What is 8 10 1

riches41

Can anyone explain what 3 sets of 8 10 1 are?

middlehaitch

What programme?
As reading your question leads me to thinking.
3sets
Set 1, 8 reps
Set 2, 10 reps
Set 3, 1 rep.

Cheers, h.

GauchoMark

yeah, given the context, what @middlehaitch said is correct. I have never heard of an 8, 10, 1 program specifically, though. It seems a little odd. The only way it kind of makes sense would be to do warmup sets, then do a set of 8 at about 75% 1RM, a set of 10 at about 75% 1RM, then the last set of 1 at 100% 1RM. However, aside from competitive powerlifters during competitions, most people try not to ever do a 100% 1RM rep. I'm guessing and speculating though.

singletrackmtbr

Agreed. Unless you're training for a power lifting competition, there's no reason to do a one rep max. You're more likely to injure yourself that together gain anything from this method without proper training.

That said, I am a big fan of the three rep max, and there are formulas you can use to derive a one rep max from this number.

Back to your original question, that seems like a strange program to me. There are too many tried and true methods out there to start an unusual workout unless you have a very specific goal.

riches41

singletrackmtbr wrote: »

Agreed. Unless you're training for a power lifting competition, there's no reason to do a one rep max. You're more likely to injure yourself that together gain anything from this method without proper training.

That said, I am a big fan of the three rep max, and there are formulas you can use to derive a one rep max from this number.

Back to your original question, that seems like a strange program to me. There are too many tried and true methods out there to start an unusual workout unless you have a very specific goal.

http://www.muscleandfitness.com/workouts/workout-routines/complete-mf-beginners-training-guide-0?day=3

riches41

GauchoMark wrote: »

yeah, given the context, what @middlehaitch said is correct. I have never heard of an 8, 10, 1 program specifically, though. It seems a little odd. The only way it kind of makes sense would be to do warmup sets, then do a set of 8 at about 75% 1RM, a set of 10 at about 75% 1RM, then the last set of 1 at 100% 1RM. However, aside from competitive powerlifters during competitions, most people try not to ever do a 100% 1RM rep. I'm guessing and speculating though.

http://www.muscleandfitness.com/workouts/workout-routines/complete-mf-beginners-training-guide-0?day=3

middlehaitch

@riches41. I have had a look at the programme and am just wondering your reasons for choosing it.
Are you an absolute beginner?
Are you expecting fast results?

I am not against the programme for a quick 4 week intro to the gym and getting to know a variety of different moves using a lot of different equipment. I am just wondering if I missed finding a guide on reasoning behind the work out and the rep frequency/ set weight (% of 1rep max used) used.

I ask as a beginner who would not choose that particular programme because it gives too many moves that are accessory and doesn't focus on form or compound moves.

I think I would feel confused and ungrounded.

Again this is an honest question on the reason you chose it, and what you wish to accomplish.

Cheers, h.

Anvil_Head

riches41 wrote: »

singletrackmtbr wrote: »

Agreed. Unless you're training for a power lifting competition, there's no reason to do a one rep max. You're more likely to injure yourself that together gain anything from this method without proper training.

That said, I am a big fan of the three rep max, and there are formulas you can use to derive a one rep max from this number.

Back to your original question, that seems like a strange program to me. There are too many tried and true methods out there to start an unusual workout unless you have a very specific goal.

http://www.muscleandfitness.com/workouts/workout-routines/complete-mf-beginners-training-guide-0?day=3

To clarify, it looks like the rep scheme is 8, 10, 12 - not 8, 10, 1. That makes more sense, although overall I still consider it an overly complex and jumbled program.

middlehaitch

Thanks for that clarification @Anvil_Head. I am on my phone and read it as 8, 10, 1 too. h.

Anvil_Head

middlehaitch wrote: »

Thanks for that clarification @Anvil_Head. I am on my phone and read it as 8, 10, 1 too. h.

His title (and the OP) says 8 10 1. The routine he linked to at Muscle and Fiction shows is as 8 10 12.

riches41

@middlehaitch Im previously back in the gym after five years i was in gym before but with not the greatest results im now back looking to lose my stomach which isnt huge but still there and build some more muscle trying to find the best program for me is hard with everyones opinion on what to do id like bigger arms bigger legs flat stomach and be a solid 215-225

middlehaitch

Thanks for your reply @riches41. As I said my curiosity was piqued.

I hope once you have run that programme you can find a simple progressive compound lifting programme that will suit your needs.
The ones listed in the sticky 'which lifting programme is best for me' at the top of this board are all well respected.

I hope you picked up on AnvilHead's post pointing out the reps are 8, 10, 12.

Cheers, h.

riches41

middlehaitch wrote: »

Thanks for your reply @riches41. As I said my curiosity was piqued.

I hope once you have run that programme you can find a simple progressive compound lifting programme that will suit your needs.
The ones listed in the sticky 'which lifting programme is best for me' at the top of this board are all well respected.

I hope you picked up on AnvilHead's post pointing out the reps are 8, 10, 12.

Cheers, h.

I saw that i like you looked at it on my phone makes sense

StealthHealth

singletrackmtbr wrote: »

Agreed. Unless you're training for a power lifting competition, there's no reason to do a one rep max. You're more likely to injure yourself that together gain anything from this method without proper training.

That said, I am a big fan of the three rep max, and there are formulas you can use to derive a one rep max from this number.

Back to your original question, that seems like a strange program to me. There are too many tried and true methods out there to start an unusual workout unless you have a very specific goal.

The 1RM is the one that you video and load up on Instagram.