200lbs trying to get to 230

Zeorin
Zeorin Posts: 4 Member
edited December 2024 in Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
My goal is to gain about 20 30 lbs in about 4 months. I plan on consuming the 3500 calories I am supposed to. Eating as clean as i can and use a supplement stack: protein, creatine, pre, bcaa, vitamins ...
Anything you can add to my food or supplementation ?

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  • Zeorin
    Zeorin Posts: 4 Member
    usmcmp, I hope the fat to muscle ratio is different .. but I might increase the time span .. I don't have a specific deadline.. or I will stop the gaining process if it gets out of hand .. but I am sure eating clean and supps will help gain more lean mass
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    It's not about ratio, it's about rate of muscle gain.
    how-fast-can-you-build-muscle-2.jpg

    These are with proper training and nutrition. These numbers are not a guarantee. You have to put in the work and eat appropriately to hit these.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    There are a lot of factors that would drive your muscle to fat ratio: genetic potential, how lean you are to start (the leaner you are... the better and more likely to produce muscle, diet consistency, how new to training you are and type of training being the largest.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    There are a lot of factors that would drive your muscle to fat ratio: genetic potential, how lean you are to start (the leaner you are... the better and more likely to produce muscle, diet consistency, how new to training you are and type of training being the largest.

    All very true. Nonetheless, I'd say that it'll all be a moot point if the OP puts on 20-30 pounds in 4 months. A large percentage of it is still going to be fat gain, and "eating clean" or supplements isn't going to change that. Even at the low end of his goals (20 lbs. in 4 months), that's 5 lbs. of gain per month. Even if his diet and training routine are spot on and he has outstanding genetics, over 50% of that gain will still be fat unless his "supplements" are coming from a vial and a needle.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    The only way to achieve your goal in that timescale is to take PED's.

    That aside, take it slow. You have no timescale and as everyone else above has said, you cannot gain muscle that quickly. Aim for 0.5-1lb a week gain and you may be lucky enough for 50% of that to be lean mass.
  • Zeorin
    Zeorin Posts: 4 Member
    Thank you everyone for the input. I am not new to training .. I have been doing it for 9 years now. I know that most of it will be fat gain .. I don't expect it to be muscle only. .. but I will try to make the best of it with the diet and all. As for the per week gain I am aiming for 1.5 to 2lbs a week.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Training or going to the gym? There's a big difference. If you've been training you would only gain about a pound of muscle during this bulk. If you've just been sort of lifting with no real progression or plan then you would fall closer to gaining a pound per month.
  • pinggolfer96
    pinggolfer96 Posts: 2,248 Member
    I don't understand why you would want to gain unnecessary fat? What's the point of having calories that high and gaining fat when you can just decrease them and still make the same gains. Excess calories in a surplus won't build extra muscle than a lean bulk would. 30lbs in that time frame is gonna give you a nice pack of fat....
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Zeorin wrote: »
    Thank you everyone for the input. I am not new to training .. I have been doing it for 9 years now. I know that most of it will be fat gain .. I don't expect it to be muscle only. .. but I will try to make the best of it with the diet and all. As for the per week gain I am aiming for 1.5 to 2lbs a week.

    Unless you're on a lot of gear, that rate of weight gain is going to result in getting fat as hell.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    SideSteel wrote: »
    Zeorin wrote: »
    Thank you everyone for the input. I am not new to training .. I have been doing it for 9 years now. I know that most of it will be fat gain .. I don't expect it to be muscle only. .. but I will try to make the best of it with the diet and all. As for the per week gain I am aiming for 1.5 to 2lbs a week.

    Unless you're on a lot of gear, that rate of weight gain is going to result in getting fat as hell.

    Answer? Up the tren
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