Should I do LCHF?

cee134

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

Tell that to Lebron James. The flabby/fat James of 2014 went LCHF, and look at him now. But the poor guy. He won't be able to utilize carbs as fuel. Get that man some Italian bread, Fettucine Alfredo, and a slice of cheesecake before he wastes away.

And the notion by remaining slim and fit, and minimizing sugars and grains, increases your risk of Type 2, does not pass the smell test. Being obese and sitting on your rear end all day increases your risk of Type 2 diabetes.

So what is Lebron James' diet? If it is low processed carbs and refined added sugars, than I'm LC too. I get most of my carbs from vegetables.

The smell test works better if you read what I quoted. "Losing your metabolic flexibility can also increase your risk of Type 2 diabetes."

lemurcat12

I believe the weight loss diet James followed was something like 50% fat, 20% carbs. Paleo-style.

GauchoMark

If you choose to do a LCHF variation of some sort, I would probably focus less on how many grams of carbs/fat you eat and more on controlling insulin response.

Not all carbs are "bad"

bradcfairchild

I just went back and read most of the posts in this discussion. Thanks for the question and all the comments. I'm in my second week of drastically lowering carbs and raising fat. Avocado's are my friend, I eat them at least in 2 meals a day. I counted calories, I have been slightly over most day. I'm still figuring things out. But I'm having fun doing it. I'm hungry less of the time than before I started. In fact I feel full too much so I've been eating less the longer I've been on it.

Because of comments in here, I was curious how many carbs I was eating in a day. I have been looking at mostly ratio's. I was surprised to see 55g yesterday. That's probably pretty typical of what I've done in the last couple weeks. I'm having a harder time keeping protein down. This is yesterday 1,780calories, 44 carbs, 135 fat, 101 protein (a 500 calorie deficit). This makes me happy that my calories are coming down. The really cool thing is I'm pretty sure I'm loosing fat. I definitely feel different. Good mostly! I started at 204 and saw 198 a week later. I've seen 198 a few time in the last few years but it's never happened like this. More time will tell, more experimenting will be needed. I can honestly say it's been a lot easier than I thought it would be... so far... I totally love fruit so that has been the hardest to say no to. I do not intend on passing on fruit forever. God made some things too good to say no to. (my peach tree will be ripe in a few more weeks )

BiggDaddy58

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/67-day-diet-lebron-james-143736107.html;_ylt=AwrBT4QnhrxX7oMAjNhXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyOTU1ZmhiBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM0BHZ0aWQDQjE4NzlfMQRzZWMDc3I-

Doesn't sound like this is for most normal people..or anything for any duration in regards to LeBron james.

I love how people post extreme diets and then point to it as if that is the key for everyone.

AlabasterVerve

"He only ate meat, fish, fruits, and vegetables..."

It's a wonder he's still alive eating such an extreme diet. There's no way a normal person could eat that way for any duration...

nvmomketo

cee134 wrote: »

Keto is not effective at keeping weight off and can be counterproductive. Keto is a fad diet.

Studies show that for every person who succeeds on a low carbohydrate regimen, there are three or four more who do not. In fact, the majority of studies indicate that low-carb diets are no more or less effective than other diet approaches.

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/health-fitness/healthy-eating/do-low-carb-diets-work?page=1

Athletes who follow low carb diets for an extended period of time become less able to utilize carbohydrates as fuel. This is usually not to their benefit. Losing your metabolic flexibility can also increase your risk of Type 2 diabetes.

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/health-fitness/trends-fads/carbs-or-fat-which-is-the-bodys-preferred-fuel-source?page=1

"Athletes who follow low carb diets for an extended period of time become less able to utilize carbohydrates as fuel. This is usually not to their benefit. Losing your metabolic flexibility can also increase your risk of Type 2 diabetes"

This is way off. I would consider low carb, and keto diets to be more metabolically flexible. We have a huge source of readily available energy in our fat stores that we can use. Keto'ers will rarely hit the wall because they won't run out of fuel. Their body is primed to use fat as an immediate fuel source whereas those who eat a high carb diet will not be able to access their fat stores with the efficiency that a ketogenic diet will allow (and to a lesser degree, a LCHF diet).

And a higher fat diet is commonly used to TREAT T2D. It does not increase your T2D risk.... Perhaps the confusion there is based on the temporary insulin resistance that would occur when one resumes eating a higher level of carbs?

BiggDaddy58

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

"He only ate meat, fish, fruits, and vegetables..."

It's a wonder he's still alive eating such an extreme diet. There's no way a normal person could eat that way for any duration...

The person who posted this posed it as a low carb diet..because it seems LeBron was flabby and fat..maybe the exaggeration starts there?

The article also states he lowered his calories..lost 20 pounds in 67 days roughly.

The food he ate and most likely his exercise program is not something most normal people can or will do in combination.

I doubt LeBron is sitting in an office somewhere or only working out 20 minutes a day.

Or perhaps YOU do exactly what LeBron does?

AlabasterVerve

Normal people can't eat meat, fish, fruits and vegetables?!

FFS. We need a new normal.

BiggDaddy58

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

Normal people can't eat meat, fish, fruits and vegetables?!

FFS. We need a new normal.

Cherry Pick all you wish (maybe you can only eat cherries?) LeBron is 6'8 and weighed about 270-280 depending.

The poster tried to pass this off as some miracle of LCHF. The truth is ..LeBron lowered his calories and most likely exercises more than people on here..and certainly more than a normal person.

Make fun all you like..cherry pick all you like..I see you ignored the rest of the story..because you chose to.

I get it. That's what many in these forums do. Cherry pick. so it's clear cherries are a huge part of your diet.

At his age, with his exercise programs, and his weight, he could have dropped 20 pounds in 67 days ina number of ways.

The poster attempted to pass this off as some miracle of LCHF and LeBron was flabby and fat before this new miracle.

I see you ignored all that? Must not fit in your box?

BiggDaddy58

http://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-diet-sample-meals-2014-9




But registered dietitians say the diet is too extreme, arguing that eliminating entire food groups to lose weight is both unnecessary and dangerous.

"I would discourage any client, professional athlete or not, from following this low-carb diet," Torey Jones Armul, a registered dietitian, nutritionist, and spokeswoman for the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, told Business Insider. "To lose weight, increase energy levels, and improve performance, your best bet is loading up on fruits and vegetables, choosing whole grains and lean protein and making exercise a habit throughout the week."

"Cutting out entire food groups is extreme and puts people at risk for nutritional deficiencies, not to mention nearly impossible to sustain in the long-term," she said.

Other dietitians we spoke to agreed: there's no reason to voluntarily stop eating entire food groups.

JustinAnimal

MissDeeDee2 wrote: »

I have about 30 lbs I want to lose. I'm motivated to stay on track but I'm the kind of person that loves to snack and I love fruit.

I keep hearing about how successful LCHF diets are. How do you give up fruit? I can give up bread and starchy veggies with no issue but the lack of fruit seems impossible to me.

What do you find works for you? Cutting calories and eating a balance of everything or cutting down on carbs?

Feel free to add me as a friend. I can use motivated positive peeps.

I love this diet, but I don't think I am truly doing it the ketogenic way. I think for keto to work (is there a diff between keto and LCHF?), carbs (including fruit and veggies) should only be 10% of your macro intake. I'm more like 20-25%, but I truly don't give a poopy about eating vegetables. They almost don't count in my book. So the carbs I try to reduce are from starches like sweet potatoes and corn; I do zero grains, not even quinoa (which still feels wrong). I love eating lots of bacon, chicken, steak, pork, fish, and lots of oil in my cooking. I do minimize fruit, but don't freak out if I have an apple, a banana, AND grapes all in one day.

The reason why this works for me is probably different than for others. For me, it's like a challenge to design the diet and stick to it. I got tired of just eating at a deficit, so I guess what I'm saying is that I need a gimmick for this to stick with me. Plus, homemade mayo is the bomb.

ogmomma2012

I LOVE keto eating. Only two slip ups in 23 days? That's a winner in my book! I am an emotional eater and carbs really trigger binges. It's helped lower my cholesterol too!