Weightlifting: If you can X after Y, you aren't working hard enough.
Lizarking
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Anyone else hate this mantra?
> If you can text/talk/gossip between sets, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can do isolation after compound moves, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can keep bowel integrity, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can walk after squats, you aren't working hard enough.
It puts a really weird goal of 'working hard enough' out there.
What is this 'working hard enough?'
It's more macho BS that should be tossed aside.
Does anyone here knock out a set of bench, or whatever, and then become completely inert?
I can honestly say I've never experienced this, even when pushing new max weights resulting in multiple failures to the pins.
> If you can text/talk/gossip between sets, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can do isolation after compound moves, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can keep bowel integrity, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can walk after squats, you aren't working hard enough.
It puts a really weird goal of 'working hard enough' out there.
What is this 'working hard enough?'
It's more macho BS that should be tossed aside.
Does anyone here knock out a set of bench, or whatever, and then become completely inert?
I can honestly say I've never experienced this, even when pushing new max weights resulting in multiple failures to the pins.
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I agree. I will max out 2-3 times in a session and then still do a lighter weight until failure just to make sure I feel the burn and get every single muscle activated. And I feel like I work out "hard enough." And I text between sets...or change the song, or do whatever I want to do on my phone, I hate the people that judge this behavior (unless of course someone is sitting for extended amounts of time just wasting time on their phone)3
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I do dishes between sets. Not sure where that fits in.
I only do compounds because I'm lazy and they get the job done.
Proud to say I keep my pants clean.
If you can't walk after squats you need to squat more often.
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> If you can text/talk/gossip between sets, you aren't working hard enough.
I've never heard that. I have heard, "if you can text/talk while working, you aren't working hard enough."> If you can do isolation after compound moves, you aren't working hard enough.
I've never heard that, either. In fact, the vast majority of programs have you do isos after compounds. Of course, that's if isos are involved at all.> If you can keep bowel integrity, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can walk after squats, you aren't working hard enough.
I'm pretty sure those are just jokes. I guess I could be wrong, but I hope not.0 -
It sounds like a way to injury oneself!
I don't believe that at all. I train smart and follow my programing. Also since I train lower body 3-4x per week, maxing out one day would possibly mean sub-par workouts the rest of the week.. not ideal for me.2 -
Working hard enough is progression towards your goals.1
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I've never actually heard any of those things...but really, working hard enough would depend on the training protocol for the day...IDK...my programming doesn't have me going balls out every single training bout.
IDK...rest between sessions can be pretty variable...I know power lifters who will take five minutes between sets to rest...what else are they supposed to do?> If you can text/talk/gossip between sets, you aren't working hard enough.
I would agree that they should be at the end of your workout...but I'm pretty sure body builders do tons of isolation work even after they've performed compound movements...> If you can do isolation after compound moves, you aren't working hard enough.
I've been in and out of gyms most of my life and I've yet to see someone *kitten* their pants> If you can keep bowel integrity, you aren't working hard enough.
The only time I've ever seen this is with someone new to squats and usually lifting in general.> If you can walk after squats, you aren't working hard enough.
Not sure who you're hearing this kind of stuff from, but I'd just ignore it and not let it bother you...because none of it even makes sense.1 -
Anyone else hate this mantra?
> If you can text/talk/gossip between sets, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can do isolation after compound moves, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can keep bowel integrity, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can walk after squats, you aren't working hard enough.
It puts a really weird goal of 'working hard enough' out there.
What is this 'working hard enough?'
It's more macho BS that should be tossed aside.
Does anyone here knock out a set of bench, or whatever, and then become completely inert?
I can honestly say I've never experienced this, even when pushing new max weights resulting in multiple failures to the pins.
Sounds like you've been reading articles over at T Nation.
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Anyone else hate this mantra?
> If you can text/talk/gossip between sets, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can do isolation after compound moves, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can keep bowel integrity, you aren't working hard enough.
> If you can walk after squats, you aren't working hard enough.
It puts a really weird goal of 'working hard enough' out there.
What is this 'working hard enough?'
It's more macho BS that should be tossed aside.
Does anyone here knock out a set of bench, or whatever, and then become completely inert?
I can honestly say I've never experienced this, even when pushing new max weights resulting in multiple failures to the pins.
Sounds like you've been reading articles over at T Nation.
Or over in the teen section at bodybuilding.com
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I have seen comments to the effect of "you're not working hard enough if you're not sore after leg day." I am a fan of working legs 2+ times a week, though, so I don't feel the need to annihilate them in order to make up for ignoring them all week.2
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This is complete crapola. Where are you hanging out or where have you been surfing the net?0
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If you can't walk after your squats then you don't squat enough. I skwaat everyday to a 90%+ 1rm. And I'm fine after all while making aalll kinds of gainz0
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i've heard that kind of stuff. it just sounds like overexcitable silliness to me, so yeah. i don't take it seriously and i either roll my eyes or get irritated depending on how cranky and hangry i am at the time.0
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Um, "bowel integrity?" Really? Does this mean that if you don't *kitten* yourself, you're not working hard enough?
(I don't work hard enough--I'll gladly stipulate that. I'm just curious about the phrase "bowel integrity.")0 -
Never heard any of those phrases in four decades of gym workouts - then again mobile phones hadn't been invented when I started training.
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butterbuns123 wrote: »If you can't walk after your squats then you don't squat enough. I skwaat everyday to a 90%+ 1rm. And I'm fine after all while making aalll kinds of gainz
You forgot the link to a Hodge Twins video.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I've been in and out of gyms most of my life and I've yet to see someone *kitten* their pants
according to someone in my 'club' there's a guy somewhere in america who offers a free t-shirt to anyone who does do this while squatting in his gym.
they told me about this last week and i was sort of baffled. seems to me that if you wanted to fake your way to that kind of cred it couldn't be too terribly hard. not that i'm planning to experiment or anything.0 -
I purposely don't go all out when lifting because I found that it triggered migraines for me. It's the same reason I don't do HiIT. Guess I'm a poser.
Here's a another one where I'm sacrilegious... I prefer dumbbells. Because I have scoliosis and have major imbalances that the barbell only masks. My left side is significantly weaker than my right and working with the barbell only made it worse.
I'm a weirdo.0 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »I purposely don't go all out when lifting because I found that it triggered migraines for me. It's the same reason I don't do HiIT. Guess I'm a poser.
Here's a another one where I'm sacrilegious... I prefer dumbbells. Because I have scoliosis and have major imbalances that the barbell only masks. My left side is significantly weaker than my right and working with the barbell only made it worse.
I'm a weirdo.
No you're not...you know what your body can take. 2
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