Welcome to Debate Club! Please be aware that this is a space for respectful debate, and that your ideas will be challenged here. Please remember to critique the argument, not the author.
Squat depth
Replies
-
Depends on clients mobility ROM. I'd identify any imbalances and mobility issues in ankles n hips first before just getting people to go ATG.0
-
I pay more attention to my back than to how low I am, bit that said, just below parallel at this point in time.2
-
ATG0
-
I don't lift heavy per se, more moderate and probably very light to some! However, it's totally dependent on the day, how my knees are feeling and how my hips are feeling as I have some issues. I'm also cautious of ATG because I am VERY flexible in the lower back and without a decent mirror can't be sure my form is correct, so if I ATG it's going to be with a lighter weight.
As to stance, former gymnast and dancer, I can squat from ski to sumo parallel to turned out very low. So again, issues with really knowing what my muscles are doing and what is poor form and relying on flexibility! (I mostly can tell but i have an incident with a dance teacher years ago ringing in my ears where i had to consciously think about sitting up straight as I was hyper-extending so I can't always tell by feel as well as I should).1 -
-
I would definitely agree with that. A2G has more to do with flexibility/range of motion than form. If you can hit 90 with great form, it would still be beneficial.1 -
I would definitely agree with that. A2G has more to do with flexibility/range of motion than form. If you can hit 90 with great form, it would still be beneficial.
It's funny to me because the people who told me not to do squats were the fitness advice "experts" on MFP 3 years ago.0 -
I would definitely agree with that. A2G has more to do with flexibility/range of motion than form. If you can hit 90 with great form, it would still be beneficial.
It's funny to me because the people who told me not to do squats were the fitness advice "experts" on MFP 3 years ago.
I think it's worth striving to get A2G, but there is nothing wrong with 90°.0 -
I would definitely agree with that. A2G has more to do with flexibility/range of motion than form. If you can hit 90 with great form, it would still be beneficial.
It's funny to me because the people who told me not to do squats were the fitness advice "experts" on MFP 3 years ago.
Everyone here is learning. I've encountered very few real experts here, though there are a handful. The best I can tell the only reason to go ATG is to get under the bar in a clean for a jerk, or in a snatch. More power to the ones who can do it in a back squat though. The wisdom of doing so though seems to be debated among real experts. And I SAS am not claiming to be one.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I back squat to parallel...I front squat ATG...I front squat more often than I back squat...I also overhead squat ATG.
Are you choosing to only squat to parallel on back squats and ATG on FS and OHS or is a mobility thing with the back squat? I'm hyper mobile (as in my butt can literally touch the ground before I stand up a clean) which is good for my Oly lifts but my coach sometimes has me working on limiting my depth on back squats (still past parallel); it seems to be working to increase strength so I was just wondering if you did this for a specific reason.
0 -
Parallel for me. I have a left knee issue and I literally can't bend it as far as my right. That makes child's pose pretty interesting. I could probably go past parallel, but I think I'm too scared.0
-
I try to got ATG as much as possible, but only with my body weight. My left knee is just FUBAR and squatting with weight would be bad.0
-
A little dip isn't a squat. A squat is ATG. It really is.0
-
MostlyWater wrote: »A little dip isn't a squat. A squat is ATG. It really is.
I don't want to put too fine a point on this, and it seems silly to argue this online, so I'll let you explain that to Donnie Thompson.0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »
I would definitely agree with that. A2G has more to do with flexibility/range of motion than form. If you can hit 90 with great form, it would still be beneficial.
It's funny to me because the people who told me not to do squats were the fitness advice "experts" on MFP 3 years ago.
Everyone here is learning. I've encountered very few real experts here, though there are a handful. The best I can tell the only reason to go ATG is to get under the bar in a clean for a jerk, or in a snatch. More power to the ones who can do it in a back squat though. The wisdom of doing so though seems to be debated among real experts. And I SAS am not claiming to be one.
I put the expert in quotes because those people were the ones everyone went to for lifting advice. I'll keep my squats for checking out snails in the rain.
5 -
Break parallel...works fine for me...0
-
Parallel. I would like to do ATG, but after knee surgery several years back the orthopedic surgeon said due to what they did to my knee, no squats or lunges below parallel. At times I do go below parallel, but usually I follow that advice.0
-
MostlyWater wrote: »A little dip isn't a squat. A squat is ATG. It really is.
@MostlyWater so powerlifters don't squat in your eyes?2 -
This content has been removed.
-
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »
I would definitely agree with that. A2G has more to do with flexibility/range of motion than form. If you can hit 90 with great form, it would still be beneficial.
It's funny to me because the people who told me not to do squats were the fitness advice "experts" on MFP 3 years ago.
Everyone here is learning. I've encountered very few real experts here, though there are a handful. The best I can tell the only reason to go ATG is to get under the bar in a clean for a jerk, or in a snatch. More power to the ones who can do it in a back squat though. The wisdom of doing so though seems to be debated among real experts. And I SAS am not claiming to be one.
I put the expert in quotes because those people were the ones everyone went to for lifting advice. I'll keep my squats for checking out snails in the rain.
You might find this article kind of interesting.0 -
MostlyWater wrote: »A little dip isn't a squat. A squat is ATG. It really is.
Except for the part where you're talking out of your ATG, sure. Most people who go low bar can't ATG it without losing tightness in their lower back.4 -
I will catch hell from this but I think ATG is more ego than anything. Crossfitters talk like they are the only ones who do it as well. In my opinion, parallel is necessary for athletes but few sports put an athlete below that position during sport. As a warmup or stretch, by all means get low.6
-
ATG would be better for athletes because in most physical sports, there are many times you end up on the ground and have to spring back up again. And usually that's a position where their heels are closer to their rears, that further away.I will catch hell from this but I think ATG is more ego than anything. Crossfitters talk like they are the only ones who do it as well. In my opinion, parallel is necessary for athletes but few sports put an athlete below that position during sport. As a warmup or stretch, by all means get low.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
0 -
I think below parallel is fine until someone gains the flexibility and core strength required to ATG. When the butt starts winking below parallel it's better to power back up instead of go ATG with improper spine alignment. I work very heavily with mobility and core bracing for this reason.
This is just my 2 cents.1 -
MostlyWater wrote: »A little dip isn't a squat. A squat is ATG. It really is.
so squatting to parallel is a "little dip"...really?0 -
I just had to try and find some examples.
This is a poor depth squat. This is a "little dip".
She is going parallel. This is a huge difference.
here's an example of dat butt winking
2 -
rainbowbow wrote: »I just had to try and find some examples.
This is a poor depth squat. This is a "little dip".
She is going parallel. This is a huge difference.
here's an example of dat butt winking
I like that one hand on the knee and one hand in the bar move. Is that functional?3 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »I just had to try and find some examples.
This is a poor depth squat. This is a "little dip".
She is going parallel. This is a huge difference.
here's an example of dat butt winking
I like that one hand on the knee and one hand in the bar move. Is that functional?
rofl0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »I just had to try and find some examples.
This is a poor depth squat. This is a "little dip".
She is going parallel. This is a huge difference.
here's an example of dat butt winking
I like that one hand on the knee and one hand in the bar move. Is that functional?
More like desperate to get back up.0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »I just had to try and find some examples.
This is a poor depth squat. This is a "little dip".
She is going parallel. This is a huge difference.
here's an example of dat butt winking
I like that one hand on the knee and one hand in the bar move. Is that functional?
that is a safety procedure....1
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.3K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.2K Health and Weight Loss
- 175.9K Food and Nutrition
- 47.4K Recipes
- 232.5K Fitness and Exercise
- 424 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.5K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.3K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.7K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.1K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions