Below 1200 cal diet : success! (Loads of water +plus fiber drink)
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
There is a reason why I pointed out that I'm not trying to lose weight - I'm short, but I am very petite. We don't know if she is, and just wanted to lose a few pounds. I'm using the normal TDEE calculator.WinoGelato wrote: »I never did see her respond with her stats. OP, what is your height/weight? Height is especially good to know in this scenario.
I'm 5'2". I could go under 1200 for weight loss just because I'm so short, it wouldn't be unhealthy for me. My TDEE is around 1500 when lightly active [note; I'm not trying to lose weight right now, though]
I'm 5'2 as well and going under 1200 would be unhealthy for me, as my TDEE is 2200. Not to mention it is often difficult to get adequate nutrition on lower calories.
The minimums are there for a reason. 5'2 isn't THAT petite and anyone who isn't extremely sedentary should be able to eat more and lose.
That TDEE of 1500 at lightly active seems kind of low. How did you arrive at that number?
If a woman is sedentary, 5'2", and not very heavy, their TDEE will be fairly low. 117lbs with her stats is a TDEE of about 1450, for example. Losing the 7lbs would put her at 110lbs, a TDEE of 1400 [and still healthy for our height]. Just under 1200 isn't far off [and you can eat a shocking amount of food in volume, still]. But again, this is why I asked for her stats. When I started out at 200lbs, 1200 would be soooo unhealthy for me. I was sedentary af then, but my TDEE was still over 1900.
Unfortunately, not everyone is balls-to-the-wall active. I'll sometimes get up there in activity depending on what areas I'm switching to at work, and I do adjust for it, but I'm nowhere near your TDEE. xD; Ever. But I never said it was healthy for OP, just that we need her stats.
OP, I'll ask again for your stats, you only gave height. We kinda need your weight to see if this is even healthy for you.
How are you calculating a sedentary TDEE of 1450? A 5'2" woman in her 20s will have closer to a 1700 calorie TDEE at 117 lbs, according to most calculators I've used. Just bumping up the activity level a bit will put it close to 1,800-2,000 calories.
OP is 30 [checked profile]. Also, what calculator are YOU using...? o___O And what activity level did you set it to?
I use https://tdeecalculator.net/ and occasionally a few others just to verify the ballparks given.
Another site I checked gave me a ballpark of about 1550 @ 117, 1500 @ 110..
A 3rd gives about 1450 @ 117, 1400 @ 110..
I'm literally going down the list on google right now.. xD
That's the one I'm using, and to get full benefit from it, you really should use it with bodyfat percentage as its designed to be used.2 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
There is a reason why I pointed out that I'm not trying to lose weight - I'm short, but I am very petite. We don't know if she is, and just wanted to lose a few pounds. I'm using the normal TDEE calculator.WinoGelato wrote: »I never did see her respond with her stats. OP, what is your height/weight? Height is especially good to know in this scenario.
I'm 5'2". I could go under 1200 for weight loss just because I'm so short, it wouldn't be unhealthy for me. My TDEE is around 1500 when lightly active [note; I'm not trying to lose weight right now, though]
I'm 5'2 as well and going under 1200 would be unhealthy for me, as my TDEE is 2200. Not to mention it is often difficult to get adequate nutrition on lower calories.
The minimums are there for a reason. 5'2 isn't THAT petite and anyone who isn't extremely sedentary should be able to eat more and lose.
That TDEE of 1500 at lightly active seems kind of low. How did you arrive at that number?
If a woman is sedentary, 5'2", and not very heavy, their TDEE will be fairly low. 117lbs with her stats is a TDEE of about 1450, for example. Losing the 7lbs would put her at 110lbs, a TDEE of 1400 [and still healthy for our height]. Just under 1200 isn't far off [and you can eat a shocking amount of food in volume, still]. But again, this is why I asked for her stats. When I started out at 200lbs, 1200 would be soooo unhealthy for me. I was sedentary af then, but my TDEE was still over 1900.
Unfortunately, not everyone is balls-to-the-wall active. I'll sometimes get up there in activity depending on what areas I'm switching to at work, and I do adjust for it, but I'm nowhere near your TDEE. xD; Ever. But I never said it was healthy for OP, just that we need her stats.
OP, I'll ask again for your stats, you only gave height. We kinda need your weight to see if this is even healthy for you.
I'm sorry, but just how are you calculating this? I'm 5'1", 54 years old, 117 pounds, and my sedentary TDEE using the most stringent calculator I could find is almost 1500.
As for winogelato, plugging her stats into the same calculator gets me an almost 2,000 TDEE, and that's only calling her moderately active. Hardly "balls-to-the-wall".
I responded to another person with the calculator I tend to use, then began going down the list of calculators when I googled for more. All are roughly around the same calories give-or-take 100.0 -
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
There is a reason why I pointed out that I'm not trying to lose weight - I'm short, but I am very petite. We don't know if she is, and just wanted to lose a few pounds. I'm using the normal TDEE calculator.WinoGelato wrote: »I never did see her respond with her stats. OP, what is your height/weight? Height is especially good to know in this scenario.
I'm 5'2". I could go under 1200 for weight loss just because I'm so short, it wouldn't be unhealthy for me. My TDEE is around 1500 when lightly active [note; I'm not trying to lose weight right now, though]
I'm 5'2 as well and going under 1200 would be unhealthy for me, as my TDEE is 2200. Not to mention it is often difficult to get adequate nutrition on lower calories.
The minimums are there for a reason. 5'2 isn't THAT petite and anyone who isn't extremely sedentary should be able to eat more and lose.
That TDEE of 1500 at lightly active seems kind of low. How did you arrive at that number?
If a woman is sedentary, 5'2", and not very heavy, their TDEE will be fairly low. 117lbs with her stats is a TDEE of about 1450, for example. Losing the 7lbs would put her at 110lbs, a TDEE of 1400 [and still healthy for our height]. Just under 1200 isn't far off [and you can eat a shocking amount of food in volume, still]. But again, this is why I asked for her stats. When I started out at 200lbs, 1200 would be soooo unhealthy for me. I was sedentary af then, but my TDEE was still over 1900.
Unfortunately, not everyone is balls-to-the-wall active. I'll sometimes get up there in activity depending on what areas I'm switching to at work, and I do adjust for it, but I'm nowhere near your TDEE. xD; Ever. But I never said it was healthy for OP, just that we need her stats.
OP, I'll ask again for your stats, you only gave height. We kinda need your weight to see if this is even healthy for you.
How are you calculating a sedentary TDEE of 1450? A 5'2" woman in her 20s will have closer to a 1700 calorie TDEE at 117 lbs, according to most calculators I've used. Just bumping up the activity level a bit will put it close to 1,800-2,000 calories.
OP is 30 [checked profile]. Also, what calculator are YOU using...? o___O And what activity level did you set it to?
I use https://tdeecalculator.net/ and occasionally a few others just to verify the ballparks given.
Another site I checked gave me a ballpark of about 1550 @ 117, 1500 @ 110..
A 3rd gives about 1450 @ 117, 1400 @ 110..
I'm literally going down the list on google right now.. xD
You're right, my mistake - sedentary TDEE for those stats is closer to 1500. However, not very many people are truly sedentary. For the general, healthy public, lightly active is much more representative. Lightly active bumps it up considerably to closer to 1,800, which is much a much more accurate estimate, IMO, barring a health condition.
And this is not "balls to the wall" active we're talking about. This is normal every day activity - walking your dog, cleaning your house, walking around the office, grocery shopping. Making a concerted effort to exercise can bump that number up even more.
I'm not saying she might not be at that.
I was literally saying in my posts that it is a possibility. Many people get on this site because they are being so incredibly inactive. One issue we see of people on the forums when they first arrive questioning why they've not been losing is they've been overestimating themselves, too.
Someone can be sedentary. I was. I had a desk job, sat 10 hours/day, drove home [sitting]... I started being more active after weight loss, but 'til then, I was deeeeefinitely sedentary. It happens.
S'why I'm still asking her for her stats.
Also, of course TDEE will still be higher when you set for lightly active. That wasn't the point of this conversation. [also, off to work for me]0 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
There is a reason why I pointed out that I'm not trying to lose weight - I'm short, but I am very petite. We don't know if she is, and just wanted to lose a few pounds. I'm using the normal TDEE calculator.WinoGelato wrote: »I never did see her respond with her stats. OP, what is your height/weight? Height is especially good to know in this scenario.
I'm 5'2". I could go under 1200 for weight loss just because I'm so short, it wouldn't be unhealthy for me. My TDEE is around 1500 when lightly active [note; I'm not trying to lose weight right now, though]
I'm 5'2 as well and going under 1200 would be unhealthy for me, as my TDEE is 2200. Not to mention it is often difficult to get adequate nutrition on lower calories.
The minimums are there for a reason. 5'2 isn't THAT petite and anyone who isn't extremely sedentary should be able to eat more and lose.
That TDEE of 1500 at lightly active seems kind of low. How did you arrive at that number?
If a woman is sedentary, 5'2", and not very heavy, their TDEE will be fairly low. 117lbs with her stats is a TDEE of about 1450, for example. Losing the 7lbs would put her at 110lbs, a TDEE of 1400 [and still healthy for our height]. Just under 1200 isn't far off [and you can eat a shocking amount of food in volume, still]. But again, this is why I asked for her stats. When I started out at 200lbs, 1200 would be soooo unhealthy for me. I was sedentary af then, but my TDEE was still over 1900.
Unfortunately, not everyone is balls-to-the-wall active. I'll sometimes get up there in activity depending on what areas I'm switching to at work, and I do adjust for it, but I'm nowhere near your TDEE. xD; Ever. But I never said it was healthy for OP, just that we need her stats.
OP, I'll ask again for your stats, you only gave height. We kinda need your weight to see if this is even healthy for you.
I'm sorry, but just how are you calculating this? I'm 5'1", 54 years old, 117 pounds, and my sedentary TDEE using the most stringent calculator I could find is almost 1500.
As for winogelato, plugging her stats into the same calculator gets me an almost 2,000 TDEE, and that's only calling her moderately active. Hardly "balls-to-the-wall".
I responded to another person with the calculator I tend to use, then began going down the list of calculators when I googled for more. All are roughly around the same calories give-or-take 100.
And that calculator (as I pointed out to you in another post) is meant to be used with bodyfat percentage, otherwise the results are going to skew abnormally low. That's why you're getting pushback here.
There are other, better calculators to use when you don't have that information to plug in.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
There is a reason why I pointed out that I'm not trying to lose weight - I'm short, but I am very petite. We don't know if she is, and just wanted to lose a few pounds. I'm using the normal TDEE calculator.WinoGelato wrote: »I never did see her respond with her stats. OP, what is your height/weight? Height is especially good to know in this scenario.
I'm 5'2". I could go under 1200 for weight loss just because I'm so short, it wouldn't be unhealthy for me. My TDEE is around 1500 when lightly active [note; I'm not trying to lose weight right now, though]
I'm 5'2 as well and going under 1200 would be unhealthy for me, as my TDEE is 2200. Not to mention it is often difficult to get adequate nutrition on lower calories.
The minimums are there for a reason. 5'2 isn't THAT petite and anyone who isn't extremely sedentary should be able to eat more and lose.
That TDEE of 1500 at lightly active seems kind of low. How did you arrive at that number?
If a woman is sedentary, 5'2", and not very heavy, their TDEE will be fairly low. 117lbs with her stats is a TDEE of about 1450, for example. Losing the 7lbs would put her at 110lbs, a TDEE of 1400 [and still healthy for our height]. Just under 1200 isn't far off [and you can eat a shocking amount of food in volume, still]. But again, this is why I asked for her stats. When I started out at 200lbs, 1200 would be soooo unhealthy for me. I was sedentary af then, but my TDEE was still over 1900.
Unfortunately, not everyone is balls-to-the-wall active. I'll sometimes get up there in activity depending on what areas I'm switching to at work, and I do adjust for it, but I'm nowhere near your TDEE. xD; Ever. But I never said it was healthy for OP, just that we need her stats.
OP, I'll ask again for your stats, you only gave height. We kinda need your weight to see if this is even healthy for you.
How are you calculating a sedentary TDEE of 1450? A 5'2" woman in her 20s will have closer to a 1700 calorie TDEE at 117 lbs, according to most calculators I've used. Just bumping up the activity level a bit will put it close to 1,800-2,000 calories.
OP is 30 [checked profile]. Also, what calculator are YOU using...? o___O And what activity level did you set it to?
I use https://tdeecalculator.net/ and occasionally a few others just to verify the ballparks given.
Another site I checked gave me a ballpark of about 1550 @ 117, 1500 @ 110..
A 3rd gives about 1450 @ 117, 1400 @ 110..
I'm literally going down the list on google right now.. xD
If that is the TDEE calculator you are using, I definitely think it underestimates. I plugged in 5'2 and moderately active for myself, and it projects 1,780. In order to get the TDEE you said that you had (1500) , that means you weigh 90lbs, is that right?
While my TDEE may be higher than many petite women, I'm hardly balls to the walls active. I walk about 15K steps/day and do light circuit training 3 times a week. I have a desk job and spend a good portion of my day sitting too. I make a concentrated effort to get my steps in, but it is hardly an excessive effort. I would consider that "moderate exercise".
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
There is a reason why I pointed out that I'm not trying to lose weight - I'm short, but I am very petite. We don't know if she is, and just wanted to lose a few pounds. I'm using the normal TDEE calculator.WinoGelato wrote: »I never did see her respond with her stats. OP, what is your height/weight? Height is especially good to know in this scenario.
I'm 5'2". I could go under 1200 for weight loss just because I'm so short, it wouldn't be unhealthy for me. My TDEE is around 1500 when lightly active [note; I'm not trying to lose weight right now, though]
I'm 5'2 as well and going under 1200 would be unhealthy for me, as my TDEE is 2200. Not to mention it is often difficult to get adequate nutrition on lower calories.
The minimums are there for a reason. 5'2 isn't THAT petite and anyone who isn't extremely sedentary should be able to eat more and lose.
That TDEE of 1500 at lightly active seems kind of low. How did you arrive at that number?
If a woman is sedentary, 5'2", and not very heavy, their TDEE will be fairly low. 117lbs with her stats is a TDEE of about 1450, for example. Losing the 7lbs would put her at 110lbs, a TDEE of 1400 [and still healthy for our height]. Just under 1200 isn't far off [and you can eat a shocking amount of food in volume, still]. But again, this is why I asked for her stats. When I started out at 200lbs, 1200 would be soooo unhealthy for me. I was sedentary af then, but my TDEE was still over 1900.
Unfortunately, not everyone is balls-to-the-wall active. I'll sometimes get up there in activity depending on what areas I'm switching to at work, and I do adjust for it, but I'm nowhere near your TDEE. xD; Ever. But I never said it was healthy for OP, just that we need her stats.
OP, I'll ask again for your stats, you only gave height. We kinda need your weight to see if this is even healthy for you.
How are you calculating a sedentary TDEE of 1450? A 5'2" woman in her 20s will have closer to a 1700 calorie TDEE at 117 lbs, according to most calculators I've used. Just bumping up the activity level a bit will put it close to 1,800-2,000 calories.
OP is 30 [checked profile]. Also, what calculator are YOU using...? o___O And what activity level did you set it to?
I use https://tdeecalculator.net/ and occasionally a few others just to verify the ballparks given.
Another site I checked gave me a ballpark of about 1550 @ 117, 1500 @ 110..
A 3rd gives about 1450 @ 117, 1400 @ 110..
I'm literally going down the list on google right now.. xD
You're right, my mistake - sedentary TDEE for those stats is closer to 1500. However, not very many people are truly sedentary. For the general, healthy public, lightly active is much more representative. Lightly active bumps it up considerably to closer to 1,800, which is much a much more accurate estimate, IMO, barring a health condition.
And this is not "balls to the wall" active we're talking about. This is normal every day activity - walking your dog, cleaning your house, walking around the office, grocery shopping. Making a concerted effort to exercise can bump that number up even more.
I'm not saying she might not be at that.
I was literally saying in my posts that it is a possibility. Many people get on this site because they are being so incredibly inactive. One issue we see of people on the forums when they first arrive questioning why they've not been losing is they've been overestimating themselves, too.
Someone can be sedentary. I was. I had a desk job, sat 10 hours/day, drove home [sitting]... I started being more active after weight loss, but 'til then, I was deeeeefinitely sedentary. It happens.
S'why I'm still asking her for her stats.
Also, of course TDEE will still be higher when you set for lightly active. That wasn't the point of this conversation. [also, off to work for me]
Also, while many people classify themselves as "sedentary" I think people are more active than they think. Rather than assuming everyone is sedentary, and because they are petite they should be eating low calories in order to lose weight, we should be encouraging people to be more active, not just exercise but to increase their NEAT. That has certainly made a huge impact on my TDEE - like you, I was far more "sedentary" when I started. I've worked to increase my activity level and my daily step count, and as a result, the total calories I burn have increased too. Rather than telling people "it's ok, us shorties have to really be careful and eat low calories if we want to lose" (a message I see in almost every 1200 thread we have on this site), I think we should be encouraging people to get up and move more, take more steps, do some purposeful exercise if they are physically able and interested.
Because at the end of the day - would you rather be 5'2 and eating 1000-1200 cals/day and taking dietary fiber, or would you rather be 5'2, walking a dog every morning, walking outside in the middle of the workday on breaks, taking kids for a walk in the evening... and eating 2200 calories of delicious food?
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WinoGelato wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
There is a reason why I pointed out that I'm not trying to lose weight - I'm short, but I am very petite. We don't know if she is, and just wanted to lose a few pounds. I'm using the normal TDEE calculator.WinoGelato wrote: »I never did see her respond with her stats. OP, what is your height/weight? Height is especially good to know in this scenario.
I'm 5'2". I could go under 1200 for weight loss just because I'm so short, it wouldn't be unhealthy for me. My TDEE is around 1500 when lightly active [note; I'm not trying to lose weight right now, though]
I'm 5'2 as well and going under 1200 would be unhealthy for me, as my TDEE is 2200. Not to mention it is often difficult to get adequate nutrition on lower calories.
The minimums are there for a reason. 5'2 isn't THAT petite and anyone who isn't extremely sedentary should be able to eat more and lose.
That TDEE of 1500 at lightly active seems kind of low. How did you arrive at that number?
If a woman is sedentary, 5'2", and not very heavy, their TDEE will be fairly low. 117lbs with her stats is a TDEE of about 1450, for example. Losing the 7lbs would put her at 110lbs, a TDEE of 1400 [and still healthy for our height]. Just under 1200 isn't far off [and you can eat a shocking amount of food in volume, still]. But again, this is why I asked for her stats. When I started out at 200lbs, 1200 would be soooo unhealthy for me. I was sedentary af then, but my TDEE was still over 1900.
Unfortunately, not everyone is balls-to-the-wall active. I'll sometimes get up there in activity depending on what areas I'm switching to at work, and I do adjust for it, but I'm nowhere near your TDEE. xD; Ever. But I never said it was healthy for OP, just that we need her stats.
OP, I'll ask again for your stats, you only gave height. We kinda need your weight to see if this is even healthy for you.
How are you calculating a sedentary TDEE of 1450? A 5'2" woman in her 20s will have closer to a 1700 calorie TDEE at 117 lbs, according to most calculators I've used. Just bumping up the activity level a bit will put it close to 1,800-2,000 calories.
OP is 30 [checked profile]. Also, what calculator are YOU using...? o___O And what activity level did you set it to?
I use https://tdeecalculator.net/ and occasionally a few others just to verify the ballparks given.
Another site I checked gave me a ballpark of about 1550 @ 117, 1500 @ 110..
A 3rd gives about 1450 @ 117, 1400 @ 110..
I'm literally going down the list on google right now.. xD
If that is the TDEE calculator you are using, I definitely think it underestimates. I plugged in 5'2 and moderately active for myself, and it projects 1,780. In order to get the TDEE you said that you had (1500) , that means you weigh 90lbs, is that right?
While my TDEE may be higher than many petite women, I'm hardly balls to the walls active. I walk about 15K steps/day and do light circuit training 3 times a week. I have a desk job and spend a good portion of my day sitting too. I make a concentrated effort to get my steps in, but it is hardly an excessive effort. I would consider that "moderate exercise".
I calculated yours estimating your body fat from what I've seen in pictures elsewhere
I got closer to 2000 for your TDEE.
As I've been saying, that calculator is pretty much meant to be used with a body fat percentage input.1 -
Thanks ladies for your insights!
trust me im very sedentary.
I work from home, basically on my laptop all day or watch tv. I go out weekends or if i have meetings outside. Other than that i really dont do anything.
I know i have to create caloric deficit to lose weight.
So i figure i have to eat less than my recommended daily cal. And just choose healthier meals.
So far it works for me. Id rather eat less than work my butt off at the gym.
I would love to attend a zumba class however, its too far from our place and not convenient at all. (Excuses lol) ok im just lazy.
MFP helps me choose what to eat.
Example. I realized most food that i eat before are packed with so much calories. Like a small piece of brownies , strabuck latte and japanese food.
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So, If im correct you said you were drinking 20 glasses of water a day....Be very careful with this. Too much water can flood your kidneys and flush out needed nutrients. You can end up shutting your kidneys down!! It is recommended you drink 8 glasses a day. 8.1
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I clicked on this to see other's success stories at the 1200 calories, all I am reading is about the first lady's post. Not what I clicked to read.0
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Great job, I am on a restricted diet as well..between 1000 and 1400 with exercise. I have about 50lbs to lose and most is water weight. Keep up the great work and stick to your plan. I am under doctors supervision.
I am 5ft4.5in and weigh 248lbs.0 -
briannadunn wrote: »Great job, I am on a restricted diet as well..between 1000 and 1400 with exercise. I have about 50lbs to lose and most is water weight. Keep up the great work and stick to your plan. I am under doctors supervision.
I am 5ft4.5in and weigh 248lbs.
Not to be rude, but I don't think most of that 50 lbs is water weight...why do you think it is?0 -
briannadunn wrote: »Great job, I am on a restricted diet as well..between 1000 and 1400 with exercise. I have about 50lbs to lose and most is water weight. Keep up the great work and stick to your plan. I am under doctors supervision.
I am 5ft4.5in and weigh 248lbs.
I don't understand what you are saying about the water weight? Why do you think the 50 lbs you are aiming to lose is mostly water?
You are 5'4ish and weigh 248 lbs currently? You have more than 50 lbs to lose in order to be at a healthy BMI, and so if you are doing so under doctor's supervision, then that is probably a good thing. What kind of doctor?
The OP however, only had 20 lbs to lose, and wasn't doing it under a doctors supervision. She was eating below the recommended minimum amount and seemed to be banking on drinking lots of water and taking soluble fiber in order to see her through this. That doesn't sound like the healthiest, most sustainable approach, which is what most in the thread were trying to explain to her.
Cheering her on and telling her to keep up the great work, when it may not be the healthiest plan to begin with, may not be the best approach.1 -
keeping my caloric intake below 1000-1200.
So below 1000 or between 1000 and 1200? How long are you planning to do this? Have you talked to a doctor?Need to work on macronutrients though.
Not hitting required daily vitamin levels
This is likely related to the low calorie intake as well as the lack of vegetables that you mentioned.0
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