Food scale for liquid?

My food scale has an ml option. I just used it to make a piña colada. I'm wondering if that would be accurate for liquid or if it's basically just spewing the grams number in ml? Seems easier than dirtying a measurement cup

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  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    Other than for pure water (where 1 ml=1 g), it isn't accurate
  • SusanMFindlay
    SusanMFindlay Posts: 1,804 Member
    It's just spewing the number of grams and calling it milliliters. That said, weigh 1 cup once. Then you know the density and can forever more weigh that liquid instead of having to bother with cups.
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    It's no so much that it's inaccurate, but that it's a scam. Only water weighs 1 gram per milliliter (some other liquids too, but never mind), the difference can be large or small, significant or insignificant, but the thing is that weight and volume are two differerent things and you can't measure volume by weighing it.

    Weighing liquids is easier than using measuring cups/spoons, yes, but you need to use values that are based on weight, not on volume.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,327 Member
    My scale has a ml setting for water and for milk, although I cannot find what sort of milk it is for.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    If you want to weigh milk, I suggest using the grams setting and finding the USDA Nutrient Database info like this one:

    https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/180?manu=&fgcd=
  • Sara1791
    Sara1791 Posts: 760 Member
    A pint's a pound the world around but only for water.
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  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    VegetaSKJ wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    If you want to weigh milk, I suggest using the grams setting and finding the USDA Nutrient Database info like this one:

    https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/180?manu=&fgcd=
    No Fairlife or Carbmaster though it seems. A saiyan warrior needs his protein.

    Yeah, I compared this one to 200 mL of 2% Fairlife, which weighed in at 199 grams and found the following:

    Prorated Fairlife:
    100 calories
    3.75 g fat
    5 g carb
    10.83 g protein

    USDA protein fortified 2%
    111 calories
    3.94 fat
    10.93 carb
    7.86 protein
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    1% milk has a density so close to 1 the difference is negligible. You can always weigh liquids, just divide by the density to get the amount in mL. (g / g/mL = mL)

    If the density rounds to 1.00 (in the second decimal) I just logged it as 1:1.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    1% milk has a density so close to 1 the difference is negligible. You can always weigh liquids, just divide by the density to get the amount in mL. (g / g/mL = mL)

    If the density rounds to 1.00 (in the second decimal) I just logged it as 1:1.

    The key is finding the density. Many US food labels do not have grams for liquids. And if you already have to measure out 100 mL to find out how many grams it weighs, you might as well just use the mL (or ounces, the US norm) to figure out your calories.

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  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    daniip_la wrote: »
    I was teaching a general chemistry class and just saw this thread. I missed the chance to explain density. I feel cheated.

    Have we passed or failed?
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    daniip_la wrote: »
    I was teaching a general chemistry class and just saw this thread. I missed the chance to explain density. I feel cheated.

    Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm a chemist who works in an environmental testing laboratory... ;)
    jemhh wrote: »
    sarahthes wrote: »
    1% milk has a density so close to 1 the difference is negligible. You can always weigh liquids, just divide by the density to get the amount in mL. (g / g/mL = mL)

    If the density rounds to 1.00 (in the second decimal) I just logged it as 1:1.

    The key is finding the density. Many US food labels do not have grams for liquids. And if you already have to measure out 100 mL to find out how many grams it weighs, you might as well just use the mL (or ounces, the US norm) to figure out your calories.

    uuu4e3vidd2u.jpg

    True enough, but then again the only caloric liquid I consumed in volumes greater than 1-2 tbsp was milk anyway. And that is easily available ;). Although one can calculate density easily enough and create a cheat sheet for frequently used foods. I did that for ice cream at one point.
  • daniip_la
    daniip_la Posts: 678 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    daniip_la wrote: »
    I was teaching a general chemistry class and just saw this thread. I missed the chance to explain density. I feel cheated.

    Have we passed or failed?

    I haven't seen anyone mention using a graduated cylinder or pipette to get the accurate volume before weighing. So I'm on the fence.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    edited September 2016
    Pour some mercury in there...that'll show it who's boss.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    daniip_la wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    daniip_la wrote: »
    I was teaching a general chemistry class and just saw this thread. I missed the chance to explain density. I feel cheated.

    Have we passed or failed?

    I haven't seen anyone mention using a graduated cylinder or pipette to get the accurate volume before weighing. So I'm on the fence.

    They only count if they're either Class A TD or calibrated to be traceable to NIST...
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    daniip_la wrote: »
    I was teaching a general chemistry class and just saw this thread. I missed the chance to explain density. I feel cheated.

    Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm a chemist who works in an environmental testing laboratory... ;)
    jemhh wrote: »
    sarahthes wrote: »
    1% milk has a density so close to 1 the difference is negligible. You can always weigh liquids, just divide by the density to get the amount in mL. (g / g/mL = mL)

    If the density rounds to 1.00 (in the second decimal) I just logged it as 1:1.

    The key is finding the density. Many US food labels do not have grams for liquids. And if you already have to measure out 100 mL to find out how many grams it weighs, you might as well just use the mL (or ounces, the US norm) to figure out your calories.

    uuu4e3vidd2u.jpg

    True enough, but then again the only caloric liquid I consumed in volumes greater than 1-2 tbsp was milk anyway. And that is easily available ;). Although one can calculate density easily enough and create a cheat sheet for frequently used foods. I did that for ice cream at one point.

    Yeah, I'm about the same when it comes to limiting the types of caloric liquids I ingest. I like your ice cream cheat sheet :)
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    daniip_la wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    daniip_la wrote: »
    I was teaching a general chemistry class and just saw this thread. I missed the chance to explain density. I feel cheated.

    Have we passed or failed?

    I haven't seen anyone mention using a graduated cylinder or pipette to get the accurate volume before weighing. So I'm on the fence.

    Ha!

    I have to confess that chemistry is the one class I dropped in high school because it left me completely stymied and I was failing miserably. My teacher told me "I have no idea what is going on but you just don't get it." It's the only thing that kept me from an honors diploma :angry: When I got to college I took physics because it seemed easier. (Then I roomed with pharmacy majors and heard all about their organic chem woes.)
  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    I always thought it was permissible to use cups for liquid measuring.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,224 Member
    gothchiq wrote: »
    I always thought it was permissible to use cups for liquid measuring.

    I believe that's the most accurate way
  • ummijaaz560
    ummijaaz560 Posts: 228 Member
    I have measuring cups that are labeled 1cup but one will only hold 238 ml of water vs 240 ml of water, what gives?
  • SusanMFindlay
    SusanMFindlay Posts: 1,804 Member
    daniip_la wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    daniip_la wrote: »
    I was teaching a general chemistry class and just saw this thread. I missed the chance to explain density. I feel cheated.

    Have we passed or failed?

    I haven't seen anyone mention using a graduated cylinder or pipette to get the accurate volume before weighing. So I'm on the fence.

    I prefer volumetric flasks. :smile:
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  • SusanMFindlay
    SusanMFindlay Posts: 1,804 Member
    gothchiq wrote: »
    I always thought it was permissible to use cups for liquid measuring.

    I believe that's the most accurate way

    It's no more or less accurate if you know the density. But it usually involves less math.
  • pebble4321
    pebble4321 Posts: 1,132 Member
    I have measuring cups that are labeled 1cup but one will only hold 238 ml of water vs 240 ml of water, what gives?

    Pretty sure that's a US measure, where a cup is 8oz (though I could have that wrong, I don't do ounces well). In Australia a standard cup measure is 250ml.
    It's really better to go by ml than cups as you will be getting a more accurate measure.
    Unless you are following a recipe that states something like "this recipe uses standard Australian measurments, 1 cup =250ml".

    Hmm, some quite good stuff on here in both metric and imperial: http://www.taste.com.au/how+to/articles/369/weights+measurement+charts/#convers