adding burned cals from weight lifting?

is it needed?
how would i know how many to add?

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  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Log duration as strength training under the cardio section for a very rough estimate based on METS and your weight.
    Doesn't really matter if it's accurate or not, it's only a small calorie burn.
  • Rage_Phish
    Rage_Phish Posts: 1,507 Member
    that was my thought, its small enough its not worth logging?
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    If you are calorie counting why wouldn't you at least attempt an estimate?

    If you ate a snack with no nutritional information available but your best guess was 300 cals would you log it or not?
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    It's easier to throw it in your activity level in my opinion.
  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
    You might log it if you want to track the days you've done it, otherwise it's certainly not necessary. Be careful if you do, though. MFP seems to really overinflate the calories it gives for weight lifting. I usually manually enter 90 calories for my 50-60 minute session.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    SueInAz wrote: »
    You might log it if you want to track the days you've done it, otherwise it's certainly not necessary. Be careful if you do, though. MFP seems to really overinflate the calories it gives for weight lifting. I usually manually enter 90 calories for my 50-60 minute session.

    I'm curious as to your thinking...
    How are you working out it's too high?
    What makes you think it's 90 cals?
  • Rage_Phish
    Rage_Phish Posts: 1,507 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    If you are calorie counting why wouldn't you at least attempt an estimate?

    If you ate a snack with no nutritional information available but your best guess was 300 cals would you log it or not?

    cause i have no idea how to estimate it?
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Rage_Phish wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    If you are calorie counting why wouldn't you at least attempt an estimate?

    If you ate a snack with no nutritional information available but your best guess was 300 cals would you log it or not?

    cause i have no idea how to estimate it?

    Refer to my first post!
    It's based on studies not completely random. The random element comes due to the big variations in people's lifting routines, weights and total volume lifted.
  • Rage_Phish
    Rage_Phish Posts: 1,507 Member
    yours post didnt seem too helpful really. its a way tio get an inaccurate measurement and the amount would be very small anyways?

    seems kinda pointless

    i just added 60 minutes and its telling me 227 cals. that seems pretty high
  • Rage_Phish
    Rage_Phish Posts: 1,507 Member
    and is that 60 minutes assuming im lifting for literally 60 mins? or is it factoring in rest periods? if so, everyones rest periods are different

    just seems so wildly inaccurate its not worth it
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    Log duration as strength training under the cardio section for a very rough estimate based on METS and your weight.
    Doesn't really matter if it's accurate or not, it's only a small calorie burn.

    THIS ^^^

    Actually I just make my own custom cardio workout, ie "Leg Day weight lifting" or "Intermittent Superset all body weight lifting" or whatever and give it 1 calorie per minute. It saves the workout entries and you can reuse them.

  • Rage_Phish
    Rage_Phish Posts: 1,507 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    Log duration as strength training under the cardio section for a very rough estimate based on METS and your weight.
    Doesn't really matter if it's accurate or not, it's only a small calorie burn.

    THIS ^^^

    Actually I just make my own custom cardio workout, ie "Leg Day weight lifting" or "Intermittent Superset all body weight lifting" or whatever and give it 1 calorie per minute. It saves the workout entries and you can reuse them.

    where does the 1 cal per minute come from?
  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
    edited October 2016
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    You might log it if you want to track the days you've done it, otherwise it's certainly not necessary. Be careful if you do, though. MFP seems to really overinflate the calories it gives for weight lifting. I usually manually enter 90 calories for my 50-60 minute session.

    I'm curious as to your thinking...
    How are you working out it's too high?
    What makes you think it's 90 cals?

    I don't think it's 90 calories, per se. I just don't think it's really any more than that and it's a fair number.

    A lot of the time we spend in the gym lifting is spent NOT lifting. In a one hour session how much of that is spent actively picking things up and putting them down again? 30 minutes? 15 minutes? Now, how many calories would we have burned in that hour if we were home sitting on the sofa watching TV instead? Might be a good idea to subtract those calories from what gets entered into MFP, right? Otherwise we're liable to be "double dipping."
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Rage_Phish wrote: »
    yours post didnt seem too helpful really. its a way tio get an inaccurate measurement and the amount would be very small anyways?

    seems kinda pointless

    i just added 60 minutes and its telling me 227 cals. that seems pretty high

    Tip - don't use the pink dumbbells. :)

    Estimate =/= measurement.

    Make your own mind up, if you think zero is closer than 227 for an hour's exercise then go for it, you know your own routine best.
  • Rage_Phish
    Rage_Phish Posts: 1,507 Member
    what do pink dumbells have to do with anything?
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    edited October 2016
    SueInAz wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    You might log it if you want to track the days you've done it, otherwise it's certainly not necessary. Be careful if you do, though. MFP seems to really overinflate the calories it gives for weight lifting. I usually manually enter 90 calories for my 50-60 minute session.

    I'm curious as to your thinking...
    How are you working out it's too high?
    What makes you think it's 90 cals?

    I don't think it's 90 calories, per se. I just don't think it's really any more than that and it's a fair number.

    A lot of the time we spend in the gym lifting is spent NOT lifting. In a one hour session how much of that is spent actively picking things up and putting them down again? 30 minutes? 15 minutes? Now, how many calories would we have burned in that hour if we were home sitting on the sofa watching TV instead? Might be a good idea to subtract those calories from what gets entered into MFP, right? Otherwise we're liable to be "double dipping."

    The estimate is based on the whole workout duration including recovery time.
    You are correct that if you want to be "more accurate" you would subtract 1 MET, but that really is up to you.
  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
    edited October 2016
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    You might log it if you want to track the days you've done it, otherwise it's certainly not necessary. Be careful if you do, though. MFP seems to really overinflate the calories it gives for weight lifting. I usually manually enter 90 calories for my 50-60 minute session.

    I'm curious as to your thinking...
    How are you working out it's too high?
    What makes you think it's 90 cals?

    I don't think it's 90 calories, per se. I just don't think it's really any more than that and it's a fair number.

    A lot of the time we spend in the gym lifting is spent NOT lifting. In a one hour session how much of that is spent actively picking things up and putting them down again? 30 minutes? 15 minutes? Now, how many calories would we have burned in that hour if we were home sitting on the sofa watching TV instead? Might be a good idea to subtract those calories from what gets entered into MFP, right? Otherwise we're liable to be "double dipping."

    The estimate is based on the whole workout duration including recovery time.
    You are correct that if you want to be "more accurate" you would subtract 1 MET, but that really is up to you.

    But again, everyone's rest durations are different, even workout to workout mine are because I trade off with a partner.

    I have a hard time believing I honestly burn close to 200 calories in an hour lifting (MFP's estimate for me) when I know that much of that time is spent sitting or standing. Especially when an hour spent walking is about 130 calories. In any event, I'd always rather underestimate than overestimate. :smile: My weight lifting calories are not the reason I'm losing weight.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    edited October 2016
    It just depends. A day of Deadlifts and squats are gonna burn a *kitten* ton more than a day of arms and core. My easy lifting day might be another person's hard day. Hence, throw that *kitten* in your activity level and call it good.
  • neldabg
    neldabg Posts: 1,452 Member
    SueInAz wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    You might log it if you want to track the days you've done it, otherwise it's certainly not necessary. Be careful if you do, though. MFP seems to really overinflate the calories it gives for weight lifting. I usually manually enter 90 calories for my 50-60 minute session.

    I'm curious as to your thinking...
    How are you working out it's too high?
    What makes you think it's 90 cals?

    I don't think it's 90 calories, per se. I just don't think it's really any more than that and it's a fair number.

    A lot of the time we spend in the gym lifting is spent NOT lifting. In a one hour session how much of that is spent actively picking things up and putting them down again? 30 minutes? 15 minutes? Now, how many calories would we have burned in that hour if we were home sitting on the sofa watching TV instead? Might be a good idea to subtract those calories from what gets entered into MFP, right? Otherwise we're liable to be "double dipping."

    The estimate is based on the whole workout duration including recovery time.
    You are correct that if you want to be "more accurate" you would subtract 1 MET, but that really is up to you.

    But again, everyone's rest durations are different, even workout to workout mine are because I trade off with a partner.

    I have a hard time believing I honestly burn close to 200 calories in an hour lifting (MFP's estimate for me) when I know that much of that time is spent sitting or standing. Especially when an hour spent walking is about 130 calories. In any event, I'd always rather underestimate than overestimate. :smile: My weight lifting calories are not the reason I'm losing weight.

    Are you *sure* you have that estimate correct? I'm a short female maintaing 108-114lbs just fine, and according to my FitBit Charge HR, my one hour walks tend to be 230-320-ish depending on my walking speed.

  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    neldabg wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    You might log it if you want to track the days you've done it, otherwise it's certainly not necessary. Be careful if you do, though. MFP seems to really overinflate the calories it gives for weight lifting. I usually manually enter 90 calories for my 50-60 minute session.

    I'm curious as to your thinking...
    How are you working out it's too high?
    What makes you think it's 90 cals?

    I don't think it's 90 calories, per se. I just don't think it's really any more than that and it's a fair number.

    A lot of the time we spend in the gym lifting is spent NOT lifting. In a one hour session how much of that is spent actively picking things up and putting them down again? 30 minutes? 15 minutes? Now, how many calories would we have burned in that hour if we were home sitting on the sofa watching TV instead? Might be a good idea to subtract those calories from what gets entered into MFP, right? Otherwise we're liable to be "double dipping."

    The estimate is based on the whole workout duration including recovery time.
    You are correct that if you want to be "more accurate" you would subtract 1 MET, but that really is up to you.

    But again, everyone's rest durations are different, even workout to workout mine are because I trade off with a partner.

    I have a hard time believing I honestly burn close to 200 calories in an hour lifting (MFP's estimate for me) when I know that much of that time is spent sitting or standing. Especially when an hour spent walking is about 130 calories. In any event, I'd always rather underestimate than overestimate. :smile: My weight lifting calories are not the reason I'm losing weight.

    Are you *sure* you have that estimate correct? I'm a short female maintaing 108-114lbs just fine, and according to my FitBit Charge HR, my one hour walks tend to be 230-320-ish depending on my walking speed.

    Walking burns about .3 times your body weight per mile.
  • neldabg
    neldabg Posts: 1,452 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    neldabg wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    You might log it if you want to track the days you've done it, otherwise it's certainly not necessary. Be careful if you do, though. MFP seems to really overinflate the calories it gives for weight lifting. I usually manually enter 90 calories for my 50-60 minute session.

    I'm curious as to your thinking...
    How are you working out it's too high?
    What makes you think it's 90 cals?

    I don't think it's 90 calories, per se. I just don't think it's really any more than that and it's a fair number.

    A lot of the time we spend in the gym lifting is spent NOT lifting. In a one hour session how much of that is spent actively picking things up and putting them down again? 30 minutes? 15 minutes? Now, how many calories would we have burned in that hour if we were home sitting on the sofa watching TV instead? Might be a good idea to subtract those calories from what gets entered into MFP, right? Otherwise we're liable to be "double dipping."

    The estimate is based on the whole workout duration including recovery time.
    You are correct that if you want to be "more accurate" you would subtract 1 MET, but that really is up to you.

    But again, everyone's rest durations are different, even workout to workout mine are because I trade off with a partner.

    I have a hard time believing I honestly burn close to 200 calories in an hour lifting (MFP's estimate for me) when I know that much of that time is spent sitting or standing. Especially when an hour spent walking is about 130 calories. In any event, I'd always rather underestimate than overestimate. :smile: My weight lifting calories are not the reason I'm losing weight.

    Are you *sure* you have that estimate correct? I'm a short female maintaing 108-114lbs just fine, and according to my FitBit Charge HR, my one hour walks tend to be 230-320-ish depending on my walking speed.

    Walking burns about .3 times your body weight per mile.

    Interesting. Thanks. I wonder how FitBit gets my calculations then? Perhaps my walks are more brisk than I think they are? Idk. Something's off somewhere in how I log since I'm not gaining weight and only remove my FitBit for showers.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    Fitbit includes your neat as well as exercise calories
  • itsbasschick
    itsbasschick Posts: 1,584 Member
    you could download endomondo's app, sync it with your MFP account and it counts calories for circuit training and all sorts of other stuff. you can also hook it up to a HRM if you like.
  • Chieflrg
    Chieflrg Posts: 9,097 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    neldabg wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    You might log it if you want to track the days you've done it, otherwise it's certainly not necessary. Be careful if you do, though. MFP seems to really overinflate the calories it gives for weight lifting. I usually manually enter 90 calories for my 50-60 minute session.

    I'm curious as to your thinking...
    How are you working out it's too high?
    What makes you think it's 90 cals?

    I don't think it's 90 calories, per se. I just don't think it's really any more than that and it's a fair number.

    A lot of the time we spend in the gym lifting is spent NOT lifting. In a one hour session how much of that is spent actively picking things up and putting them down again? 30 minutes? 15 minutes? Now, how many calories would we have burned in that hour if we were home sitting on the sofa watching TV instead? Might be a good idea to subtract those calories from what gets entered into MFP, right? Otherwise we're liable to be "double dipping."

    The estimate is based on the whole workout duration including recovery time.
    You are correct that if you want to be "more accurate" you would subtract 1 MET, but that really is up to you.

    But again, everyone's rest durations are different, even workout to workout mine are because I trade off with a partner.

    I have a hard time believing I honestly burn close to 200 calories in an hour lifting (MFP's estimate for me) when I know that much of that time is spent sitting or standing. Especially when an hour spent walking is about 130 calories. In any event, I'd always rather underestimate than overestimate. :smile: My weight lifting calories are not the reason I'm losing weight.

    Are you *sure* you have that estimate correct? I'm a short female maintaing 108-114lbs just fine, and according to my FitBit Charge HR, my one hour walks tend to be 230-320-ish depending on my walking speed.

    Walking burns about .3 times your body weight per mile.

    ^^^This is correct and running is just over .6 * BW per mile.
  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,486 Member
    edited October 2016
    Just my experience.
    Over a 3 month period I was losing a pound a month when lifting exclusively 3x90. I added 100 cals a day and everything stabilized.

    That works out to 233 cals per session. The sessions are long because I take slightly longer rests- what can I say I'm old :)

    Cheers, h.

    ( for ref: 5'1, 102 lbs, 1350 cals sedentary)

    Edit to add: I've been maintaining 6 yr so pretty confident with my numbers
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited October 2016
    200 calories an hour is around a yoga class

    You don't think you burn as much in an hour lifting?

    Personally I throw in cardio and tend to superset, I take 350 for 45 min session alone and 500-600 for 70 mins with trainer and my bio feedback over 2 years tells me that's fine

    (Ref 5'8, 160 my sedentary TDEE would be around 1750)
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    Due to the massive inaccuracies I do not log weigh lifting calories burned.