Food Intolerance Testing

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danielle0400
danielle0400 Posts: 47 Member
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Hey there! Just curious to who has had the test done? What did your results reveal and how did you change your lifestyle after? I realize it's a controversial test, I had it done. Which was pretty helpful, and surprising.

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  • Maggieba
    Maggieba Posts: 47 Member
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    I'm considering it. It's good to hear you found it helpful... might nudge me to just do it! What was most surprising?
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
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    I am intolerant to more than ten Wendy's spicy chicken nuggets at a time.
    No tests needed. My guts tell me the next day that they don't tolerate it.

    I am also intolerant to kale. I put it in my mouth once and my taste buds immediately reacted with complete intolerance.

    My father-in-law is intolerant to lactose (the sugar in dairy products). If he eats to much pizza he has to take a few extra bathroom breaks. If he eats regular ice cream he can't stray far from the toilet at all.
  • danielle0400
    danielle0400 Posts: 47 Member
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    Maggieba wrote: »
    I'm considering it. It's good to hear you found it helpful... might nudge me to just do it! What was most surprising?

    Uh, dairy! Everything dairy was a high reaction. I live in whey shakes, low fat cheese, etc... my main issues were bloating, constipation and heartburn. Which all increase when I get hard core into working out and upping my supplements. Yeast was high, i had always blamed my issues on Gluten, but I was a tad off.
  • danielle0400
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    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    I am also intolerant to kale. I put it in my mouth once and my taste buds immediately reacted with complete intolerance.

    Lmao.
  • MissusMoon
    MissusMoon Posts: 1,900 Member
    edited November 2016
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    danielle0400 wrote: »
    Hey there! Just curious to who has had the test done? What did your results reveal and how did you change your lifestyle after? I realize it's a controversial test, I had it done. Which was pretty helpful, and surprising.

    Can I ask, what kind of doctor is doing the testing, and what is the exact protocol of the testing. 99% of this stuff is woo. It's not controversial if it's not actually medically and scientifically valid.
  • shaumom
    shaumom Posts: 1,003 Member
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    I myself had a blood test done that measured IgE and IgG levels for a large variety of foods, when I was being tested. I know some doctors consider the higher IgG levels to be indicative of a potential intolerance, although from what I've read, that is seeming less and less likely the more research is done.

    I did find the test showing IgE levels useful, though, and for me, many of the foods with high IgG, DID turn out to be problems.

    However, it was not nearly as useful as a simple, but intense, elimination diet combined with a food journal, honestly. Dropping the 8 most common allergens (wheat - or gluten in my case, as I'm a celiac, dairy, soy, eggs, fish, shellfish, peanuts, tree nuts) plus any artificial dyes, preservatives, additives, is what was done. And avoiding it to allergic levels, so no ingredients derived from these allergens, nothing.

    It basically meant that I made everything from scratch, from very basic ingredients. And I learned along the way to make sure my ingredients WERE the most basic...and to try not to use an ingredient in every meal, just in case. And it was less than a week before some correlations were being made between how the body felt and what foods were eaten.

    Every single food that was 'bad' on the allergy/intolerance test showed up correlating on the food journal, too (and as I started the food journal after the test but two weeks BEFORE I got the results, I figured that was pretty good news). But I also found a number of other foods that were problematic too, and had not shown up on the test, but that have consistently proven to cause me problems when I accidentally get them these days.

    The one thing I'd say about doing a really intense elimination diet is to try and never have one ingredient that you eat every single meal, and on top of that, no set of ingredients that would be present in every single meal if they come from the same company.

    I thought I was reacting to oil in general at one point, but it turned out I was reacting to an allergen that was contaminating all the oils I tried, because they were all from the same company and made on the same equipment lines.

    And I thought for a while that I was just reacting to what seemed like everything. Then one day when I was sick, I ran out of salt for a couple days and was too sick to go get new salt. And suddenly I am feeling SO much better, and feeling sick again when I added salt back in. Turns out I react to corn, which is present in all iodized salt as a stabilizer. As I added at least a little salt to every meal, I would have never known it was an issue, you know?

    Now, if I ever have to do elimination diets again, I try to make sure and have every ingredient missing from at least one or two meals a day, so that there is a gap in 'bad' feelings that is more trackable. :-)



    I should probably add, for honesty's sake, that my case might be unique on how useful an elimination diet is. I have a disorder that causes me to react to a LOT of things, but in ways that aren't really trackable unless I had a barrage of tests done after every item of food I ate. So the elimination diet has allowed me to determine what I react to in a more workable way. I don't know if it would find so many problem foods that the test did not, otherwise.
  • danielle0400
    danielle0400 Posts: 47 Member
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    MissusMoon wrote: »
    danielle0400 wrote: »
    Hey there! Just curious to who has had the test done? What did your results reveal and how did you change your lifestyle after? I realize it's a controversial test, I had it done. Which was pretty helpful, and surprising.

    Can I ask, what kind of doctor is doing the testing, and what is the exact protocol of the testing. 99% of this stuff is woo. It's not controversial if it's not actually medically and scientifically valid.

    A DO preferred the work, inconjuction with a lab in Seattle... another md also recommended i do it.

  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
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    I was going to get one done but they made me do an elimination diet first (6 weeks total) and i was shocked to find out it was dairy for me.

    Literally within 20 minutes of re-introducing it my stomach was rumbling. For some reason when i had eaten it my whole life i never experienced these side effects (although i did have bloating, constipation and heartburn along with some skin eczema) so i was really surprised.

    I would like to get a test done in the future though, i'm curious if anything else could be going on as well. :)
  • Skyblueyellow
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    I didn't know there was such a test. I know what I'm intolerant to based upon bad reactions in my gut. Mushrooms (which I was fine with until my first pregnancy and now I get severe GI pain and other ick with them) and an ingredient that is used in some dairy products (like cheese curls or anything with "powdered" cheese, probably best to stay away from that anyhow, lol). I also have IBS-D but it is pretty easy to tell the things that trigger that from the intolerance issue because of the GI pain. IBS-D doesn't cause me any pain, but intolerance most certainly does!!!
  • sarah12277
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    I had the ALCAT test done last year as I knew it was more intolerances than allergies for me, based on my reaction. Some of it was confirmed for me what I already deducted - tomatoes, soy. Some were things I would not have identified myself - clove, casein (I knew some milk products were iffy but didn't know why). I do think that it does pick up things that may not really be an issue; or at least for me I don't have the reaction I'm watching for many things on the list. I will stay away from those most days but might have something once a month if I really did want something. Most of mine were things I only added for a healthier diet so I was able to easily remove. Some things are near impossible for me so I base it on my reaction in how much I need to stay away. Very expensive test but for me since I can now identify what sends me into an itchy mess it was very helpful to have confirm. I did not do the additional additive test; but all of the food ones. I've been able to test out the additives myself as it's a much smaller list.
  • crzycatlady1
    crzycatlady1 Posts: 1,930 Member
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    danielle0400 wrote: »
    MissusMoon wrote: »
    danielle0400 wrote: »
    Hey there! Just curious to who has had the test done? What did your results reveal and how did you change your lifestyle after? I realize it's a controversial test, I had it done. Which was pretty helpful, and surprising.

    Can I ask, what kind of doctor is doing the testing, and what is the exact protocol of the testing. 99% of this stuff is woo. It's not controversial if it's not actually medically and scientifically valid.

    A DO preferred the work, inconjuction with a lab in Seattle... another md also recommended i do it.

    Not an allergist? My daughter had the 'scratch' test done through an allergist because we suspected a dairy allergy. We found out she's lactose intolerant and following the allergist's recommendations she's had no issues since then. My sister-in-law also had the scratch test done (allergist) and it picked up several full blown allergies, as well as things she's sensitive to, but can tolerate in certain circumstances (for instance-she cannot eat cooked eggs, but she can tolerate them in baked goods). If you haven't had the scratch test done yet I'd highly recommend it!
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
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    crzycatlady1 wrote: »
    danielle0400 wrote: »
    MissusMoon wrote: »
    danielle0400 wrote: »
    Hey there! Just curious to who has had the test done? What did your results reveal and how did you change your lifestyle after? I realize it's a controversial test, I had it done. Which was pretty helpful, and surprising.

    Can I ask, what kind of doctor is doing the testing, and what is the exact protocol of the testing. 99% of this stuff is woo. It's not controversial if it's not actually medically and scientifically valid.

    A DO preferred the work, inconjuction with a lab in Seattle... another md also recommended i do it.

    Not an allergist? My daughter had the 'scratch' test done through an allergist because we suspected a dairy allergy. We found out she's lactose intolerant and following the allergist's recommendations she's had no issues since then. My sister-in-law also had the scratch test done (allergist) and it picked up several full blown allergies, as well as things she's sensitive to, but can tolerate in certain circumstances (for instance-she cannot eat cooked eggs, but she can tolerate them in baked goods). If you haven't had the scratch test done yet I'd highly recommend it!

    I just want to point out that an allergy and an intolerance are not the same thing.

    http://www.webmd.com/allergies/foods-allergy-intolerance

    "
    The Alcat Test measures food/immune reactions through stimulation of leukocytes. The leukocytes, which comprise five classes of white blood cells (WBCs), including monocytes, lymphocytes, eosinophils, basophils and neutrophils (~ 70 - 80% of WBC's) can be challenged with individual food or chemical extracts. Immunologic defense reactions, e.g. of neutrophils, initiate an instrumental primary role in inflammation. While this is a very effective first-line defense strategy against acute infections, chronic activation of the immune system may lead to health disorders.

    The Alcat Test does not identify type 1 classical IgE mediated (anaphylaxis) allergies.

    The difference between the Alcat Test and IgG antibody testing: Food and Chemical sensitivities are mediated by multiple pathogenic mechanisms. By using the cellular approach, instead of a single antibody such as IgG, the Alcat Test can identify food and chemical sensitivities regardless of the pathway (immunologic, toxic, pharmacologic). The cells release free radicals and inflammatory mediators without antibody involvement.

    The majority of studies suggest that food specific IgG antibodies are protective and thereby not pathogenic."

    For example, someone could have no lactose or whey intolerance, yet they may have an allergy to dairy. Or they could have the ALCAT test done and show no reactivity while having a positive IgG response.

    If you have symptoms of ALLERGIES then yes a skin prick test can be helpful.
  • danielle0400
    danielle0400 Posts: 47 Member
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    crzycatlady1 wrote: »
    danielle0400 wrote: »
    MissusMoon wrote: »
    danielle0400 wrote: »
    Hey there! Just curious to who has had the test done? What did your results reveal and how did you change your lifestyle after? I realize it's a controversial test, I had it done. Which was pretty helpful, and surprising.

    Can I ask, what kind of doctor is doing the testing, and what is the exact protocol of the testing. 99% of this stuff is woo. It's not controversial if it's not actually medically and scientifically valid.

    A DO preferred the work, inconjuction with a lab in Seattle... another md also recommended i do it.

    Not an allergist? My daughter had the 'scratch' test done through an allergist because we suspected a dairy allergy. We found out she's lactose intolerant and following the allergist's recommendations she's had no issues since then. My sister-in-law also had the scratch test done (allergist) and it picked up several full blown allergies, as well as things she's sensitive to, but can tolerate in certain circumstances (for instance-she cannot eat cooked eggs, but she can tolerate them in baked goods). If you haven't had the scratch test done yet I'd highly recommend it!

    An allergist test for allergies, not so much the intolerances.. Which mine seem to be! I haven't had the scratch test done in a number of years, but it can be helpful too. The blood test finds more of the delayed reactions, such as mine when I would eat bread and become backed up. It's definitely a tricky science to figured out. I know that I feel better since nearly eliminated dairy. I haven't had heart burn in weeks (knock on wood!).
  • danielle0400
    danielle0400 Posts: 47 Member
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    rainbowbow wrote: »
    I was going to get one done but they made me do an elimination diet first (6 weeks total) and i was shocked to find out it was dairy for me.

    Literally within 20 minutes of re-introducing it my stomach was rumbling. For some reason when i had eaten it my whole life i never experienced these side effects (although i did have bloating, constipation and heartburn along with some skin eczema) so i was really surprised.

    I would like to get a test done in the future though, i'm curious if anything else could be going on as well. :)

    Dairy was my shocker too.. It wasn't just milk it was all dairy.. especially whey :neutral: Sadly, that was a good check of my calories (I'm not a big eater, so shakes and bars were a big go-to for me). I actually got my results right after being sick, so I was pretty empty on food, I did notice after eating a cobb salad last week, that the dairy definitely didn't sit well. Ugh!
  • MelanieCN77
    MelanieCN77 Posts: 4,047 Member
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    I had an allergy panel done earlier this year mostly because there was something environmental bothering me, but it did show minor reactions to wheat and sugar. I changed nothing about my diet because I ain't going there.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
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    danielle0400 wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    I was going to get one done but they made me do an elimination diet first (6 weeks total) and i was shocked to find out it was dairy for me.

    Literally within 20 minutes of re-introducing it my stomach was rumbling. For some reason when i had eaten it my whole life i never experienced these side effects (although i did have bloating, constipation and heartburn along with some skin eczema) so i was really surprised.

    I would like to get a test done in the future though, i'm curious if anything else could be going on as well. :)

    Dairy was my shocker too.. It wasn't just milk it was all dairy.. especially whey :neutral: Sadly, that was a good check of my calories (I'm not a big eater, so shakes and bars were a big go-to for me). I actually got my results right after being sick, so I was pretty empty on food, I did notice after eating a cobb salad last week, that the dairy definitely didn't sit well. Ugh!

    Yeah I'm a vegetarian and was relying on bars, shakes, Greek yogurt, and other dairy to reach my goal. :(
  • danielle0400
    danielle0400 Posts: 47 Member
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    rainbowbow wrote: »
    danielle0400 wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »

    Yeah I'm a vegetarian and was relying on bars, shakes, Greek yogurt, and other dairy to reach my goal. :(

    It's a huge change... I am in the process of looking for new sups and such...
  • danielle0400
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    MelanieCN77 wrote: »
    I had an allergy panel done earlier this year mostly because there was something environmental bothering me, but it did show minor reactions to wheat and sugar. I changed nothing about my diet because I ain't going there.

    I would of rather not went there... BUT, relying on citrecel to keep things moving (no matter how much fiber I ate) and zantac to keep the heartburn at a dull was not fun.
  • hfrise
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    Had issues with food about a year ago I thought it was milk or maybe all diary, I did a food diary for 1 month, it listed everything I ate, drank the times, how I felt & my symptoms I had. Slowly I started to see a trend forming. After the month I printed it out & highlighted the times I was sick with upset tummy. It was diary. I then decided to pay for an allergy test where they put a probe on one finger & then test you against different food types & mine listed diary mainly & also some nuts & wine. I gave up Dairy & wow do I feel good, such a difference. Food can play a huge part on your body & if you're not intune with your body or listen to what it's trying to tell you, you may suffer for ever. Sadly milk is in so many foods, I'm just glad I'm a good cook & cook from scratch so I know what's in my food. A good single cream substitute is Oatly Cream (made with porridge oats) it's in the UHT aisle. Loved this but lately my tummy can't tolerate oats so that's not an option anymore which I'm pretty sad about ☹️️
  • danielle0400
    danielle0400 Posts: 47 Member
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    hfrise wrote: »
    Had issues with food about a year ago I thought it was milk or maybe all diary, I did a food diary for 1 month, it listed everything I ate, drank the times, how I felt & my symptoms I had. Slowly I started to see a trend forming. After the month I printed it out & highlighted the times I was sick with upset tummy. It was diary. I then decided to pay for an allergy test where they put a probe on one finger & then test you against different food types & mine listed diary mainly & also some nuts & wine. I gave up Dairy & wow do I feel good, such a difference. Food can play a huge part on your body & if you're not intune with your body or listen to what it's trying to tell you, you may suffer for ever. Sadly milk is in so many foods, I'm just glad I'm a good cook & cook from scratch so I know what's in my food. A good single cream substitute is Oatly Cream (made with porridge oats) it's in the UHT aisle. Loved this but lately my tummy can't tolerate oats so that's not an option anymore which I'm pretty sad about ☹️️

    @hfrise I will have to try Oatly Cream... I sadly am not into cooking, by this is definitely giving me reason to be. Cutting all dairy and yeast, has been an interesting change. I agree food is a huge factor in how our bodies work. The rest was quite interesting, dairy was a main food source for me; I had been since right after I got the test done, so when I receieved the results I was able to cut out stuff fast. It was nice. I have been able to really notice how fast things bugs me now.

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