Gaining on 1400 kcals
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KwonJiYong69
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The last 3 months I've been eating 1400 -1600 calories and my weights gone up 3.5kg. Mfp says I should be able to eat 1480 if I dont excercise but I'm pretty active, I walk 10 miles usually twice a week, I do outward bound stuff (canoeing, mountain biking) about once a week. And its not just muscle eeight. My waist has gone up 2 inches and the top of my thighs have got notcibly more fatty. Can someone help? I really don't understand what's going on with my body and why its storing fat
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Are you weighing your food that you consume using a food scale by chance? And is the extra 120 calories (difference between 1600-1480) from exercise?
Right off hand, gaining weight means you are eating too much and not losing because you are not sticking to a calorie deficit.10 -
How are you determining your calories consumed? Do you use a food scale to weigh out your food? Are the database items that you use to determine calories for often eaten items accurate? (These are user submitted and can be inaccurate). It doesn't sound like you are counting exercise calories, but if you are, do you eat back the calories you burned from exercise? (Many fitness trackers, computers and database entries for exercise can grossly overstate calories burned).
Look through your routine and see if maybe there are food items you consume often that do not get logged.
tl;dr - If you are gaining unwanted weight/size it is likely because you are consuming more calories than you intend.3 -
Do you weigh everything you put in your mouth, or do you just go by serving size and eyeball the portion sizes? If the last part is true then there lies your problem - you're probably eating more than you think.4
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May we ask how tall you are and how much you weigh? Maybe you are trying to maintain an unrealistic weight.2
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Hi! What has happened to you happened to me too. And it took me literally decades to work out what's going on.
Now I know I've found its easy to deal with.
As I'm sure you know that in order to lose weight calories in must always be less than energy expended. As you might not know, when you go on a diet your metabolism slowly adjusts down to accommodate the reduced calories. That can happen regardless of the number of times you go to the gym or the minute quantity of food you put in your mouth. It's imperceptible. Perhaps you are sleeping a bit longer, licking the spoon when you measure out exact quantities. Seemingly tiny things make a difference.
Though it might be hard to believe, you've reached your maintenance calories for the energy you use at the moment. MFP figures come from 'normal' people not people in the middle of a diet. You've just proved conclusively that they don't relate to you now.
As its been three months you have no option but to start again. I'd recommend a MUCH lower calorie intake to start off with and go for 30minute bouts of exercise EVERY day, rather than a big hit once or twice a week.
The good news is that you have got used to calorie counting, recording weight and activity monitoring. The three essentials of slimming! If you get into a good regime then you'll find your activity levels will rise as you increase calorie intake up to maintenance. Unless you are shortish you'll find that you'll be able to eat more further down the line.
Happy to friend and give more advice privately.
Good luck!
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Vegplotter wrote: »Hi! What has happened to you happened to me too. And it took me literally decades to work out what's going on.
Now I know I've found its easy to deal with.
As I'm sure you know that in order to lose weight calories in must always be less than energy expended. As you might not know, when you go on a diet your metabolism slowly adjusts down to accommodate the reduced calories. That can happen regardless of the number of times you go to the gym or the minute quantity of food you put in your mouth. It's imperceptible. Perhaps you are sleeping a bit longer, licking the spoon when you measure out exact quantities. Seemingly tiny things make a difference.
Though it might be hard to believe, you've reached your maintenance calories for the energy you use at the moment. MFP figures come from 'normal' people not people in the middle of a diet. You've just proved conclusively that they don't relate to you now.
As its been three months you have no option but to start again. I'd recommend a MUCH lower calorie intake to start off with and go for 30minute bouts of exercise EVERY day, rather than a big hit once or twice a week.
The good news is that you have got used to calorie counting, recording weight and activity monitoring. The three essentials of slimming! If you get into a good regime then you'll find your activity levels will rise as you increase calorie intake up to maintenance. Unless you are shortish you'll find that you'll be able to eat more further down the line.
Happy to friend and give more advice privately.
Good luck!
She's gaining weight, not maintaining.. and mentioning metabolic issues is not practical in this case.
What is on point is she needs to eat less.
Perhaps OP will come back to the thread and tell us if she is using a food scale to log her intake, and also how she handles her exercise calories, etc..1 -
Have you heard of Secret Eaters? This is a show where people have the same compliant you do, they keep gaining weight despite eating at a calorie deficit. The show places video cameras in their home and hire private investigators to figure out what is going on. Every episode has found the same thing. People are consistently underestimating how much they are really eating. Here is a link to the first episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYJrC3RTtgQ 13 -
Have you heard of Secret Eaters? This is a show where people have the same compliant you do, they keep gaining weight despite eating at a calorie deficit. The show places video cameras in their home and hire private investigators to figure out what is going on. Every episode has found the same thing. People are consistently underestimating how much they are really eating. Here is a link to the first episode:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYJrC3RTtgQ
I feel like this applies to almost every thread where posters say they can't lose weight.14 -
Are you weighing your food that you consume using a food scale by chance? And is the extra 120 calories (difference between 1600-1480) from exercise?
Right off hand, gaining weight means you are eating too much and not losing because you are not sticking to a calorie deficit.
I weigh everything and/or the food I eat has calories as a portion ( like 1 bread roll is 190 cals or whatever) Yes I onky eat over 1400 when I have excercised but I will onky eat 1/3 calories back. Like I have to have burned over 400 or I wont let myself. I am very very cautious about food and I know for sure I am not over eating ( I used to have ednos so tbf I know way to much about what calories are in what anyway)0 -
Have you heard of Secret Eaters? This is a show where people have the same compliant you do, they keep gaining weight despite eating at a calorie deficit. The show places video cameras in their home and hire private investigators to figure out what is going on. Every episode has found the same thing. People are consistently underestimating how much they are really eating. Here is a link to the first episode:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYJrC3RTtgQ
Trust me, I log EVERYTHING. I know EVERYTHING that I consume. If its food where id have to guess I will skip it and wait until I can make food or buy food that I know the calories of. Im not a so called "secret eater" haha.0 -
Vegplotter wrote: »Hi! What has happened to you happened to me too. And it took me literally decades to work out what's going on.
Now I know I've found its easy to deal with.
As I'm sure you know that in order to lose weight calories in must always be less than energy expended. As you might not know, when you go on a diet your metabolism slowly adjusts down to accommodate the reduced calories. That can happen regardless of the number of times you go to the gym or the minute quantity of food you put in your mouth. It's imperceptible. Perhaps you are sleeping a bit longer, licking the spoon when you measure out exact quantities. Seemingly tiny things make a difference.
Though it might be hard to believe, you've reached your maintenance calories for the energy you use at the moment. MFP figures come from 'normal' people not people in the middle of a diet. You've just proved conclusively that they don't relate to you now.
As its been three months you have no option but to start again. I'd recommend a MUCH lower calorie intake to start off with and go for 30minute bouts of exercise EVERY day, rather than a big hit once or twice a week.
The good news is that you have got used to calorie counting, recording weight and activity monitoring. The three essentials of slimming! If you get into a good regime then you'll find your activity levels will rise as you increase calorie intake up to maintenance. Unless you are shortish you'll find that you'll be able to eat more further down the line.
Happy to friend and give more advice privately.
Good luck!
I really get what you're saying but this is my calorie needs for my height and my old weight. So if anything im eating less than i need bc ive still got it set for maintaining 3kg lighter1 -
elisa123gal wrote: »May we ask how tall you are and how much you weigh? Maybe you are trying to maintain an unrealistic weight.
Im only 5'1 but I'm 49.3kg rn. I have a small bone frame also.0 -
KwonJiYong69 wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »May we ask how tall you are and how much you weigh? Maybe you are trying to maintain an unrealistic weight.
Im only 5'1 but I'm 49.3kg rn. I have a small bone frame also.
BMR is approx 1209.. and TDEE is approx 1450.. I ran your stats using this calculator.. I usually run it on more than one, but this one has 2 that does not require body fat %
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
You are gaining because if your TDEE is really 1450 (I ran this as "desk job, sedentary) as I do not know your TRUE activity level that does not include Exercise..
SO as a really small person, short in stature and your weight at 108 pounds, you are currently eating around maintenance. On exercise days, you are eating those back, hense weight gain. And if you account for a margin of error in logging calories and calorie burns in exercise, I can easily see weight gain in your case.
The exercise you do, can easily not be burning as many calories as you think, especially if you have become adapted to doing the same exercise regime for a long period of time.10 -
KwonJiYong69 wrote: »Are you weighing your food that you consume using a food scale by chance? And is the extra 120 calories (difference between 1600-1480) from exercise?
Right off hand, gaining weight means you are eating too much and not losing because you are not sticking to a calorie deficit.
I weigh everything and/or the food I eat has calories as a portion ( like 1 bread roll is 190 cals or whatever) Yes I onky eat over 1400 when I have excercised but I will onky eat 1/3 calories back. Like I have to have burned over 400 or I wont let myself. I am very very cautious about food and I know for sure I am not over eating ( I used to have ednos so tbf I know way to much about what calories are in what anyway)
You should be weighing the bread too - even if the label says "1 roll = 190 calories".
Last weekend, I bought a loaf of sourdough bread that said 2 slices = 50 g = 130 calories. I weighed a slice. In reality, 1 slice = 55 g = 143 calories. If I'd blindly eaten 2 slices without weighing, I would have been eating 286 calories instead of the 130 that the label says. That's a difference of 156 calories just for one "serving" of bread!6 -
KwonJiYong69 wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »May we ask how tall you are and how much you weigh? Maybe you are trying to maintain an unrealistic weight.
Im only 5'1 but I'm 49.3kg rn. I have a small bone frame also.
BMR is approx 1209.. and TDEE is approx 1450.. I ran your stats using this calculator.. I usually run it on more than one, but this one has 2 that does not require body fat %
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
You are gaining because if your TDEE is really 1450 (I ran this as "desk job, sedentary) as I do not know your TRUE activity level that does not include Exercise..
SO as a really small person, short in stature and your weight at 108 pounds, you are currently eating around maintenance. On exercise days, you are eating those back, hense weight gain.
The exercise you do, can easily not be burning as many calories as you think, especially if you have become adapted to doing the same exercise regime for a long period of time.
So basically im gunna have to live off a starvation about of calories bc exercise doesnt mean *kitten*...thats my life ruined1 -
SusanMFindlay wrote: »KwonJiYong69 wrote: »Are you weighing your food that you consume using a food scale by chance? And is the extra 120 calories (difference between 1600-1480) from exercise?
Right off hand, gaining weight means you are eating too much and not losing because you are not sticking to a calorie deficit.
I weigh everything and/or the food I eat has calories as a portion ( like 1 bread roll is 190 cals or whatever) Yes I onky eat over 1400 when I have excercised but I will onky eat 1/3 calories back. Like I have to have burned over 400 or I wont let myself. I am very very cautious about food and I know for sure I am not over eating ( I used to have ednos so tbf I know way to much about what calories are in what anyway)
You should be weighing the bread too - even if the label says "1 roll = 190 calories".
Last weekend, I bought a loaf of sourdough bread that said 2 slices = 50 g = 130 calories. I weighed a slice. In reality, 1 slice = 55 g = 143 calories. If I'd blindly eaten 2 slices without weighing, I would have been eating 286 calories instead of the 130 that the label says. That's a difference of 156 calories just for one "serving" of bread!
Thats going to be so hard to do oml but thank you! I didnt know they varied so much. I'm going to end up beinging some scales everywhere I swear haha0 -
SusanMFindlay wrote: »KwonJiYong69 wrote: »Are you weighing your food that you consume using a food scale by chance? And is the extra 120 calories (difference between 1600-1480) from exercise?
Right off hand, gaining weight means you are eating too much and not losing because you are not sticking to a calorie deficit.
I weigh everything and/or the food I eat has calories as a portion ( like 1 bread roll is 190 cals or whatever) Yes I onky eat over 1400 when I have excercised but I will onky eat 1/3 calories back. Like I have to have burned over 400 or I wont let myself. I am very very cautious about food and I know for sure I am not over eating ( I used to have ednos so tbf I know way to much about what calories are in what anyway)
You should be weighing the bread too - even if the label says "1 roll = 190 calories".
Last weekend, I bought a loaf of sourdough bread that said 2 slices = 50 g = 130 calories. I weighed a slice. In reality, 1 slice = 55 g = 143 calories. If I'd blindly eaten 2 slices without weighing, I would have been eating 286 calories instead of the 130 that the label says. That's a difference of 156 calories just for one "serving" of bread!
The end of that was supposed to say thank you so mucj for helping me out, I really appreciate it but it didnt seem to post it properly. .0 -
KwonJiYong69 wrote: »KwonJiYong69 wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »May we ask how tall you are and how much you weigh? Maybe you are trying to maintain an unrealistic weight.
Im only 5'1 but I'm 49.3kg rn. I have a small bone frame also.
BMR is approx 1209.. and TDEE is approx 1450.. I ran your stats using this calculator.. I usually run it on more than one, but this one has 2 that does not require body fat %
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
You are gaining because if your TDEE is really 1450 (I ran this as "desk job, sedentary) as I do not know your TRUE activity level that does not include Exercise..
SO as a really small person, short in stature and your weight at 108 pounds, you are currently eating around maintenance. On exercise days, you are eating those back, hense weight gain.
The exercise you do, can easily not be burning as many calories as you think, especially if you have become adapted to doing the same exercise regime for a long period of time.
So basically im gunna have to live off a starvation about of calories bc exercise doesnt mean *kitten*...thats my life ruined
Oh my gosh.. you took that the wrong way... Your life is not ruined.. Did I make you think that really??
You just need to change some things.. Increase your exercise volume and intensity, change the routine all together, but change it. Also just move around in general that is not exercise.
Your logging and accuracy is more important than ever to the very minimal gram.
You can decrease your calories say to 1300 and change the exercise and you will be fine. You will lose slower, but unfortunately this is the hand we are dealt. I am short in stature, older and when I have to lose weight my deficit is tiny too off being sendetary.. But I can change that and so can you.. Its not a death sentence.. I promise..
You are already very very tiny.. not sure why the need to lose more..8 -
KwonJiYong69 wrote: »KwonJiYong69 wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »May we ask how tall you are and how much you weigh? Maybe you are trying to maintain an unrealistic weight.
Im only 5'1 but I'm 49.3kg rn. I have a small bone frame also.
BMR is approx 1209.. and TDEE is approx 1450.. I ran your stats using this calculator.. I usually run it on more than one, but this one has 2 that does not require body fat %
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
You are gaining because if your TDEE is really 1450 (I ran this as "desk job, sedentary) as I do not know your TRUE activity level that does not include Exercise..
SO as a really small person, short in stature and your weight at 108 pounds, you are currently eating around maintenance. On exercise days, you are eating those back, hense weight gain.
The exercise you do, can easily not be burning as many calories as you think, especially if you have become adapted to doing the same exercise regime for a long period of time.
So basically im gunna have to live off a starvation about of calories bc exercise doesnt mean *kitten*...thats my life ruined
Oh my gosh.. you took that the wrong way... Your life is not ruined.. Did I make you think that really??
You just need to change some things.. Increase your exercise volume and intensity, change the routine all together, but change it. Also just move around in general that is not exercise.
You can decrease your calories say to 1300 and change the exercise and you will be fine. You will lose slower, but unfortunately this is the hand we are dealt. I am short in stature, older and when I have to lose weight my deficit is tiny too off being sendetary.. But I can change that and so can you.. Its not a death sentence.. I promise..
You are already very very tiny.. not sure why the need to lose more..
I'm honestly so bad at using this app._. I sent a reply to the wrong person bc the end of my reply to you was supposed to say thank you for helping me so much and I really appreicate ir but it didnt post. But yeah... maybe ill try 1300 calories and see if I can loose some. Or atleast the 3kg I gained!!0 -
KwonJiYong69 wrote: »KwonJiYong69 wrote: »KwonJiYong69 wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »May we ask how tall you are and how much you weigh? Maybe you are trying to maintain an unrealistic weight.
Im only 5'1 but I'm 49.3kg rn. I have a small bone frame also.
BMR is approx 1209.. and TDEE is approx 1450.. I ran your stats using this calculator.. I usually run it on more than one, but this one has 2 that does not require body fat %
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
You are gaining because if your TDEE is really 1450 (I ran this as "desk job, sedentary) as I do not know your TRUE activity level that does not include Exercise..
SO as a really small person, short in stature and your weight at 108 pounds, you are currently eating around maintenance. On exercise days, you are eating those back, hense weight gain.
The exercise you do, can easily not be burning as many calories as you think, especially if you have become adapted to doing the same exercise regime for a long period of time.
So basically im gunna have to live off a starvation about of calories bc exercise doesnt mean *kitten*...thats my life ruined
Oh my gosh.. you took that the wrong way... Your life is not ruined.. Did I make you think that really??
You just need to change some things.. Increase your exercise volume and intensity, change the routine all together, but change it. Also just move around in general that is not exercise.
You can decrease your calories say to 1300 and change the exercise and you will be fine. You will lose slower, but unfortunately this is the hand we are dealt. I am short in stature, older and when I have to lose weight my deficit is tiny too off being sendetary.. But I can change that and so can you.. Its not a death sentence.. I promise..
You are already very very tiny.. not sure why the need to lose more..
I'm honestly so bad at using this app._. I sent a reply to the wrong person bc the end of my reply to you was supposed to say thank you for helping me so much and I really appreicate ir but it didnt post. But yeah... maybe ill try 1300 calories and see if I can loose some. Or atleast the 3kg I gained!!
You are most welcome.. change your exercise a bit too and move around more to increase your non exercise activity it will be a huge help in your case. And what I mean is take the stairs, park far away from door entrances, walk the long path to the bathroom at home, do something while watching tv, go for a short 10 minute walk at home, etc..2
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