Ketogenic Diet?

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Alatariel75

nutmeg2576 wrote: »

Have any of you tried a ketogenic/ketosis diet? I've heard mixed reviews, but it was suggested that it may be helpful for neuropathy and MS. Still doing research, but wanted to see if anyone else has had any success with it?

There is no study out there which shows that Keto does anything for MS. It's just another disorder that has been claimed can be treated by this allegedly magical diet. To the contrary, the dietary MS treatment studies, which not concluding that any way of eating can effectively treat MS, show that a high fat diet can be detrimental to MS sufferers.

This f'ing keto cure for every disease known to man claim really chaps my *kitten*.

Ugh, zombie post. My point still stands.

theresejesu

Alatariel75 wrote: »

nutmeg2576 wrote: »

Have any of you tried a ketogenic/ketosis diet? I've heard mixed reviews, but it was suggested that it may be helpful for neuropathy and MS. Still doing research, but wanted to see if anyone else has had any success with it?

There is no study out there which shows that Keto does anything for MS. It's just another disorder that has been claimed can be treated by this allegedly magical diet. To the contrary, the dietary MS treatment studies, which not concluding that any way of eating can effectively treat MS, show that a high fat diet can be detrimental to MS sufferers.

This f'ing keto cure for every disease known to man claim really chaps my *kitten*.

Ugh, zombie post. My point still stands.

There isn't anything magical about it. It's basic physiology and biochemistry.
* Mitochondria can use ketones for fuel.
* It is easier for mitochondria to use ketones for fuel than glucose.
* Current research into life extension and longevity concludes that all aging and all disease has, at its root, mitichondrial dysfunction. In fact, they have started labeling aging as a disease that is reversible. - in fact Dr Sinclair announced earlier this year that his research into reversing aging has resulted in a pill that was about to enter human clinical trials at that time, and seeking FDA approval, and plans to have this pill on the shelves in three years. What does this pill do? REVERSE AGING.
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If all disease and aging is fundamentally the result of mitochondrial dysfunction, and shifting to ketones for fuel helps the mitochondria function better by taxing them less, then the common sense and logical conclusion would be of course it should be able to help MS.

People should not be discouraged from using their brain and putting two and two together simply because no one has done a particular study.

I have seen in my own life the reality of the age reversing results of Dr Sinclair's research using the precursor to the substance he uses in his research. Nicotinamide Riboside is the precursor to NMN used by Dr Sinclair, and has been available under the name Niagen for several years and has undergone human clinical trials to see if it would increase NAD+ as well (that was the goal of his initial research in 2013, as increasing NAD+ sufficiently would then increase mitochondrial effectiveness to youthful levels). It raised NAD+ significantly.

What have I seen? Before I started taking Niagen August of 2015, I was showing several signs of early aging. In the previous years, my cheeks had lost their elasticity, they had become stiff. If you tried to pinch my cheeks, it was like trying to pinch the tight upholstery of a chair. Not happening. The back of my hands had become like that of an old woman, the skin becoming translucent, papery, thin, shiny. I knew this was not good.

I started taking Niagen in August 2 years ago to help with my energy. The effect in that area was phenomenal. I also hoped it would help these advanced signs of aging. 4 months into this, one of my daughters got married. Without the Niagen it would have been impossible to go non-stop from 6am to midnight. I think I took 2000mg that day. I remember sitting at the table during the reception feeling my cheeks in hope there was some change, but nothing. I was still very thankful I had my life back.

The next month I was sitting in my recliner and I absently squeezed my check and stopped in shock..my cheeks were soft and supple, and the back of my hands looked decades younger. I couldn't stop squeezing my cheeks. This was amazing.

So I have seen this for myself. My experiences fit what these researchers are saying, and I've looked into the research going on in this field for myself. I encourage others to do so as well, for cellular health is the future.

If a ketogenic diet can help the mitochondria function better, which I am seeing for myself right now as my Reliance on Niagen started decreasing dramatically as soon as I started the keto diet, (my reliance on which up to that point had been very constant for 2 years to the tune of 1000mg or more a day), then why shouldn't it help something like MS?