Afraid of natural sugars

Aaron_K123

So how do you propose we all keep our blood sugar and appropriate levels throughout the day without...you know...sugar?

Carlos_421

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

Skyblueyellow wrote: »

Ugh.

Always so much hate for the carbs.

Listen, I'm a Type II diabetic. I unfortunately had Gestational Diabetes with all of my pregnancies and ended up progressing to Type II after my last son was born. I LOVE carbs. Yum. Sadly I DO have to watch my carb intake, but I still have all of the things that I love, just less of them. And yes, I've swapped higher sugar fruits (like grapes) for lower sugar fruits (like berries) regularly because I can have more and feel more satisfied. I go over my carb and sugar goals from time to time and you know what, as long as my blood sugar readings are where they need to be I don't let that bother me.

I guess my thing is that carbs aren't the enemy. Even for diabetics. Food is neither good nor bad, it is more about the quantities in which we consume them and staying within our own macro and calorie goals.

So enjoy that banana and your glass of milk! I personally do not like milk as a stand-alone beverage (never have!) but I will go for a banana every so often. I find them quite filling and they give me lots of energy. They are great pre/post workout snacks!

Unless you are taking pills and/or insulin, how can your blood sugars be where they need to be? If that's the case, do you want to take pills and insulin for the rest of your life?

I'd say it beats having their glucose levels be out of control...

gonetothedogs19

Carlos_421 wrote: »

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

Skyblueyellow wrote: »

Ugh.

Always so much hate for the carbs.

Listen, I'm a Type II diabetic. I unfortunately had Gestational Diabetes with all of my pregnancies and ended up progressing to Type II after my last son was born. I LOVE carbs. Yum. Sadly I DO have to watch my carb intake, but I still have all of the things that I love, just less of them. And yes, I've swapped higher sugar fruits (like grapes) for lower sugar fruits (like berries) regularly because I can have more and feel more satisfied. I go over my carb and sugar goals from time to time and you know what, as long as my blood sugar readings are where they need to be I don't let that bother me.

I guess my thing is that carbs aren't the enemy. Even for diabetics. Food is neither good nor bad, it is more about the quantities in which we consume them and staying within our own macro and calorie goals.

So enjoy that banana and your glass of milk! I personally do not like milk as a stand-alone beverage (never have!) but I will go for a banana every so often. I find them quite filling and they give me lots of energy. They are great pre/post workout snacks!

Unless you are taking pills and/or insulin, how can your blood sugars be where they need to be? If that's the case, do you want to take pills and insulin for the rest of your life?

I'd say it beats having their glucose levels be out of control...

Well you could refrain from eating sugars and grains for whatever time period is necessary, reduce your insulin and medication, and live drug and insulin free.

stevencloser

lemurcat12 wrote: »

I don't think Lustig is a scam artist, and I similarly don't think Esselstyn and Campbell are. I think that people (including scientists) are human, and when you get invested in a theory sometimes it makes you biased somewhat, because you end up with so much ego riding on the success of that theory or you just believe you are right and it matters so much. (I am much more negative and skeptical about Taubes, who has said some remarkably silly things.)

Denise Minger's discussion of the history of low fat and the successes achieved cast light on why the supporters tend to be so excited about it: https://rawfoodsos.com/2015/10/06/in-defense-of-low-fat-a-call-for-some-evolution-of-thought-part-1/ -- the results are promising. I think the same thing happened with some of those experimenting with low carb or low sugar diets. (I also think the correlation studies show that for whatever reason -- and I think other nutritional failings or lifestyle issues may well be part of it -- both high sat fat and high sugar are problems, whereas high fruit and veg tends to have positive correlations with health, despite the sugar in them.) Lustig tried to focus on sugar as a cause in and of itself (vs. calories) with that study where he switched kids to starches, but that was not successful IMO because he was unable to control for calories. I do think this is evidence that higher added sugar in an uncontrolled diet (and most are long-term) tends to result in more calories.

Lustig also said some far-out stuff with no basis in reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7QXFJNKWXs

lemurcat12

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

Skyblueyellow wrote: »

Ugh.

Always so much hate for the carbs.

Listen, I'm a Type II diabetic. I unfortunately had Gestational Diabetes with all of my pregnancies and ended up progressing to Type II after my last son was born. I LOVE carbs. Yum. Sadly I DO have to watch my carb intake, but I still have all of the things that I love, just less of them. And yes, I've swapped higher sugar fruits (like grapes) for lower sugar fruits (like berries) regularly because I can have more and feel more satisfied. I go over my carb and sugar goals from time to time and you know what, as long as my blood sugar readings are where they need to be I don't let that bother me.

I guess my thing is that carbs aren't the enemy. Even for diabetics. Food is neither good nor bad, it is more about the quantities in which we consume them and staying within our own macro and calorie goals.

So enjoy that banana and your glass of milk! I personally do not like milk as a stand-alone beverage (never have!) but I will go for a banana every so often. I find them quite filling and they give me lots of energy. They are great pre/post workout snacks!

Unless you are taking pills and/or insulin, how can your blood sugars be where they need to be? If that's the case, do you want to take pills and insulin for the rest of your life?

Lots of people control their T2 with diet, not pills/insulin. And that doesn't require low carbing, although some do that successfully, of course.