwise you end up hitting your target weight and still not being "thin looking" (skinny fat), which is why athletes and celebrities exercise their *kitten* off and have trainers to help them with their programs and keep them fit. Tight and toned, if that is your goal (like most athletes and celebrities) requires muscle mass and tone, you won't look bulky as a woman unless you actively try to "bulk up"... its the whole lack of testosterone thing... it's very difficult for women to gain bulky muscle mass.

RunFarLiveHappy

I follow leangains 16/8 meaning I fast 16 hours per day and eat within an 8 hour window per day. I do this religiously M-F, but not necessarily on weekends (just depending on whats going on with my family). I eat between 12pm-8pm. This is the bracket that I've found to work best for me. This way I am up for a few hours and staying busy, then I can eat usually 2 large meals and a snack, then I am not awake for more than 3-4 hours after I've started fasting again. Not eating right before bed has helped me in a lot of ways also. You'll have to find what works for you. IF isn't for everyone. It helps me not to binge knowing that I can eat bigger portions during my meal times.

ETA: You can workout fasted or during your window of eating times. I usually work out fasted in the mornings and then also in the evening after I begin fasting again. You need to eat enough to fuel your body whether you fast or not. I usually eat about 2000 calories per day. (I use TDEE - 20%)

IForlife

Me. I eat between 8pm-11pm.

etoiles_argentees

Not me... pretty much the same as a woman, I don't do paleo -

Protein, Cortisol, and GABA: Why Moderating Protein Reduces Anxiety (and Lengthens Life)

Protein, composed of amino acids, is the building block molecule. For this reason, we usually think of it as constructing our bones, our skin, and our muscles. A lesser-known fact of amino acids, however, is that they are also the building blocks of neurotransmitters. This means that when certain amino acids break down from proteins during digestion, we can experience mood changes and anxiety. Other amino acids can help relieve anxiety, depending on what foods are consumed. Tyrosine uniquely increases dopamine concentrations in the brain, for example. This can have positive effects for people with dopamine deficiencies, but it can hurt people who are already excitable. Another example is Leucine. Leucine increases m-Tor signalling, which is somewhat inflammatory and has been shown in many cases to be associated with aging and poor immune response.

High Protein Diets, Stress and Anxiety in the Short Term
Regardless of the differences in amino acids, higher protein diets correlate with anxiety in both animal and human studies. Here, in one study, researchers set out to show that a high carbohydrate diet would induce more stress than a high protein diet, yet their finding ended up being the opposite: a high protein meal created a greater cortisol response than a high carbohydrate meal in women. Here, high protein diets are shown to decrease testosterone and increase cortisol in men. These studies demonstrate that high protein meals increase stress responses. Moreover, MDs anecdotally report acute anxiety in patients once they start high protein diets. Finally, protein can raise norepinephrine and dopamine levels, both of which are usually high in anxious individuals, and both of which stimulate arousal.

Protein and the neurobiology of GABA
So on the surface the literature on protein intake and mental health is present, but its actually pretty sparse. Certainly, it seems as though cortisol is associated with high protein consumption, especially in the short term. But the amount of data out there is not all that much compared to how much research has been done on fat and carbohydrates. For example: nearly everyone agrees that fluctuating blood sugar is bad for mental health; they also know that tryptophan, a result of carbohydrate metabolism, helps induce feelings of calm and well-being. So these are ways in which carbohydrates have been thoroughly studied. Furthermore, nearly everyone also agrees that fat is excellent for mental health. High fat diets, but not higher protein, nor high carbohydrate, decrease anxiety in rats. So we know a lot about fat, too. What about protein? What we might be able to assert about protein comes not, then, from any epidemiological data, but from neurobiology. What does looking at amino acid chemistry and neurobiology tell us might be going on with protein metabolism?

It all has to do with GABA. For more on GABA neurons in general, refer to this post. In sum: GABA neurons are inhibitory neurons. They tell the brain to be quiet. For people who are depressed and fatigued, therefore, GABA might seem like a problematic molecule, but that’s inaccurate. GABA malfunctioning has been shown to play a role in almost all mood disorders, and in insomnia, and really any kind of imbalance in the brain that might lead to disordered behavior. GABA is strongly associated with well-being, calmness, proper memory function, proper circadian rhythms, and good sleep. GABA, because it inhibits the amygdala, also has been shown to inhibit pain and fear.

Low protein diets enhance GABA production.

One particularly powerful animal study showed the complex relationship between protein restriction and GABA. The researchers were interested in longevity, which is a topic for a whole other slew of posts, but the high GABA activity that manifests as a result of protein restriction applies equally well to mental health. Aging rats, when eating a lower protein diet, saw a long-term elevation of GABA activity. This increased the functioning of the rats’ immune systems as well as prolonged their lives. A high protein diet had the exact opposite effect. Another study found the same effect, except that both young and old rats saw the highest GABA activity on a low protein diet. These studies are conducted over weeks and months and years. What this means is that over time, a lower protein diet is optimal for GABA activity in the brain. This helps with aging, with immune function, and presumably with mood disorders.

The fact of increased GABA activity, along with having the lowest cortisol response to a meal, means that a lower protein diet may be optimal for some people’s mental health. The cortisol response is immediate; the GABA activity, also immediate, but it’s also more important on long time scales. The best way to move forward with this information is to just be cognizant of mood throughout the day. Is heart-rate spiking, or the mind racing, after a high protein meal? On a day with a particularly high protein intake? Try mitigating this by spreading protein intake out throughout the day, instead of eating it all at once. Or try keeping the absolute total to a minimum. Most people recommend .5 g of protein per lean pound of body weight, and I stand by that as well. It’s important both in the hour-by-hour day-to-day, as well as for long term mental health.

Of course, protein is also essential for mental health. I mentioned above that amino acids make up and heavily influence neurotransmitters. This is true. It is only an imbalance that can do real harm. For this reason, the best bet is to eat a sufficient amount of protein, and feel the way forward cautiously, respecting the individuality of each person’s needs.

BarackMeLikeAHurricane

Hi guys! I have been doing research about IF from the past few days, and getting really nice reviews. I am thinking to give it a try! But i have some confusions, like, are we allowed to do our workout while on this challenge? If yes, during the fasted state. Or during your "opening window"? How many calories allowed to take in your opening window? A i going to build muscles if i do this fasting? (Coz i dont want muscles, i just want to lose weight) .. And what happens after you reach your goal weight? Be back to normal, is that so? Looking forward for some replies. Thank you in advance.

I do 20/4, eating from 7pm-11pm. I workout right before I start eating. I'm on 1,200 calories a day. I've lost fat, but more than anything, gained more muscle than what should even be possible for a woman on a constant calorie surplus. If you don't lift you won't gain any muscle but building muscle is one of the main attractions of IF. It's one of the few ways you can easily pack on some mass while in a calorie deficit and losing fat.

fatsnacker

I am still fasting and still losing weight. I am exercising three times a week and sometimes on my low fasting day.

212019156

Its actually harder to gain muscle then it is to lose weight (unless you have very unusual genetics). You won't gain much muscle if your goal is not to gain muscle. I wouldn't even worry about that.