Exercise calories...
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superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Sweetie, I can't not respond to this. You had crazy high burns during hockey season and weren't properly fueling them. I haven't been paying much attention to my feed since and hope you are eating more and no longer sounding like an exercise bulimic.1 -
Jensylkat5 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »
To get to 1290 calories at lightly active I can only assume you maxed it out and told it 2 pound a week loss which is okay if you are morbidly obese but is extreme if you are just a bit overweight. You might want to consider setting that to 1 pound a week instead.
Thank you so much for your advise. I really don't feel I'm very well educated on this, so any help is truly appreciated.
Just checked and my goal was indeed set at 2 pounds, didn't even know that! So adjusted it down to 1 pound.... My calorie goal jumped up to 1650!! Wow!! How am I going to eat all that?! Haha.
I guess I had the whole "food is my enemy" drilled into me for so long, I'm finding it really hard to readjust. Been having huge issues with binge eating/food addiction lately and now I'm wondering if that is because I simply wasn't giving my body enough and it just drove me to get more and then inadvertently, too much.
I would say there is a very good likelyhood that is exactly what was happening. You can eat enough to be satiated (not hungry) while still being in a slight deficit, the trick is to find where that is and then stick to it. If previously you were eating an amount where you often felt hungry, got dizzy, felt fatigued, exercise just made you immediately tired etc etc you most likely were simply not eating enough. Eat more, but not too much more (1650 seems reasonable) and give it a month. After that month see where you are at in terms of weight loss but not just weight loss also with how you feel. If you only lose a pound but you feel really good and comfortable with your diet, then you can get to your goal for sure just stick with it.
Could give you other tips from my own experience but honestly what you should eat and when to feel satiated and have enough energy is really personal and up to you to figure out.0 -
Jensylkat5 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »
To get to 1290 calories at lightly active I can only assume you maxed it out and told it 2 pound a week loss which is okay if you are morbidly obese but is extreme if you are just a bit overweight. You might want to consider setting that to 1 pound a week instead.
Thank you so much for your advise. I really don't feel I'm very well educated on this, so any help is truly appreciated.
Just checked and my goal was indeed set at 2 pounds, didn't even know that! So adjusted it down to 1 pound.... My calorie goal jumped up to 1650!! Wow!! How am I going to eat all that?! Haha.
I guess I had the whole "food is my enemy" drilled into me for so long, I'm finding it really hard to readjust. Been having huge issues with binge eating/food addiction lately and now I'm wondering if that is because I simply wasn't giving my body enough and it just drove me to get more and then inadvertently, too much.
Yah I figured as much too...
how do you eat all that food...with whatever you want.
The key to being success at weight loss and maintenance is to not give up the foods you want/love/crave.....
If you want that beer fit it in. Pizza have at...even KFC or McDonalds is doable.
If you look at my diary from previous years I ate an entire chocolate bar every night while losing 1lb a week...I love chocolate and wouldn't give it up and when I learned I didn't have too...well new ball game.
Log accurately and consistently...eat back exercise calories 50% until you are confident in them...it really is that easy.
My diary is open as well OP, since I started in July I've been losing a fairly steady 1 pound a week and if you look at my diet you will quickly realize it wasn't at the expense of foods I enjoy.0 -
Personally, I wouldn't eat them back. Some people eat 1/2 their exercise calories, but since this isn't purposeful, I'd leave them.
It seems like every time this question comes up, someone says not to count exercise that is not "purposeful." This is probably going to sound more snarky than I intend; but I don't understand the distinction. Does the body process "purposeful" activity differently?
Consider my admittedly extreme example:
Outside of my other exercise (taekwondo, and bicycling), I generally get about 30,000-35,000 steps in each day. 10-12 K are my morning workout. The other 18 are non-purposeful walking (i.e. walking while thinking through a work problem, covering the mile from the parking garage to wherever I need to be at the office, a lunchtime or after dinner walk etc.....)
I know I am an extreme example; but is the argument that my 18000 non-purposeful steps aren't burning calories? They were certainly reflected in my results when I lost my weight......
As to the OP's question, I would eat back about half at first and monitor the results as burn estimates can be off. (Though mine seem to be pretty much spot on.......)
I think the belief is that you have to raise your heart rate to a cardiovascular zone and then stay there for at least 15 minutes sustained. I think there is some truth to that for improving your cardiovascular fitness but I think people then misattribute that to a notion that therefore somehow it doesn't count unless you are "purposfully" exercising like that.
Walking from your couch to your fridge might not elevate your heartrate to a sustained cardio zone for more than 15 minutes but yeah, it still burns calories. Moving takes energy.1 -
superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Thats just disturbing to me frankly. Now if you ate 3000 calories a day every day and then worked out a lot to balance that out to lose weight or maintain okay, but if you have your goal set to 1000 calories and THEN do that then you are really not in a good state mentally.
You can eat a lot of calories and use exercise to still create a deficit. You can not exercise but lower your food intake to create a defecit. Or you can lower your food intake and exercise but eat back your exercise calories. What you should never do is both lower your intake AND exercise but not add more intake to support that exercise....thats just disorded.4 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Thats just disturbing to me frankly. Now if you ate 3000 calories a day every day and then worked out a lot to balance that out to lose weight or maintain okay, but if you have your goal set to 1000 calories and THEN do that then you are really not in a good state mentally.
You can eat a lot of calories and use exercise to still create a deficit. You can not exercise but lower your food intake to create a defecit. Or you can lower your food intake and exercise but eat back your exercise calories. What you should never do is both lower your intake AND exercise but not add more intake to support that exercise....thats just disorded.
Her calorie goal is currently set to 1055 calories and her fitbit is giving her calories up to 947. She didn't log any food on the 947 day, but back when I checked my feed regularly she chronically under ate. I kept expecting to see her posting from the hospital.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Thats just disturbing to me frankly. Now if you ate 3000 calories a day every day and then worked out a lot to balance that out to lose weight or maintain okay, but if you have your goal set to 1000 calories and THEN do that then you are really not in a good state mentally.
You can eat a lot of calories and use exercise to still create a deficit. You can not exercise but lower your food intake to create a defecit. Or you can lower your food intake and exercise but eat back your exercise calories. What you should never do is both lower your intake AND exercise but not add more intake to support that exercise....thats just disorded.
Her calorie goal is currently set to 1055 calories and her fitbit is giving her calories up to 947. She didn't log any food on the 947 day, but back when I checked my feed regularly she chronically under ate. I kept expecting to see her posting from the hospital.
Don't worry about me.
I've been very lacks on my logging this summer just getting back to logging and exercise thanks to being injured.
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kshama2001 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Thats just disturbing to me frankly. Now if you ate 3000 calories a day every day and then worked out a lot to balance that out to lose weight or maintain okay, but if you have your goal set to 1000 calories and THEN do that then you are really not in a good state mentally.
You can eat a lot of calories and use exercise to still create a deficit. You can not exercise but lower your food intake to create a defecit. Or you can lower your food intake and exercise but eat back your exercise calories. What you should never do is both lower your intake AND exercise but not add more intake to support that exercise....thats just disorded.
Her calorie goal is currently set to 1055 calories and her fitbit is giving her calories up to 947. She didn't log any food on the 947 day, but back when I checked my feed regularly she chronically under ate. I kept expecting to see her posting from the hospital.
Well the OP isn't doing anything that extreme so I think she likely recognizes the issue with that. 1290 and exercising without eating back is just a less mild version of that though.
OP I'd advise you bump up to 1650, try that for a few weeks and when comfortable start also eating your exercise calories back at maybe 60% of what you estimate. You'll still lose weight, you will feel better too.0 -
superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.0 -
Fitbit always overestimated for me, but for some its right on. You can always try it and if you are not losing then start only eating a portion back.0
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superhockeymom wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Thats just disturbing to me frankly. Now if you ate 3000 calories a day every day and then worked out a lot to balance that out to lose weight or maintain okay, but if you have your goal set to 1000 calories and THEN do that then you are really not in a good state mentally.
You can eat a lot of calories and use exercise to still create a deficit. You can not exercise but lower your food intake to create a defecit. Or you can lower your food intake and exercise but eat back your exercise calories. What you should never do is both lower your intake AND exercise but not add more intake to support that exercise....thats just disorded.
Her calorie goal is currently set to 1055 calories and her fitbit is giving her calories up to 947. She didn't log any food on the 947 day, but back when I checked my feed regularly she chronically under ate. I kept expecting to see her posting from the hospital.
Don't worry about me.
I've been very lacks on my logging this summer just getting back to logging and exercise thanks to being injured.
I DO worry about you
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superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
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superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
So you used to eat the calories back from your exercise? Also...are you even overweight? In your profile picture you look thin.0 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
So you used to eat the calories back from your exercise? Also...are you even overweight? In your profile picture you look thin.
I tried eating them back yes
I wouldn't call that thin1 -
superhockeymom wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
So you used to eat the calories back from your exercise? Also...are you even overweight? In your profile picture you look thin.
I tried eating them back yes
I wouldn't call that thin
Tried eating them back for months or just for like 1 week?
Height and weight? 6' tall 172 here.0 -
superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
Many of us don't eat ALL our exercise calories back. It's your position on eating NONE of your exercise calories I find disturbing, especially for someone like you, who runs, walks, is on a hockey league, etc.1 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
So you used to eat the calories back from your exercise? Also...are you even overweight? In your profile picture you look thin.
I tried eating them back yes
I wouldn't call that thin
Tried eating them back for months or just for like 1 week?
Height and weight? 6' tall 172 here.
I'm 5'8". Weight is not important it's how you look0 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
So you used to eat the calories back from your exercise? Also...are you even overweight? In your profile picture you look thin.
I tried eating them back yes
I wouldn't call that thin
Tried eating them back for months or just for like 1 week?
Height and weight? 6' tall 172 here.
At this point, I wouldn't bother. This poster has a history of essentially exercise bulimia and body dysmorphia. Engaging with her isn't going to be productive nor help the OP.3 -
superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
You're moving the goalposts a little bit here from eating back additional calories to ALL the calories, even though your position is really not to eat back any at all. Is it odd to eat back 50% or 75%?
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superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
You're moving the goalposts a little bit here from eating back additional calories to ALL the calories, even though your position is really not to eat back any at all. Is it odd to eat back 50% or 75%?
Not odd if it works for the individual why not give it a try.
Not everyone is the same if we were there would be a perfect way to accomplish our goals and everyone would look incredible, be happy and healthy. Wouldn't that be nice.0 -
superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
You're moving the goalposts a little bit here from eating back additional calories to ALL the calories, even though your position is really not to eat back any at all. Is it odd to eat back 50% or 75%?
Not odd if it works for the individual why not give it a try.
Not everyone is the same if we were there would be a perfect way to accomplish our goals and everyone would look incredible, be happy and healthy. Wouldn't that be nice.
Well here it is in black and white.
You don't log accurately and consistently so you should not be giving advice to the OP at all...and if what is being said is accurate another reason not to give advice on how much to eat back.
MFP is designed and set up to eat back exercise calories, because you don't need to exercise to lose weight. It is setup this way for a few reasons...1. Some people can't exercise and 2. Some don't want to exercise. So if you do exercise then adding them back is using this tool the way you are suppose to.
If you log your food accurately and consistently and eat back some if not all your exercise calories you will lose weight and if you don't you are doing something wrong....either eating more than you think or burning less than you think.
OP again...if you have a tracker you have a few choices.
Set yourself as sedentary , enable negative adjustments and eat them back.
Set yourself as light active, enable negative adjustments and eat them back...
Difference is as lightly active you won't get as many to eat back...2 -
I find that when I eat according to what my fitbit tells me I burn, it's pretty accurate. I don't eat consistently to that number every day, but more aim for a weekly deficit (I just use the summary that fitbit emails me). It's tracked really well with my overall weight loss trend (I use an app to even out weight spikes and dips).0
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superhockeymom wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »superhockeymom wrote: »When I'm actually on track I never eat them back purposeful or not.
I just think adding additional calories is odd. I work out to lose weight.
Do you honestly not know how MFP works? It's just TDEE, but you don't add the exercise to the day until you actually do it.
Yes I do know how it works
I also know if I eat back all the calories it gives me I do not lose weight.
So you used to eat the calories back from your exercise? Also...are you even overweight? In your profile picture you look thin.
I tried eating them back yes
I wouldn't call that thin
Tried eating them back for months or just for like 1 week?
Height and weight? 6' tall 172 here.
I'm 5'8". Weight is not important it's how you look
If weight is not important then why are you trying to lose weight?2 -
I'm 5'8". Weight is not important it's how you look [/quote]
If weight is not important then why are you trying to lose weight?[/quote]
To look better0 -
superhockeymom wrote: »
I'm 5'8". Weight is not important it's how you look
If weight is not important then why are you trying to lose weight?[/quote]
To look better[/quote]
In the long term looks are maximized by a healthy lifestyle.0 -
superhockeymom wrote: »
I'm 5'8". Weight is not important it's how you look
If weight is not important then why are you trying to lose weight?
To look better
So you feel that your weight is relevant to looking better but that weight is not important? Its just confusing to me that you both say weight is not important and yet your focus is on your weight. If weight is not important and you want to look better you should eat above maintenance and lift weights most likely. Put some pounds on, not take them off. To many people here sacrificing their health and their appearance for some unrealistic scale-based goal of looking waif thin.
From your picture, you look thin. You have a thigh gap which is not easy for a woman to accomplish and I'm guessing your refusal to say what you weigh is more about that you realize you aren't overweight on some level.
If you are 5'8'' you probably should weigh about 140 or so at a healthy weight (although that varies). If you are under that you definately don't need to be losing more.0 -
I don't understand why anybody would have and wear a step tracker if they're not willing to use it. Seems like a waste of $100 if you don't believe what it's telling you.1
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Patti, I was wondering if you were lifting weights these days too.0
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there are a lot of things you can do to look better besides losing weight if you are at a decent weight already. some of us will always have problem areas and sometimes there is nothing that can fix them except for plastic surgery. your protein is also way too low. you are Im willing to bet losing lean muscle mass like crazy. thats not enough protein for a toddler most days. netting under 1200 calories is not a good idea for anyone. let alone grossing under 1200 without exercise(excluding those who had WLS or under the care of a Dr)
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kshama2001 wrote: »Patti, I was wondering if you were lifting weights these days too.
Not as much as I should be
Shoulder injury
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